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    Posted: 03/06/2023 at 6:14am
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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I really don"t like this format.
regarding ittf points, it increases the gap between the top 30 players and the other ones...
And even this, this is not exactly true since players like Chen Xingtong, Zhang Rui, Qian Tianyi, Miu Hirano.....may not participate....and no qualifications.
Those tournaments should be exhibition tournaments with...money but no points.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote zeio Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03/16/2023 at 10:09am
The biggest problem I have is the timing. Slipping in 2 WTT CS back-to-back right before the WTTC, where seeding plays a big factor?

Anyone can smell from a mile away that they want to downplay and sabotage the WTTC and Olympics as much/soon as possible.

https://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=92179&PID=1138212&title=wttc-finals-2022-chengdu-9-3010-9#1138212
Quote Table Tennis Report refrained from on-site coverage at the World Championships for the first time since its creation in 1957 (including the period after moving to the web publication in 2018). There were many reasons for the decision, but the absence on site left us great scars. In a similar manner there were many players who decided not to attend the event for several reasons. Among them, especially, the German Table Tennis Association made a radical decision to attend the event without the top three players, it made us want to ask the real truth behind such a decision.
I hope the World Team Championships held once every two years will remain the most prestigious event to decide the strongest team in the world. We watched some nail-biting fierce battles in Chengdu, some of which were fiercer than in the past. Therefore, we do not think the authority of the event was damaged even though some of the top players had cancelled their attendance. However, that does not sweep away the non-attendance of the players who should have been there. Such regulations should be reviewed if the lack of the points awarded to the singles ranking for the wins in the team event contributed to the decision of not attending the championships as Ms. Herweg mentioned.
Luckily, we can confirm the fact that Ms. Herweg, eventually the German Table Tennis Association, has the same thoughts.
The decision is up to the players eventually, but we sincerely hope the World Team Championships will remain the best stage for the players where they are honoured to perform.

(Article by Takahiro Sato)


Edited by zeio - 03/16/2023 at 10:10am
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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https://worldtabletennis.com/eventInfo?eventId=2593&selectedTab=Player%20List
WTT CS ESS 2022
MS
1/1 wildcard - Bence Majoros WR135
1/1 WTT nomination - Alexis Lebrun WR47
WS
1/1 wildcard - Georgina Pota WR57
1/1 WTT nomination - Chen Xingtong WR32

https://www.ittf.com/2022-ittf-table-tennis-world-ranking/
WK25 2022/6/21 was used for entry list per the handbook (4 weeks prior the event start). WK27 2022/7/5 was used for seeding, when WK28 2022/7/12 should've been used (even though no change). Regardless, next in line after the NER were Liu Weishan WR19, Fan Siqi WR21, Hirano WR27, Chen Xingtong WR31, Kuai Man WR33... For men, JWJ WR 37 and within NER had to pull out after testing positive. Next in line after NER were Filus WR29, Duda WR30, Yuan Licen WR33, Xiang Peng WR34...

https://worldtabletennis.com/eventInfo?eventId=2619&selectedTab=Player%20List
WTT CS Macao 2022
MS
1/1 wildcard - Lin Gaoyuan WR12
1/1 WTT nomination - Unused
WS
1/1 wildcard - Chen Xingtong WR13
1/1 WTT nomination - Unused

TTWR WK34 2022/8/23 was used for entry list, when WK38 2022/9/20 should've been used. WK39 2022/9/27 was used for seeding, when WK42 2022/10/18 should've been used (even though little change).

WTT CS Macao 2022 took place right after WTTC 2022, and Hayata withdrew due to upper arm injury during WTTC 2022, and several players that were qualified by WR and NER chose not to participate, and China's COVID-19 policy made it nigh-impossible to fly there on short notice so it was understandable.

Edited by zeio - 03/18/2023 at 2:50am
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g
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LSD and QTY each got one of the wildcards.


