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ma long has a powerful fh..
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote big d Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/27/2009 at 12:07pm
ma long gas the best forehand hands down
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J-Pen players I think have to have strong Forehands as they have to compensate for their Backhands (however would kill to have RSM FH). Among the shake handers I think it would be a close tie between Ma Long and WLQ.
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Maybe, let's break it down to two categories - Penholders and Shakehanders.

I will agree with most of the people here - RSM (Penhold)
                                                                    WLQ(Shakehand)
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For power? WLQ probably.  Control... Don't know. Schlager or Waldner?
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for those who think Ma Long has the strongest fh, i have to disagree.  his fh is very effective and fast but it isnt powerful.  he plays a close to table attack game which borrows a lot of power from his opponents which make his fh look powerful.

iv also heard that the chinese coaches notice a flaw in Ma Long fh compared to the others in the team that he lacks the power the others have but he is trained to play so close to the table with relentless attack that it makes up for his lack of power.  i would even go as far as saying that Ma Long has one of the weakest fhs in the chinese team.

the fh of Wang Liqin and Chen Qi will outpower Ma Long's anyday, but Ma Long will out play them.
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In their prime, Ma Long will never have a chance against Wang Liqin. It just so happen that WLQ is old now, but he's still hanging there.
Wang Liqin is still the best player in the 40mm Era. No one can touch him with 50++ MOnths as No. 1 in the ITTF list. Wang Hao comes in 2nd with probably 30+ months now. Ma Lin is gone,  Boll is gone, Samsonov (pffft!). By now only Ma Long has the chance to break that, but he still has to unseat Wang Hao, and start counting . . . .
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You have to remember Ma Long won't be using speed glue whereas WLQ and RSM were using it during their prime.
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IMO    Wang Jian Jun one of the best I have seen, there is a recent posting about him I sugest you take a look.
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He, he . .
 
@ Fruit Loop - Why, You haven't seen RSM latest games without speed Glue? And with or without speed glue, WLQ will beat Ma Long's ass IN THEIR PRIME.
 
cHECK YOU DATA: WLQ has been in the No.1 list of the ITTF for more than 50 months. And Wang Hao is a far second (by now, about 30+ months). And Ma Long? Once he unseat Wang Hao, then we can start counting . . . But I doubt if he can beat WLQ's Legendary achievements. That's more tha 4 years' dominance!!!.  
 
 
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Ryu hits hard but it is understandable because jpens are extremely thick. i believe wang liqin has the most effective forehand. at his prime he is filled with confidence and power when the ball reaches his forehand. today's players no where close. ma long has a really weak forehand even when speed glue is taken into account
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i would think by judging the power of their loop against choppers, their power when looping at long distances...the true potential of their FH loop would show. I think Wang Hao and Xu Xin have the most power in their FHs currently. Wang Liqin and Ryu had the most powerful FH back in the glue days. The rest of the Chinese players have a lot of power in their 1st loopkill near the table, but they lose power significantly when they back off from the table in rallies.
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I would say Joo se Hyuk, because I'm in love with him ;)
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Penhold: Ma Lin
Shakehand: Wang Liqin
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I would say Wang Liqin’s forehand was spinnier than Ma Long’s. There was hardly any player, who could keep up forehand ralleys with Wang Liqin. But there are players, who can block Ma Long’s forehand. Remeber the noname japanese player, who won 3 : 0 against Ma Long just by blocking?

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I think Cantero is guy who killed almost all Timo Boll's opening loops at team championship this year.
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i think Zhang Jike said Ma Long likes to play off of his opponents spin... i actually think ZJ has a better forehand then Ma Long in terms of power...

I think RSM has amazing footwork and body mechanics as required by the J-Pen players... and thats where his power comes from...

i thing the most dominant Forehand has to go to WLQ.... simply amazing!!!
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I like Blahness' idea of judging the power of a loop by how it plays against choppers. Just watch the current top players loop at someone like Joo: their loops just don't stack up (especially Timo Bolls!) because the energy of the shot dissipates really quickly. This is perhaps partly due to the 40mm ball but it is mainly due to the fact that the modern game (understandably) favours economy over power. To see how real men forehand loop you got to go back aways to players like Jonyer and Klampar. Their loops hit the back white line with truckloads of spin and just kept going.   
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Penhold: Ma Lin, Ryu Seung Min
Shakehand: Wang Liqin
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Just before WLQ ceased at the tournaments, he was on an uprise again. He had wins over everyone recently, including Ma Long, Xu Xin, Zhang Jike, AND Wang Hao. You watch his FH off the table, and against Joo (after the glue ban) he's still more vicious and powerful than any other (chinese) player.
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Shakehand: Wang Liqin
Penhold: I would pick Guo Yuehua.  GYH at his prime + today's rubber would probably be > Ma Lin's FH.
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WLQ hands down. Anyone that has watched him play in his prime should agree with this.

So freaking powerful.
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