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Men's Singles
2023 Week #12
RankNameAssocPoints
1FAN ZhendongCHN97001
2MA LongCHN58002
3WANG ChuqinCHN49553
4Tomokazu HARIMOTOJPN41954
5Hugo CALDERANOBRA38755
6Truls MOREGARDSWE36256
7LIANG JingkunCHN34107
8LIN Yun-JuTPE25558
9Dang QIUGER24009
10Dimitrij OVTCHAROVGER225510
11Darko JORGICSLO225011
12LIN GaoyuanCHN2130CHN5
13Quadri ARUNANGR200512
14Patrick FRANZISKAGER178013
15LIM JonghoonKOR167514
16Timo BOLLGER156515
17JANG WoojinKOR152516
18CHUANG Chih-YuanTPE149517
19LIN ShidongCHN1470CHN6
20Yukiya UDAJPN127518
21LEE SangsuKOR120519
22Kristian KARLSSONSWE119520
23Anton KALLBERGSWE117521
24Kanak JHAUSA1175Suspended
25Liam PITCHFORDENG113022
26Andrej GACINACRO104523
27Omar ASSAREGY104524
28Alexis LEBRUNFRA98325
29Hiroto SHINOZUKAJPN92626
30WONG Chun TingHKG90527
31XIANG PengCHN895CHN7
32Mattias FALCKSWE87528
33Simon GAUZYFRA87529
34Kirill GERASSIMENKOKAZ85030
35Marcos FREITASPOR835
36Benedikt DUDAGER825GER5
37Ruwen FILUSGER785GER6
38YUAN LicenCHN732CHN8
39Felix LEBRUNFRA710
40Shunsuke TOGAMIJPN645
41Yang WANGSVK615
42ZHOU QihaoCHN575CHN9
43Robert GARDOSAUT565
44Sathiyan GNANASEKARANIND565
45Jon PERSSONSWE550SWE5
46AN JaehyunKOR545
47Nicholas LUMAUS543
48Alvaro ROBLESESP530
49Joao GERALDOPOR525
50LIANG YanningCHN520CHN10


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Women's Singles
2023 Week #12
RankNameAssocPoints
1SUN YingshaCHN99201
2CHEN MengCHN68052
3WANG ManyuCHN59603
4WANG YidiCHN53754
5Mima ITOJPN29905
6Hina HAYATAJPN28306
7QIAN TianyiCHN2555CHN5
8CHEN XingtongCHN2395CHN6
9Ying HANGER20557
10ZHANG RuiCHN2025CHN7
11Kasumi ISHIKAWAJPN19758
12DOO Hoi KemHKG18709
13Sofia POLCANOVAAUT184510
14Xiaoxin YANGMON183511
15FAN SiqiCHN1635CHN8
16Adriana DIAZPUR162012
17Nina MITTELHAMGER156013
18Jia Nan YUANFRA140014
19Miyuu KIHARAJPN132515
20Miu HIRANOJPN1320JPN5
21CHENG I-ChingTPE129516
22Fu YUPOR124517
23LIU WeishanCHN1145CHN9
24JEON JiheeKOR113518
25SHIN YubinKOR105019
26CHEN Szu-YuTPE102520
27Dina MESHREFEGY100021
28KUAI ManCHN990CHN10
29Suthasini SAWETTABUTTHA98522
30Lily ZHANGUSA97023
31Bruna TAKAHASHIBRA96024
32Xiaona SHANGER93025
33Bernadette SZOCSROU91526
34Hana MATELOVACZE90027
35Manika BATRAIND86528
36Yangzi LIUAUS79429
37Miwa HARIMOTOJPN783JPN6
38Elizabeta SAMARAROU74530
39Xia Lian NILUX720
40Hana GODAEGY700
41Miyu NAGASAKIJPN695JPN7
42FENG TianweiSGP675
43Sabine WINTERGER660
44CHOI HyojooKOR610
45Minhyung JEEAUS608
46Margaryta PESOTSKAUKR605
47JOO CheonhuiKOR603
48SUH HyowonKOR600KOR5
49Mo ZHANGCAN585
50Jieni SHAOPOR580
Viscaria FL - 91g
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+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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Togami, Lin Shidong, QTY and CXT got the last spots....

