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LJK’s powerful backhand shots were pretty hard to return. Both HT and LSD returned to the net many times. 


LJK is probably the only one using hard 42 degree h3 on backhand 
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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

To put things into perspective. In Cantonese, 前提係要對面畀你爆先, literally "the premise is that the opponent LETS you BLAST first."

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All 4 rounds won in straight games.




https://www.worldtabletennis.com/eventInfo?subEvt=WDOUBLES&selectedTab=Draws&eventId=2696






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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

WYD: How did CIC reach the final?
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WYD: Unimpressed.
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WYD: Better luck at Singapore Smash 2023.
Why the hate for CIC?  No one's saying she's at the level of the top Chinese, or that she'll medal at the World Championships.  But she's obviously worked on her game to beat both Hayata and Hirano in the same tournament.  She's also has had recent wins over Kuai Man, Shin Yubin, and Doo Hoi Kem.  She deserves better than a ranking in the thirties.  She'll be ranked in the twenties after this tournament, but I think she can reach the teens.  
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You're asking the wrong person here.

https://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=92273&PID=1133969&title=wtt-champions-macao-2022-10-1923#1133969

Most of you aren't aware of this but CTTTA was in hot water over favoritism allegations just a month ago.

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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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Amazing dance from LSD against LJK. Experience and a cool head prevailed against the raw power and talent.

This is the best I have seen LJK play in WTT since 2020 olympic warm up.
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Originally posted by dingyibvs dingyibvs wrote:

LSD just played out of his mind against Felix, his play made the match look even more lopsided than the score indicated. It was truly an impressive, impressive display. Not sure if he can keep this up though.

When ML was a yungin he played similarly, attacked everything on both wings with ferocity. Only difference is that the played from further back as was the style of the game back then. He eventually realized that it wasn't consistent enough to be relied upon in thr biggest tournaments where he has to consecutively beat many top players trying their very best, and he developed a more well rounded, more consistent game and the rest is history. 

I never thought somebody could make felix look so powerless and amateurish.
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Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

She's also has had recent wins over Kuai Man, Shin Yubin, and Doo Hoi Kem.  She deserves better than a ranking in the thirties.  She'll be ranked in the twenties after this tournament, but I think she can reach the teens.

DHK won the last match with a golfer's elbow, ironically, at the Asian Cup 2022, which took place at the end of the year. This goes back to my previous post about CIC's poor luck. She loses more when it counts, just like Ishikawa who loses to FTW more in WS than WT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBmezRI5LKA


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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

She's also has had recent wins over Kuai Man, Shin Yubin, and Doo Hoi Kem.  She deserves better than a ranking in the thirties.  She'll be ranked in the twenties after this tournament, but I think she can reach the teens.

DHK won the last match with a golfer's elbow, ironically, at the Asian Cup 2022, which took place at the end of the year. This goes back to my previous post about CIC's poor luck. She loses more when it counts, just like Ishikawa who loses to FTW more in WS than WT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBmezRI5LKA


I'm referring to CIC's win over DHK at WTT Champions Macao in October 2022.  But I'm not even suggesting CIC is better than DHK or the others I mentioned.  My premise is that CIC is a better player than her current ranking would suggest.  The comeback is real, and I commend her for that.
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by matzreenzi matzreenzi wrote:

My patience for Fraser Riley was at the limit after watching LSD vs AL match particularly during third set at 2-0, 5-2 score. I knew LSD is in the form of his life but for him to brag about LSD is IMHO disrecpect to past greats of 13 years. What he said exactly?

"no way what is going on I've been watching tablet for 13 years this might be the best performance I've ever seen in terms of shot making on this consistent of basis that doesn't even make sense what I'm saying but never does this"

Where is "The Voice of Table Tennis" Adam Bobrow? If I'm not mistaken he was in US a couple of days ago.

The guy annoys me but he wasn't exaggerating.  He really wasn't exaggerating.  That was a display of power that I can't quite remember someone matching - the closest thing might be Wang Chuqin or Fan Zhendong in some matches, but what made this match worse was how it left Felix looking after every point.
LSD was in such a zone that there really wasn't anything anyone could have done about it.  Actually, Felix along with LSD, Miwa, and CIC are in my mind the standouts of the tournament.  Felix took out Lee Sangsu (WR#26), Jang Woojin (WR#18), and Truls Moregard (WR#5).  Maybe we've been spoiled by Tomo, LYJ, WCQ, LSD,  but I think that's an amazing run for a 16 year old.
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Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

She's also has had recent wins over Kuai Man, Shin Yubin, and Doo Hoi Kem.  She deserves better than a ranking in the thirties.  She'll be ranked in the twenties after this tournament, but I think she can reach the teens.