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MS
1/1 wildcard: Lin Shidong
1/1 WTT nomination: F. Lebrun
WS
1/1 wildcard: Chen Xingtong
1/1 WTT nomination: Samara

Edited by zeio - 03/22/2023 at 1:11pm
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g
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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

MS
1/1 wildcard: Lin Shidong
1/1 WTT nomination: F. Lebrun



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Entry lists

https://www.ittf.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/2023_11_SEN_MS.html
Men's Singles
2023 Week #11
RankNameAssocPoints
1FAN ZhendongCHN77251
2MA LongCHN44002
3WANG ChuqinCHN43453
4Tomokazu HARIMOTOJPN40554
5Hugo CALDERANOBRA35255
6LIANG JingkunCHN34106
7Truls MOREGARDSWE33457
8LIN Yun-JuTPE25558
9Dimitrij OVTCHAROVGER22559
10Darko JORGICSLO225010
11Dang QIUGER214011
12LIN GaoyuanCHN1880CHN5
13Patrick FRANZISKAGER178012
14Quadri ARUNANGR174513
15Timo BOLLGER156514
16LIM JonghoonKOR155515
17JANG WoojinKOR152516
18CHUANG Chih-YuanTPE149517
19LIN ShidongCHN1450CHN6WC
20Yukiya UDAJPN119518
21Kristian KARLSSONSWE119519
22Anton KALLBERGSWE117520
23Kanak JHAUSA1175Suspended
24Liam PITCHFORDENG113021
25Andrej GACINACRO104522
26LEE SangsuKOR104523
27Omar ASSAREGY104024
28Alexis LEBRUNFRA93825
29Hiroto SHINOZUKAJPN91226
30WONG Chun TingHKG90527
31XIANG PengCHN895CHN7
32Simon GAUZYFRA87528
33Kirill GERASSIMENKOKAZ85029
34Marcos FREITASPOR83530
35Benedikt DUDAGER825GER5
36Mattias FALCKSWE810
37Ruwen FILUSGER770GER6
38YUAN LicenCHN720CHN8
39Yang WANGSVK615
40ZHOU QihaoCHN575CHN9
41Sathiyan GNANASEKARANIND565
42Jon PERSSONSWE550SWE5
43Alvaro ROBLESESP530
44Nicholas LUMAUS523
45LIANG YanningCHN520CHN10
46Felix LEBRUNFRA515WTT
47Robert GARDOSAUT510
48Tomislav PUCARCRO500
49Shunsuke TOGAMIJPN495
50AN JaehyunKOR490


https://www.ittf.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/2023_11_SEN_WS.html
Women's Singles
2023 Week #11
RankNameAssocPoints
1SUN YingshaCHN82701
2CHEN MengCHN67402
3WANG YidiCHN53753
4WANG ManyuCHN52754
5Mima ITOJPN29905
6Hina HAYATAJPN28306
7CHEN XingtongCHN2255CHN5WC
8Kasumi ISHIKAWAJPN18907
9DOO Hoi KemHKG18708
10Ying HANGER17609
11Xiaoxin YANGMON159010
12FAN SiqiCHN1575CHN6
13Sofia POLCANOVAAUT155011
14Adriana DIAZPUR151512
15Nina MITTELHAMGER141513
16ZHANG RuiCHN1333CHN7
17Miyuu KIHARAJPN129014
18CHENG I-ChingTPE127515
19Jia Nan YUANFRA126016
20Fu YUPOR124517
21Miu HIRANOJPN1220JPN5
22QIAN TianyiCHN1210CHN8
23LIU WeishanCHN1145CHN9
24JEON JiheeKOR113518
25SHIN YubinKOR104519
26CHEN Szu-YuTPE102520
27KUAI ManCHN990CHN10
28Lily ZHANGUSA97021
29Bruna TAKAHASHIBRA96022
30Dina MESHREFEGY94023
31Xiaona SHANGER93024
32Bernadette SZOCSROU91525
33Hana MATELOVACZE89526
34Manika BATRAIND86527
35Suthasini SAWETTABUTTHA85528
36Yangzi LIUAUS78929
37Miwa HARIMOTOJPN783JPN6
38Xia Lian NILUX72030
39Hana GODAEGY695
40Miyu NAGASAKIJPN695JPN7
41FENG TianweiSGP675
42Elizabeta SAMARAROU615WTT
43CHOI HyojooKOR605
44Sabine WINTERGER595
45Minhyung JEEAUS592
46Margaryta PESOTSKAUKR590
47SUH HyowonKOR584
48Jieni SHAOPOR580
49Mo ZHANGCAN569
50HE ZhuojiaCHN568CHN11