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WC: LSD
WTT: Togami

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WC: CXT
WTT: QTY

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Withdrawal: Boll due to shoulder injury
Replacement: Freitas

4/6
Withdrawals: Ovtcharov, Gerassimenko
Replacements: Falck, Filus
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
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Filus got a spot?  No suspension or any disciplinary action for his racket throwing that almost hit a court side photographer?
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a lotta interesting matchups and potential upsets in the men's category.
Men's TT is where the fun's at!!
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Originally posted by kakapo kakapo wrote:

The draw has been made....Some nice matches:

Oh sweet, can't wait for Harimoto vs. LSD!  Alexis vs. Truls and Dima vs. Lim Jonghoon are gonna be really interesting as well.  Looking ahead, these first round matchups are actually better than the potential second round matchups.  I mean, the most interesting potential 2nd round matchups are I suppose LYJ vs. Lebrun/Moregard, or Dima/LJH vs. Calderano, or LJK vs. Jorgic?
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Originally posted by dingyibvs dingyibvs wrote:

Originally posted by kakapo kakapo wrote:

The draw has been made....Some nice matches:

Oh sweet, can't wait for Harimoto vs. LSD!  Alexis vs. Truls and Dima vs. Lim Jonghoon are gonna be really interesting as well.  Looking ahead, these first round matchups are actually better than the potential second round matchups.  I mean, the most interesting potential 2nd round matchups are I suppose LYJ vs. Lebrun/Moregard, or Dima/LJH vs. Calderano, or LJK vs. Jorgic?



Alexis vs. Truls played in Xinxiang just few days ago.
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Originally posted by troubadour troubadour wrote:

a lotta interesting matchups and potential upsets in the men's category.
Men's TT is where the fun's at!!

til hver deres

Tianyi vs Kihara is the match of the first round for me
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dingyibvs Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/16/2023 at 10:13am
Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

Originally posted by dingyibvs dingyibvs wrote:

Originally posted by kakapo kakapo wrote:

The draw has been made....Some nice matches:

Oh sweet, can't wait for Harimoto vs. LSD!  Alexis vs. Truls and Dima vs. Lim Jonghoon are gonna be really interesting as well.  Looking ahead, these first round matchups are actually better than the potential second round matchups.  I mean, the most interesting potential 2nd round matchups are I suppose LYJ vs. Lebrun/Moregard, or Dima/LJH vs. Calderano, or LJK vs. Jorgic?



Alexis vs. Truls played in Xinxiang just few days ago.

Yes, and Alexis scored the upset, which is what makes this rematch interesting.  Otherwise one may think Truls is the big favorite which is less interesting.
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Originally posted by BRS BRS wrote:

Originally posted by troubadour troubadour wrote:

a lotta interesting matchups and potential upsets in the men's category.
Men's TT is where the fun's at!!

til hver deres

Tianyi vs Kihara is the match of the first round for me
 It's a big challenge but kihara will value matches against the big 4 more, those are her potential opponents in the majors.
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Do you guys think jetlag is gonna affect the semifinalists and the finalists, especially those that did well in both Singapore and Xinxiang, A one day break may be hard on them.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tom Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/16/2023 at 12:28pm
Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

Originally posted by dingyibvs dingyibvs wrote:

Originally posted by kakapo kakapo wrote:

The draw has been made....Some nice matches:

Oh sweet, can't wait for Harimoto vs. LSD!  Alexis vs. Truls and Dima vs. Lim Jonghoon are gonna be really interesting as well.  Looking ahead, these first round matchups are actually better than the potential second round matchups.  I mean, the most interesting potential 2nd round matchups are I suppose LYJ vs. Lebrun/Moregard, or Dima/LJH vs. Calderano, or LJK vs. Jorgic?