DHK won the last match with a golfer's elbow, ironically, at the Asian Cup 2022, which took place at the end of the year. This goes back to my previous post about CIC's poor luck. She loses more when it counts, just like Ishikawa who loses to FTW more in WS than WT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBmezRI5LKA


I'm referring to CIC's win over DHK at WTT Champions Macao in October 2022.  But I'm not even suggesting CIC is better than DHK or the others I mentioned.  My premise is that CIC is a better player than her current ranking would suggest.  The comeback is real, and I commend her for that.

Really no point to argue about this. There are many people that do not like Ma Long and think Ma Long does not play good. One simple truth is CIC is the vice-champion for this event. And beating Hayata and Hirano is not easy, especially Hirano, who played very well for the tournament.
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Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

I'm referring to CIC's win over DHK at WTT Champions Macao in October 2022.  But I'm not even suggesting CIC is better than DHK or the others I mentioned.  My premise is that CIC is a better player than her current ranking would suggest.  The comeback is real, and I commend her for that.

I get what you mean. Neither am I hating CIC here. See what I wrote about them during WTTC 2021. What I'm getting at is that it's easy to get carried away. The goals for the year are WTTC 2023 and ATTC 2023/Asian Games 2022, hence my previous post about some of them keeping something up their sleeves.

http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90856&PID=1120422&title=2021-wttc-houston-usa-nov-2329#1120422
Quote Similar to South Korea, Chinese Taipei has been all-or-nothing the last few years. CIC is their last hope. Chen Szu-yu performed to expectations. Cheng Hsien-tzu choked but really not much to expect over the years. At age 34, Liu Hsing-yin played well to level her R32 result at WTTC 2019. Li Yu-jhun reached her target on her first try. LYJ and CCY losing 3-4, again not bad per se, but people certainly had high expectations of them after Tokyo 2020 and ATTC 2021. CCY is said to have an injury relapse so another factor to consider. CCA played well at ATTC 2021 so first round exit here was unexpected. Liao Cheng-ting lost to Harimoto in R32 on his first try at WTTC 2017, so a first round exit with that score is a little perplexing. Feng Yi-hsin could become another LYJ but has to pay his tuition fee in his first WTTC.

Hong Kong is a pleasant surprise here. WCT is playing his best in recent times. Unlike JJH, DHK looks as solid as in Tokyo 2020, despite losing to Hayata 5 times in a week. After the Olympics, she spent like a month resting, attending local events, playing WTT and ATTC, with little time on systemic training. Lam Siu Hang, Ho Kwan Kit, Lee Ho Ching, Ng Wing Nam, and Zhu Chengzhu reached their target performance. Last but not least, Soo Wai Yam forgot to dye her hair pink.



Edited by zeio - 03/07/2023 at 1:43am
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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Originally posted by matzreenzi matzreenzi wrote:

My patience for Fraser Riley was at the limit after watching LSD vs AL match particularly during third set at 2-0, 5-2 score. I knew LSD is in the form of his life but for him to brag about LSD is IMHO disrecpect to past greats of 13 years. What he said exactly?

"no way what is going on I've been watching tablet for 13 years this might be the best performance I've ever seen in terms of shot making on this consistent of basis that doesn't even make sense what I'm saying but never does this"

Where is "The Voice of Table Tennis" Adam Bobrow? If I'm not mistaken he was in US a couple of days ago.
yeah that commentator was really annoying.   Good help is hard to find, especially by WTT.  Whatever he said could have easily been misinterpreted .  I enjoyed watching LSD in this tournament but obviously either his performance here is not representative of his normal level or something is still lacking in his game.  One could have easily took what he said and think he meant the greatest ever ( period) in his 13 years of watching TT.
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The commentary was hilarious. At one point two of them got into a disagreement about if you can put a chip in the bat to record feedback and give the coaches a new tool. the they disagreed if this would make the sport lack humanity. like a full 2 mins or so of no commentary, and this was in the middle of a set.

Another brilliant stand out was "They are not machines they are humans, and another amazing (cant mremeber this bit) by the chinese machines"
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Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by matzreenzi matzreenzi wrote:

My patience for Fraser Riley was at the limit after watching LSD vs AL match particularly during third set at 2-0, 5-2 score. I knew LSD is in the form of his life but for him to brag about LSD is IMHO disrecpect to past greats of 13 years. What he said exactly?

