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Have never heard of this Japanese female player before:  Eka So.
Jennifer Wu is trailing 1-3.
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Jennifer Wu is gone.
Eka So has played a few ITTF's World Tours, but no notable records.


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Did Tao Wenzhang not play in the round of 16? I don't believe they streamed his game yesterday. 
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Originally posted by ForeverU850 ForeverU850 wrote:

Did Tao Wenzhang not play in the round of 16? I don't believe they streamed his game yesterday. 
 
Defaulted due to injury I believe.
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Originally posted by Vince64 Vince64 wrote:

Originally posted by ForeverU850 ForeverU850 wrote:

Did Tao Wenzhang not play in the round of 16? I don't believe they streamed his game yesterday. 
 
Defaulted due to injury I believe.

That's unfortunate. I know he was playing through injury at the Joola NA Team Championships. I just wish there would've been a way for Kaden Xu to take his place and play in the round of 16 :/ 
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Eugene Wang just put on an absolute clinic.
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Originally posted by FruitLoop FruitLoop wrote:

Eugene Wang just put on an absolute clinic.


That was about as comfortable as it gets.
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Semifinals:

11:15/12:00pm:
Eka So JPN vs Juan Liu USA
Lily Zhang USA vs Nina Mittelham GER

1:30/2:15pm:
Ryohei Kanoya JPN vs Takeshi Atsuya JPN
Eugene Wang CAN vs Tobias Hippler GER

Finals starting at 7:30pm. Champion wins $5000. Go USA and CAN!
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Originally posted by amateur amateur wrote:

Semifinals:

11:15/12:00pm:
Eka So JPN vs Juan Liu USA
Lily Zhang USA vs Nina Mittelham GER

1:30/2:15pm:
Ryohei Kanoya JPN vs Takeshi Atsuya JPN
Eugene Wang CAN vs Tobias Hippler GER

Finals starting at 7:30pm. Champion wins $5000. Go USA and CAN!
It should be noted that those times are for EST zone.
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Originally posted by Vince64 Vince64 wrote:

It should be noted that those times are for EST zone.

Of course, that's where the tournament takes place... For Tokyo time, add 14 hours. 
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Mostly empty seats as semis start
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Liu Juan's forehand is amazing; she just never misses. Now Lily Zhang can make this an all-US final - has that ever happened?
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Originally posted by amateur amateur wrote:

Liu Juan's forehand is amazing; she just never misses. Now Lily Zhang can make this an all-US final - has that ever happened?

According to a noted USATT historian friend of mine the 2011 US Open was all US women's finals.
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Lily ahead 2-1 in her semi, trailing 3-5 in the 4th, now 5-5. GO LILY!

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nina is giving up in the 5th game (lily up 3-1), lily's too strong, 6-1
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The call against Nina (at 2-3 in game 3) was for touching the table with her left hand while receiving serve. Hard to see in the video but quite possible. Lily did well to keep her focus.










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Originally posted by Vince64 Vince64 wrote:

Originally posted by amateur amateur wrote:

Liu Juan's forehand is amazing; she just never misses. Now Lily Zhang can make this an all-US final - has that ever happened?

According to a noted USATT historian friend of mine the 2011 US Open was all US women's finals.

Thanks, but this time we have 2 US citizens (not just residents).
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and both learned the game in the USA?

edit: apparently not:

"For New York's Liu Juan, a former Chinese National Team player with 9 years of Chinese Super League experience, this was her debut. In 2012 she had her tasted of US competition and took the crown at the US Open, now she had her chance to become National Champion."



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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

and both learned the game in the USA?

edit: apparently not

Let's not get too excited Wink
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I wonder what TBD will be rated. Lots of wins but lots of losses as well.

I considered running for USATT member at large but decided to remain a USATT large member.
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That men's final was awesome!
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Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

That men's final was awesome!
worth watching for sure
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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

and both learned the game in the USA?

edit: apparently not:

"For New York's Liu Juan, a former Chinese National Team player with 9 years of Chinese Super League experience, this was her debut. In 2012 she had her tasted of US competition and took the crown at the US Open, now she had her chance to become National Champion."


Hi,

Lily was tremendous in this match.  Liu Juan won 62 points; Lily won 58 points.  Lily demonstrated her champion's spirit and capabilities again.