Alexis vs. Truls played in Xinxiang just few days ago.
won't hurt to beat Truls again
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Originally posted by troubadour troubadour wrote:

Do you guys think jetlag is gonna affect the semifinalists and the finalists, especially those that did well in both Singapore and Xinxiang, A one day break may be hard on them.

Singapore, Xinxiang and Macao are all in the same time zone.
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What did I watch?







Hayata: Sorry, I'm not Ishikawa.









Edited by zeio - 04/17/2023 at 2:55am
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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The poor Lily met Han Ying last week: too spinny.
This week, she meets Hayata: too fast.
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QTY/CXT/Hayata: How did we lose?













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Ump: Yellow card for racket throwing in-between games.
Gauzy: LOL





Edited by zeio - 04/17/2023 at 4:01am
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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Politically incorrect comment. Mittelham = Brittleham.

Despite Ishikawa having a short fuse, Brittleham self-detonates before her.

Fans: Always rooting for you!





Disclaimer: I didn't vote.























Edited by zeio - 04/17/2023 at 4:55am
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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Why do I feel like Lily Zhang is overrated relative to her world ranking?  She did so poorly against a chopper in Han Ying and against Hayata.
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Originally posted by liulin04 liulin04 wrote:

Why do I feel like Lily Zhang is overrated relative to her world ranking?  She did so poorly against a chopper in Han Ying and against Hayata.

She is a very good player but she does not have "something" special which could bring her higher.
Services and returns of services: looks average for a top 100 pro
Tactics: looks average
spins: looks average
She can't win matches Vs defenders (and Han Ying is currently the best one)  and she can't follow the speed of most of the Asian players.
Also in such tournaments where you have the very best players, her results are normal (defeats) but the numbers are cruel (5 points a game).
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Originally posted by kakapo kakapo wrote:

Originally posted by liulin04 liulin04 wrote:

Why do I feel like Lily Zhang is overrated relative to her world ranking?  She did so poorly against a chopper in Han Ying and against Hayata.

She is a very good player but she does not have "something" special which could bring her higher.
Services and returns of services: looks average for a top 100 pro
Tactics: looks average
spins: looks average
She can't win matches Vs defenders (and Han Ying is currently the best one)  and she can't follow the speed of most of the Asian players.
Also in such tournaments where you have the very best players, her results are normal (defeats) but the numbers are cruel (5 points a game).

You hit the nail on the head!  Exactly, I too feel like she's lacking the "it" factor that would have elevated her status to an even higher level.  Her services lack variations, as they almost look exactly identical. Just a no-spin or light under spin.  Backhand is consistent in normal drives and opening loop, but they lack the power and speed for the killer shots. Tactics I too agree are beyond predictable.  Serve and open with a backhand loop that yields very little threat.  I think what she needs is strength training and film studies of other top players.  Analyze why they are able to win and try to replicate the same things.  
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How many first round exits has it been for Shinopi in 2023?


















Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
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From Ito's expression in the middle game of G1, she is in trouble.
That edge for Ito at 7:6 of G2 tipped the scale in her favor.



















Edited by zeio - 04/17/2023 at 8:20am
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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A. Lebrun vs Moregard
G1 47, 119
G3 41, 45 TO for Lebrun, 55, 77, 97, 98, 108, 1010, 1011, 1113
G5 31, 33, 43, 44, 45, 65 TO for Moregard, 67, 77, 78, 118













































Edited by zeio - 04/17/2023 at 9:06am
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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Moregard has gotta come up with a way to deal with the Lebrun brothers. Moregard has lost to A Lebrun 2 times in a week.

https://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=92138&PID=1130446&title=european-championships-2022-8-1321#1130446
Quote The Lebrun brothers have gotta come up with a way to deal with Kristian Karlsson, ideally before WTTC 2022 and hopefully by Paris 2024. F Lebrun has lost to him twice already, but took 1 game this time.


Edited by zeio - 04/17/2023 at 9:11am
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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Shinozuka is taking his time to acquaint himself with the fast moving big stage, I'm not sure he'll provide any big impact for Japan leading to Paris 2024, maybe in the next Olympic cycle he'll establish himself fully.
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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