"no way what is going on I've been watching tablet for 13 years this might be the best performance I've ever seen in terms of shot making on this consistent of basis that doesn't even make sense what I'm saying but never does this"

Where is "The Voice of Table Tennis" Adam Bobrow? If I'm not mistaken he was in US a couple of days ago.

The guy annoys me but he wasn't exaggerating.  He really wasn't exaggerating.  That was a display of power that I can't quite remember someone matching - the closest thing might be Wang Chuqin or Fan Zhendong in some matches, but what made this match worse was how it left Felix looking after every point.
LSD was in such a zone that there really wasn't anything anyone could have done about it.  Actually, Felix along with LSD, Miwa, and CIC are in my mind the standouts of the tournament.  Felix took out Lee Sangsu (WR#26), Jang Woojin (WR#18), and Truls Moregard (WR#5).  Maybe we've been spoiled by Tomo, LYJ, WCQ, LSD,  but I think that's an amazing run for a 16 year old.

I would add CDS to this list.  
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It does make one wonder since when has defeating FZD been reduced to a simple feat? I guess folks really go by impression instead of stats. Look up FZD's and LSD stats, for once.

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Edited by zeio - 03/05/2023 at 2:56pm
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by matzreenzi matzreenzi wrote:

My patience for Fraser Riley was at the limit after watching LSD vs AL match particularly during third set at 2-0, 5-2 score. I knew LSD is in the form of his life but for him to brag about LSD is IMHO disrecpect to past greats of 13 years. What he said exactly?

"no way what is going on I've been watching tablet for 13 years this might be the best performance I've ever seen in terms of shot making on this consistent of basis that doesn't even make sense what I'm saying but never does this"

Where is "The Voice of Table Tennis" Adam Bobrow? If I'm not mistaken he was in US a couple of days ago.

The guy annoys me but he wasn't exaggerating.  He really wasn't exaggerating.  That was a display of power that I can't quite remember someone matching - the closest thing might be Wang Chuqin or Fan Zhendong in some matches, but what made this match worse was how it left Felix looking after every point.
LSD was in such a zone that there really wasn't anything anyone could have done about it.  Actually, Felix along with LSD, Miwa, and CIC are in my mind the standouts of the tournament.  Felix took out Lee Sangsu (WR#26), Jang Woojin (WR#18), and Truls Moregard (WR#5).  Maybe we've been spoiled by Tomo, LYJ, WCQ, LSD,  but I think that's an amazing run for a 16 year old.

I would add CDS to this list.  
Ah yes... how could I forget FZD's ouster.  I'm sure FZD fans were disappointed, but it's probably a good thing he lost early.  It gives him time to rest after the Chinese WTTC trials and before the Singapore Smash where he can collect big ranking points and money.  
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Originally posted by passifid passifid wrote:

Amazing dance from LSD against LJK. Experience and a cool head prevailed against the raw power and talent.

This is the best I have seen LJK play in WTT since 2020 olympic warm up.

Yep - he no longer is playing bang bang bang table tennis but gave huge amounts of spin, trajectory, pace and placement variation now, which I think all the hot headed youngsters like LSD and Harimoto dislike very much....

Btw, LOL at Lin Shidong's abbreviation LSD hahahaha 


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I am sorry for not following this topic thoroughly, but are there any reasons why Ma Long did not participate in this event?

It is similar to the last World Championship where FZD won the title in the absence of Ma Long.   Only this time FZD failed to do so.


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Originally posted by doraemon doraemon wrote:

I am sorry for not following this topic thoroughly, but are there any reasons why Ma Long did not participate in this event?

It is similar to the last World Championship where FZD won the title in the absence of Ma Long.   Only this time FZD failed to do so.
Ma Long and some of his compatriots withdrew due to Covid and injuries after the Chinese WTTC Trials:

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Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

Originally posted by doraemon doraemon wrote:

I am sorry for not following this topic thoroughly, but are there any reasons why Ma Long did not participate in this event?

It is similar to the last World Championship where FZD won the title in the absence of Ma Long.   Only this time FZD failed to do so.
Ma Long and some of his compatriots withdrew due to Covid and injuries after the Chinese WTTC Trials:


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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

I'm referring to CIC's win over DHK at WTT Champions Macao in October 2022.  But I'm not even suggesting CIC is better than DHK or the others I mentioned.  My premise is that CIC is a better player than her current ranking would suggest.  The comeback is real, and I commend her for that.

