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    Posted: 09/03/2019 at 7:03pm
What's the percentage of women in the TT club you go to?
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Regularly in my club, not including a handful of little girls or myself (adult female), 2? LOLLOL
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10-15% on a regular night.
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10% at best
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09/04/2019 at 12:49am
10 to 15% at most.

Why do you ask?

At an other club I used to go to, it was closer to 50%. I no longer live in that city though. 

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1%, the club is a Chinese sausage fest

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0% at the moment. 
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If the way male members of table tennis forums speak about women is any indication of the way women are treated in clubs, then it's hardly surprising there's low participation rates, is it?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09/04/2019 at 2:37am
At my main club, if you just include adults, probably about 20%. If you include students, probably like 60%.

They also have an afternoon session which I've only been to twice in 5 years. I think then it's closer to 50%. That said, the afternoon session is mostly all seniors.
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Originally posted by mickd mickd wrote:

At my main club, if you just include adults, probably about 20%. If you include students, probably like 60%.

They also have an afternoon session which I've only been to twice in 5 years. I think then it's closer to 50%. That said, the afternoon session is mostly all seniors.

That's the healthiest proportion so far! I think your club (or Japan?) must be doing something right Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09/04/2019 at 3:29am
0% except a few under 10yo ones
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Originally posted by KiwiPong KiwiPong wrote:

Regularly in my club, not including a handful of little girls or myself (adult female), 2? LOLLOL

It really depends whats the total right? 2 out of 4 is a lot better than 2 out of 50 hahaha
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0% to 25% depending on the night.  Our best player is a woman which is probably uncommon
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09/04/2019 at 10:58am
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As you all must know by now, all female individuals do prefer those "trendy" sports to all the others.
Table tennis is a shabby thing in most woman's eyes (Europa and America for the most part). Sorry.

Japan land is the world's only nation to take table tennis as "trendy" sport, good enough for Japanese girls and adults to go in.   Japan is some countrywide Kingdom of Ping Pong, indeed.

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This is good start. Moving on, how can we increase the percentage of women (of course not decreasing the number of men, but increasing the number of womenWink) playing in our clubs?
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Many women played here in Moscow table tennis.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09/04/2019 at 11:49am
Women own the major clubs in my area. Maybe have "ladies night" events. Gao, Tawny, Grace, are you reading this? ...
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One way to increase participation is to increase prize money for women's events.  I occasionally travel around the country to help coach/warm-up a few of the women in the top 20 and they cannot even break even if they win the women's events.  A plane ticket is $200, the hotel is $300 and first place for the women's event is $300-$500.  If you factor in eating and other expenses, you will lose a little money at best.  If you finish second then you are really losing a lot of money.  Also if you consider the loss of income from coaching it makes no sense to play. 

Also club's having a ladies league or more women's events at tournaments could also be of benefit.  I don't think a normal lady would have too much fun playing a hyped out spastic junior screaming "CHO LE DUEY OOSA!" at the top of their lungs after every point. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09/04/2019 at 5:10pm
0-80% depending on the club/community center and time.

Originally posted by igorponger igorponger wrote:

KINGDOM OF PINGPANG
As you all must know by now, all female individuals do prefer those "trendy" sports to all the others.
Table tennis is a shabby thing in most woman's eyes (Europa and America for the most part). Sorry.

Japan land is the world's only nation to take table tennis as "trendy" sport, good enough for Japanese girls and adults to go in.   Japan is some countrywide Kingdom of Ping Pong, indeed.

igorponger, you nailed one aspect of it. Even Asian women I know, who are familiar with table tennis consider tennis to be glamorous, elegant, or of higher status. Even in Japan, (I don't know if this is still the case), table tennis was referred to as the dark or dismal sport, but they seem to be doing a remarkable marketing job lately.

The "promotion" of TTX, in the US makes table tennis look closer to beer pong than a sport worth pursuing when there's not a party going on.

Until TT follows some of the things pickleball or tennis orgs have done, participation from most demographics will continue to languish. (Boosting tournament participation is not the key.)






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There is only one older lady (very good player) who plays twice a week.  Then there is another beautiful lady who plays only once or twice a month.

That's it.
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As you all must know by now, all female individuals do prefer those "trendy" sports to all the others.
Table tennis is a shabby thing in most woman's eyes (Europa and America for the most part). Sorry."

Nothing to be sorry about. I think it's accurate. Just like decades ago gaming used to be seen as something only geeks participated in and all the gals simply scoffed at video games. Now its trendy so more women play.

Thing is I do not see things in terms of gender when it comes to tt. I see things in terms of player quality. I don't agree more women equals better. I think better players equals better.

I also think that women only tournaments is a terrible idea. That is discriminatory BY definition!!

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Wait, you guys have women at your clubs!? 
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Originally posted by obesechopper obesechopper wrote:

Wait, you guys have women at your clubs!? 

Hahaha do you belong to the 0% club? That's so unfortunate.... 
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Originally posted by obesechopper obesechopper wrote:

Wait, you guys have women at your clubs!? 

No women or kids.  Average age 60+.


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Hardly any but not zero.  I met my wife at a TT club!
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Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

Hardly any but not zero.  I met my wife at a TT club!

That's actually the story of the day! Who's the better player LOL 
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Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

Hardly any but not zero.  I met my wife at a TT club!

Wow, me too! Embarrassed
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Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

Originally posted by obesechopper obesechopper wrote:

Wait, you guys have women at your clubs!? 

Hahaha do you belong to the 0% club? That's so unfortunate.... 

0 consistent ones. Some pass through every once in a while with the same story... I used to play 30 years ago all the time!! Tben you hit with them, and their rating is probably 400 or less, lol
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Tassie52: >>If the way male members of table tennis forums speak about women is any indication of the way women are treated in clubs, then it's hardly surprising there's low participation rates, is it?<<

Originally posted by KleinesDickesAilton KleinesDickesAilton wrote:

This is good start. Moving on, how can we increase the percentage of women (of course not decreasing the number of men, but increasing the number of womenWink) playing in our clubs?

TT has been and remains a primarily male-dominant sport, which also unfortunately has resulted in a too-prevalent culture of misogynism; whether overt or subvert, it exists and until enough of the lonely men wise up with sincere positive attitude and behavioral changes, nothing will change. The ball is in your court, Guys.
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Originally posted by Alisha_Hooksit Alisha_Hooksit wrote:

TT has been and remains a primarily male-dominant sport.


But perhaps this is changing. I visit clubs in the south bay area of California--a table tennis hotspot--where kids are training hard with good coaches, and my impression is that about half of them are girls. And although skill levels vary, from informal observation, I not think the girls are generally any weaker than the boys.

These kids are the future of table tennis. So maybe things are changing.
 
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