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Was this kid's technique really wrong |
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pingpongpaddy
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The main thing to me is that Schlager's lesson helps to integrate the footwork with the shot being played.
in the old days a forehand was thought of as mainly an arm movement. Now we see a forehand starts with Transition and movement from the previous shot then execution, followed by recovery, flowing into transition for the next shot. It is very like dance choreography, with fhs from the bh corner being executed differently from fhs from fh corner. Some of the older style coaches dont get this at all |
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It is hard to say without seeing the kid play. We can't see if he has more severe weaknesses. I agree that moving is very important. It is clear the kid was doing better in the second video but he still wasn't moving like Schlager. Schlager can move where he wants in one step because he is bigger that's all. I know moving correctly is important. Moving wrong can result in a broken wrist :( |
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What is the point of playing safe shots when you can miss with style
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another coach basically saying the exact opposite to schlager (look at 1:37)
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collins.latag
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And the video's title is.... "Footworks for beginners"!
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And some said he was too small. :) it just takes practice... :P
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Puppy you are too much focussed on the words and the method of teaching. That coach is also trying to integrate the movement with the preparation of the stroke. That coach is doing very well with a large class, maybe exaggerating a few things to get the message across but essentially its the same kind of thing |
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Blocking has changed massively since it was first used in the 1960's and 70's to smother heavy slow topspin, although that old method can still be applied ( and still is by older players) its possible now to play a passive block against incoming topspin off the table far easier since the ball size increased. There is little stroke production and weight transfer, which is why blocking is 'easy' and when taken later, rather than contacted over the table the old way, less chance of over rating the amount of topspin and blocking in the net. Slightly off the table = more open bat and less risk. Club players often wrongly attack an opponents weaker wing with pace, allowing them to return the ball just by making contact, when a far better option is to play flatter and more passively to that wing and expose their lack of confidence in stroke production by making them have to play a positive stroke.
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I think I gave the answer above.
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LuckyLoop really this deserves a different topic but.. Its about risks and rewards Early Risks:- Greater difficulty, less time, no fallback options Early Rewards:- less time for opponent too, good control of angles Late Risks:- More running to cover angles, more time for opponent Late Rewards:- More Time to play and make big shots, more fallback options eg lob chop occasionally. |
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