I get what you mean. Neither am I hating CIC here. See what I wrote about them during WTTC 2021. What I'm getting at is that it's easy to get carried away. The goals for the year are WTTC 2023 and ATTC 2023, hence my previous post about some of them keeping something up their sleeves.

http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90856&PID=1120422&title=2021-wttc-houston-usa-nov-2329#1120422
Quote Similar to South Korea, Chinese Taipei has been all-or-nothing the last few years. CIC is their last hope. Chen Szu-yu performed to expectations. Cheng Hsien-tzu choked but really not much to expect over the years. At age 34, Liu Hsing-yin played well to level her R32 result at WTTC 2019. Li Yu-jhun reached her target on her first try. LYJ and CCY losing 3-4, again not bad per se, but people certainly had high expectations of them after Tokyo 2020 and ATTC 2021. CCY is said to have an injury relapse so another factor to consider. CCA played well at ATTC 2021 so first round exit here was unexpected. Liao Cheng-ting lost to Harimoto in R32 on his first try at WTTC 2017, so a first round exit with that score is a little perplexing. Feng Yi-hsin could become another LYJ but has to pay his tuition fee in his first WTTC.

Hong Kong is a pleasant surprise here. WCT is playing his best in recent times. Unlike JJH, DHK looks as solid as in Tokyo 2020, despite losing to Hayata 5 times in a week. After the Olympics, she spent like a month resting, attending local events, playing WTT and ATTC, with little time on systemic training. Lam Siu Hang, Ho Kwan Kit, Lee Ho Ching, Ng Wing Nam, and Zhu Chengzhu reached their target performance. Last but not least, Soo Wai Yam forgot to dye her hair pink.

I wouldn't characterize being happy for someone who is coming back into her previous form as getting carried away.  I also don't think it's necessary to confine your goals to the WTTC or ATTC.  Only a very select few are going to medal there.  You can have mini victories along the way.. the journey being as important if not more important than the destination.  In any case, this was a great tournament for her making the finals.
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Always keep the following in mind. This is a competitive sport. When you under-perform for over a year while being exempt from national team selection merely because you're still one of the 2 highest ranked players, you're taking up a precious spot that could've been better used by others.

Would you say the same thing about Ishikawa now that Harimoto's progress is getting impeded?

Edited by zeio - 03/06/2023 at 11:39am
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+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

2023 win rate, ~66.7%



Always keep the following in mind. This is a competitive sport. When you under-perform for over a year while being exempt from national team selection merely because you're still one of the 2 highest ranked players, you're taking up a precious spot that could've been better used by others.

Would you say the same thing about Ishikawa now that Harimoto's progress is getting impeded?
I can't blame Ishikawa for Harimoto not being in the Singapore Smash.  I put the blame on the WTT for the silly NER for their top tier tournament.  Ishikawa is on her last legs as a pro internationally.  She won't be at the World Championships so she won't get any Paris points from that.  Miwa, unfortunately, did not progress fast enough to make the cut-off for the World Championships.  Rightly or wrongly, the JTTA has decided on the selection system and everyone has to abide by it.  Although highly unlikely, Miwa technically has a chance to make Paris if she can play a level above all of the other women in Japan for all of the Paris tournaments.  I'm not going to count her out until it's mathematically impossible for her to make it.

[Edit] Looking at who she won/lost to, would any of CIC's teammates have done any better than she did?


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Seriously, if Miwa Harimoto does not complain, why should you?
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Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

Seriously, if Miwa Harimoto does not complain, why should you?

Look yourself in the mirror first.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote zeio Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03/06/2023 at 1:59pm
Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

[Edit] Looking at who she won/lost to, would any of CIC's teammates have done any better than she did?

The more proper question would be "would CIC have done any better than CSY did if CIC faced the same opponents over the past few months, say, Nagasaki, Batra and Harimoto?"
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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Why not?  Hayata and Hirano are now chopped liver? She also had a minimum margin loss to Ito and beat Kuai Man 3‐0.

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Yeah, until that happens. It's convenient to forget their last proper encounter in 8/2022 just like her last loss against DHK in 11/2022.

She had to withdraw from Asian Continental Stage.


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Edited by zeio - 03/07/2023 at 12:33am
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
= 184.8g
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