Thanks,
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I can’t believe how Eugene Wang came back, not only that he was trailing, Kanoya seemed to be getting stronger. I didn’t even think Eugene can even keep it close in Game 5. Then Eugene got called for service fault, which I thought was game over for him, he got every excuses to pack it in. You can also see that he was bothered by the injured knee, and cannot cover the fh side well.

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Originally posted by mhnh007 mhnh007 wrote:

I can’t believe how Eugene Wang came back, not only that he was trailing, Kanoya seemed to be getting stronger. I didn’t even think Eugene can even keep it close in Game 5. Then Eugene got called for service fault, which I thought was game over for him, he got every excuses to pack it in. You can also see that he was bothered by the injured knee, and cannot cover the fh side well.

Incredible comeback. Wang blows 4 game points in the 3rd game, loses game 4 while seeming to slightly re-injure his knee, Kanoya is playing better and better as he starts to dominate backhand-backhand rallies, etc. It seemed like game 5 would just be a formality. And then, with his amazing touch and tactical discipline, Wang goes to the slow ball. Completely pulls the rug out from under Kanoya. Wins game 5. Wins game 6 11-1. Not until halfway through game 7 does Kanoya find the table again. I think Wang got a little impatient and couldn't help adding power back into his shots as he got close to the finish line. That gave life to Kanoya and a great match ended as it should have with a close game 7. 
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Eugene's touch is wonderful.
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I was looking at the ratings doubles results. The second round of RR matches was a default fest. In the 4 groups there were I think 34 teams that defaulted their matches. Some RR groups all the teams defaulted.
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Originally posted by Vince64 Vince64 wrote:

I was looking at the ratings doubles results. The second round of RR matches was a default fest. In the 4 groups there were I think 34 teams that defaulted their matches. Some RR groups all the teams defaulted.

I'd love to understand why so many defaults - usual explanation of "They don't want to risk their rating" does not apply here, since these matches do not count towards USATT rating. So what is it - conflict with travel plans, sudden onset of injuries, lack of interest in doubles to begin with (then why even have this event...)?

On the same subject - should there be so many events? Some had what, 3 entries? Just checked and O20 Women had 3 entries, two did not show up and winner (top seed) got it by default. Not a single match was played... You have Sandpaper and Liha (but no TTX!? LOL ) - why? 

Noticed that Rating Estimation has no results - was it even held? 
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Sandpaper, Liha and Hardbat were all hurt by being in their own track. You couldn't play O-40 and O-40 hardbat for instance, you had to commit to one or the other. I talked to Gordon about this, these events are just not popular enough to make their own track, you are excluded from playing similar "normal" events. Only a few crazies like me would commit to play hardbat and not much else.

Rating Estimation was held, but they only wanted results for the unrated players against rated ones. Two rated could play each other in the RR, but there was no place to record the scores.
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Originally posted by pgpg pgpg wrote:

Originally posted by Vince64 Vince64 wrote:

I was looking at the ratings doubles results. The second round of RR matches was a default fest. In the 4 groups there were I think 34 teams that defaulted their matches. Some RR groups all the teams defaulted.

I'd love to understand why so many defaults - usual explanation of "They don't want to risk their rating" does not apply here, since these matches do not count towards USATT rating. So what is it - conflict with travel plans, sudden onset of injuries, lack of interest in doubles to begin with (then why even have this event...)?

On the same subject - should there be so many events? Some had what, 3 entries? Just checked and O20 Women had 3 entries, two did not show up and winner (top seed) got it by default. Not a single match was played... You have Sandpaper and Liha (but no TTX!? LOL ) - why? 

Noticed that Rating Estimation has no results - was it even held? 
The doubles division rounds were played Saturday which would explain the abundance of defaults.
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Personally, I think the tournament should end when the Pro players Women's and Men's Singles Final ends.  The energy and excitement of both of those matches was fantastic.  The stands were filled with a nice, animated crowd.  And of course, the pros put on quite a show.  There are some ITTF tournaments where the audience seem to be non-existent.  Here's an ITTF tournament from a few years back with MA LONG and ZHANG JIKE, two absolute legends of table tennis, playing in the 2016 Kuwait Open where you could have heard a pin drop:


If these guys were in Orlando, Las Vegas, or where ever USATT chose, the place would have been rockin'.
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