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blahness 
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How do you know when a rubber needs to be replaced?
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I find it very difficult to tell when the rubber needs to be replaced. Because the rubber decline is slow, I adjust my strokes over a long period of time. When I do put a new sheet on, I'm surprised at how much more responsive the new rubber is. I now rotate between two paddles. One with new rubber and the other with older rubber. Then I can tell when it's time to change the old rubber.
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The best sign of the need of rubber replacement, in my opinion, is when I´m not able to put pressure on my practice partners anymore, doing the same things I´m used to do. I have a Goldarc 50° exactly in this situation, when new it was a deadly weapon but now it became a control rubber, much slower and much less spinny.
It usually happens after 5 months in my case (training 6 hours/week, plus tournaments once a month). After 3 months the topsheet becomes opaque (not shiny) despite cleaning it every session, but still usable. Actually when you play for a long time you can learn the lifetime of a rubber considering the amount of training you adopt. For me it´s 5 to 6 months, those who train more (or harder) maybe should expect something between 3 to 4 months.
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honestly I just replace after 4-5 month(don't play much a anymore)
But I always felt dragging a ball across the surface of the rubber is a good test
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When my loops and blocks go into the net more frequently than usual, it's time to change rubbers. For me, that's usually in the 4-6 month range.
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When the sponge loses too much tension or the topsheet loses too much grip. I reboost frequently and change after 4-5 months
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how do you know when the opponent rubber is dead?
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What? Why should I know that?
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Well it does affect how much spin is coming. I've played inverted so old I could put in what I wanted out like long pips
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For me the biggest indicator is whether the grip is still consistent over the surface. If it's become patchy, i.e. much grippier in some spots than others, then it's definitely going to lead to errors, so it should be replaced. Whereas if the loss of grip is consistent across the surface, then it's still usable, it will just be less spinny.
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Also, it is important to test rubbers with a new ball. An old slippery ball will have a large effect upon the perceived grip of the rubber.
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Don't they have top-sheet boosters & cleaners for this, so that you do not have to replace the whole rubber (that is, you are a half-ass honest saint but only half cheater because you are not a double cheat wherein you both boost & speed-glue)
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Too many obvious sock puppets on this site. Unfortunate.
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Each rubber behaves differently for each player. But as a general rule, forum wisdom states: If you are a top pro with a top contract, for any rubber: To maintain utmost rubber responsiveness, replace after each individual match. To maintain optimum rubber responsiveness, replace after maximum of 3 matches. For a journeyman pro: Replace after 3 matches. For a wealthy amateur, do as the top pro. For active (about 10hrs/week table time) amateurs, about every 4-6weeks. That is, with each paycheck. For the rest of us, replace when the urge to change is highest. |
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Definitely depends on the rubber though. Tenergy lasted me three months but Nexy Karis at least double that.
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Who or what are you referring to ? The dead rubbers or sock-puppets ?
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Are you talking to me ? Are you calling me a sock puppet ? I thought I raised a sincere issue about cleaning top sheets in a funny way. Obviously I rubbed some (illegal) speed glues the wrong way
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This is from TT Direct on their Rubber Information page.
Why change rubber?Rubber wears out because we use it! So the more you play the quicker it will wear out! As rubber ages, its ‘optimum’ playing characteristics deteriorate. Shocking Fact! Manufacturer’s estimate the ‘lifetime’ of a rubber to be 50 – 90 playing hours, but don’t panic! Most competitive players change their reverse or long pimple rubber within 12 months. Short pimples or anti spin rubbers last longer. However, the longer you leave it to replace your rubber you will feel a more obvious difference in speed and spin when using a new sheet. If you play a lot or participate at a fairly competitive level and want to maintain consistency of speed, spin and control, you should change the rubber when you feel a lack of response. ...are we talking about "sock puppets" now Edited by Charlie Brown - 09/23/2019 at 8:30pm |
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Rub the rubber to your hair. If you don't feel the friction, then so does the ball. However, dead rubbers are fun to play with, especially on bh side. I know some oldies could beat strong young players by dead rubber.
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There is no real "pro", "prov" or "NT" H3 in the market.
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okay since no one is going there..."what if you're bald now?"
 do you rub it down there? (applies to males only) 
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When you lose to somebody you don't think you should lose to, it's time to change the rubber. This is known as the Shibaev test.
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Because some cheat that way ,they hit with the slick rubber and the ball sinks to the net
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I did this as a kid... and I still do it now. It's good to know I am not alone
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+1 You clean, drag the ball, the ball should rotate but not slide. if the grip seems on a lower side, it's time to replace. For me, to replace a rubber 3 times a year is enough, sometimes I can do it twice, if my playing time tends to be on the lower side (like injury or smth..)
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Somewhere I read there is this rule that a lot of players follows.
If you play 2 times a week ---> you should change rubber 2 times in a year (or every 6 months) 3 times a week ---> 3 times a year (or every 4 months) 4 times a week ---> 4 times a year (every 3 months) This is all for optimal performace. And it only works if you are not constantly switching blades, boosting etc. Also a good indicator is when you notice your rubber spins less, has very worn edges, etc I found that if you don't boost Tenergy rubbers work just fine for me for 6months + If you play Long/Short pips (many ppl will say the older the better). |
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Excellent summary ........ Is that for each blade?If you play 2 times a week and change rubbers 4 times a year.....then you are now a qualified EJ
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OMG I have to change my rubber every day.
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