Edited by zeio - 03/23/2023 at 3:17am
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote zeio Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/01/2023 at 1:49pm
WTT must be rather short on cash. I thought ball kids were volunteers.

https://www.douban.com/group/topic/285518880/
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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That's one way to beef up the price money.
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Duda takes injured Boll's place as 4th German allowed to play this event.

When I saw the list a few weeks ago, QTY got the wild card.....then they gave it to CXT.
QTY injured or they once again decided to play the dictator's game ?



Edited by kakapo - 04/04/2023 at 3:41am
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No change to the wildcards. Douban users have been keeping track.
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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Is Hirano playing? 
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Originally posted by KiwiPong KiwiPong wrote:

Is Hirano playing? 

No, she was (and she is still) not among the 4 high ranked Japanese
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Originally posted by kakapo kakapo wrote:

Originally posted by KiwiPong KiwiPong wrote:

Is Hirano playing? 

No, she was (and she is still) not among the 4 high ranked Japanese

huh? i saw her name in zeio's entry list, alongside Miwa Harimoto and Miyuu Kihara too.
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Originally posted by kakapo kakapo wrote:

I really don"t like this format.
regarding ittf points, it increases the gap between the top 30 players and the other ones...
And even this, this is not exactly true since players like Chen Xingtong, Zhang Rui, Qian Tianyi, Miu Hirano.....may not participate....and no qualifications.
Those tournaments should be exhibition tournaments with...money but no points.

Completely agree. If you want to run big tournaments where you are picky about who can play, fine. But, these events should not go towards WR, especially since the new system makes WR more important than ever as WTT organises tournaments in a way that ignores national leagues and looks towards creating a tennis style system where the top players make good money from tour events whilst anyone outside the top 20 has to pay to play. 

Imagine being ranked 7th in Germany and harbouring some ambition to playing in big events and getting a WR that reflects your ability. Not possible, instead you find yourself ineligible for big events and ranked behind players worse than you that are fortunate enough to represent smaller countries.
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LSD and QTY each got one of the wildcards.

Edited by meetskorun - 04/10/2023 at 8:24am
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The poor Lily Z gets Han Ying...again .
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4/3
Withdrawal: Boll due to shoulder injury
Replacement: Duda
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
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Damn, so close by Dina. Almost beat WMY
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WMY was playing exactly the way Meshref liked.....
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Hayata: How did I lose last year?


Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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That yellow card for CIC at 8:8 in G3 helped her instead and changed the course of the match.


Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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CCY forfeits after 2 games.

Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
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Perhaps a spot for Felix Lebrun in Macao ?
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Shan is a long pimple killer.
I watched her play several champion's league matches Vs opponents who used LP...She rolled over them.
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I would give Lily 5 % chances to win it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote zeio Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/10/2023 at 3:19am
Nice of Bobrow to suggest the expedite rule as a potential way to beat choppers but there are examples that it actually helped them.

http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=91735&PID=1129232&title=european-summer-series-2022-7-1122#1129232
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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0% if Zhang An can't out-push HY.
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
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Is USATT so poor they can't hire a chopper for Zhang An?
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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