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WTTC Finals 2023, Durban, 5/20-28 |
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 10424 |
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https://www.ittf.com/tournament/5457/2023-ittf-world-championships-finals/
https://worldtabletennis.com/eventInfo?selectedTab=Overview&eventId=2660 Edited by zeio - 08/26/2023 at 6:10am |
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Viscaria FL - 91g
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 10424 |
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Boll withdraws due to playing shoulder injury. Replaced by Filus.
https://www.tischtennis.de/news/default-917c005b91.html https://www.tischtennis.de/news/wm-medientag-dttb-team-reist-optimistisch-nach-suedafrika.html |
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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stiltt ![]() Assistant Admin ![]() ![]() Joined: 07/15/2007 Location: Location Status: Offline Points: 727 |
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One more chopper, good for the show!
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KiwiPong ![]() Super Member ![]() Joined: 08/08/2012 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 277 |
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Hope he doesn’t throw his paddle at anyone this time
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 10424 |
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Draw ceremony at 1300 local time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp_PKFLR56s WS ![]() MS ![]() Edited by zeio - 05/18/2023 at 7:43am |
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pongfugrasshopper ![]() Premier Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 03/22/2015 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 3471 |
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Awful draw for the Japanese women. Hayata/Nagasaki in 1st round. Miu Hirano in same quarter as them. Ito/Kihara also in the same quarter.
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troubadour ![]() Silver Member ![]() Joined: 08/14/2018 Location: Ryazan Status: Offline Points: 505 |
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The men's draw promises of exciting match-ups and potential upsets in all quarters; especially in LJK and ML's quarter. It's gonna be very interesting.
Japan got the worst draw possible in the women singles, but who knows; maybe it's the start of one of them going on a glorious run, after all in the crucible is where diamonds are formed. Looking forward to the mixed doubles and the men's doubles draws, there may be some surprises in the latter stages. Korea and Sweden are dark horses. Japan will show up as usual Japan is the only team that can stop China in the Women's doubles, not sure if they can stop two pairs though. Edited by troubadour - 05/18/2023 at 12:36pm |
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BRS ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: 05/08/2013 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1550 |
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Choi Hyojoo could get another chance at CXT in the R32.
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troubadour ![]() Silver Member ![]() Joined: 08/14/2018 Location: Ryazan Status: Offline Points: 505 |
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When is Joo CheonHee gonna be eligible to represent Korea??
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How many eyes have seen their dreams
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Tommy16 ![]() Silver Member ![]() Joined: 01/13/2009 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 744 |
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No worries since this is not a full draw, just seeded players. Edited by Tommy16 - 05/18/2023 at 1:34pm |
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What is the point of playing safe shots when you can miss with style
My feedback: http://www.mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=67171&KW=&PID=811763&title=tommy16-feedback#811763 |
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kaitenNashi ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 07/18/2022 Location: Singapore Status: Offline Points: 83 |
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Considering how 'good' the JPN girls form has been it's probably a good thing that they're meeting earlier.
Kihara probably stands no chance against CM and will likely finish at R16 if she doesn't stumble earlier. I think Ito has a better chance against CM than she does against SYS and WMY so this is arguably the 2nd best draw she could have hoped for. But that's assuming she makes it past Suthasini + Batra/Diaz, all of whom are no pushovers. IMO Ito is the most volatile of the lot and could finish anywhere between quarters/R16/R32. Hirano has been in relatively stable form so I'd expect her to make it past Jeon Jihee, although and upset is entirely possible. Then at R16 she'll have another crack at WYD. Even if she makes it past that she'll have to contend with Hayata whom she has been losing to pretty consistently. Most likely another R16 finish for her. Don't really expect Nagasaki to beat Hayata and Doo Hoi Kem at R16 is a tough but beatable opponent. Most likely R32 for Nagasaki and another quarters finish for Hayata unless she can finally break her chinese losing streak. Overall Hirano/Hayata have the best chance of medaling if they play their cards right. Ito finishing at her allotted seeding will be a small miracle at this point. She'll need an even bigger one to overcome CM.
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stiltt ![]() Assistant Admin ![]() ![]() Joined: 07/15/2007 Location: Location Status: Offline Points: 727 |
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Looks like Alexis will have to go throuh Darko, Jikun, Tomokazu and Felix to get to the final while Felix will need to win Dang, Zhengdong, Truls and Alexis
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pongfugrasshopper ![]() Premier Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 03/22/2015 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 3471 |
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This is a decent draw for Mima Ito to get back into the Paris 2024 race. She's favored to make a QF and could possibly even make a SF. I kind of feel that if Hirano were to pull off another upset and beat WYD again, then that would normally be enough to win the quarter, but in this case she would possibly have to face Hayata. And the crazy thing is that even if she beat WYD, she wouldn't get Paris points for beating a top 3 CNT player because WYD is WR#4. Aside from Nagasaki, Hirano has the toughest road. I was looking for Szocs to pull off another miracle, but it looks like even if that happened, it wouldn't help any of the Japanese women as they are in different quarters. In fact, poor Bernie is stuck in the quarter that has two CNT players.
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apacible ![]() Super Member ![]() Joined: 07/28/2019 Location: Singapore Status: Offline Points: 127 |
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I looked back at the draw at the 2021 WTTC, and the draw for the Japanese Women's in this year's WTTC nearly mirrors that of the 2021 WTTC. In both instances, 2 Japanese Women were in CM's quarter and 3 Japanese Women were in WYD's quarter. WYD's Quarter 2023 Nagasaki got Shibata's 2021 WTTC draw-> face a Japanese player in the R32 2023 Hirano got Hayata's 2021 WTTC draw-> face WYD in the R16 2023 Hayata got Ito's 2021 WTTC draw-> face a Japanese player in the R32 and WYD in the QF CM's Quarter 2023 Kihara got Hirano's 2021 WTTC draw-> face CM in the R16 2023 Ito got Ishikawa's 2021 WTTC draw-> face CM in the QF The Japanese Women can't really complain though since the Japanese Men have it much worse. 2 Japanese men are in LJK's quarter while 3 Japanese Men are in WCQ's sixteenth (R32)! Interestingly, in this year's WTTC, Togami and Ito also got the same opponents for their first matches as with the 2021 WTTC. Togami's first opponent is Tomas Polansky (CZE) again. Ito, on the other hand, got Zauresh Akasheva again (KAZ) (short pips BH) who happens to be Ito's fan. Maybe Ito will get some Kazakhstan chocolate after the match again. :))
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apacible ![]() Super Member ![]() Joined: 07/28/2019 Location: Singapore Status: Offline Points: 127 |
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Both Miyu Kato and Jin Ueda did an interview with BUTTERFLY Japan previewing the 2023 WTTC and its players from their perspectives as active professional players. Miyu Kato talked about Women's Singles and Doubles while Jin Ueda talked about Men's Singles, Men's Doubles, and Mixed Doubles.
Miyu Kato Part 1- Chinese Players: https://www.butterfly.co.jp/takurepo/tournament/detail/022452.html Miyu Kato Part 2- Japanese Players and others: https://www.butterfly.co.jp/takurepo/tournament/detail/022462.html Miyu Kato Part 3- Women's Doubles Preview: https://www.butterfly.co.jp/takurepo/tournament/detail/022482.html Jin Ueda Part 1- Chinese Players and other: https://www.butterfly.co.jp/takurepo/tournament/detail/022450.html Jin Ueda Part 2- Japanese Players: https://www.butterfly.co.jp/takurepo/tournament/detail/022456.html Jin Ueda Part 3- Men's Doubles: https://www.butterfly.co.jp/takurepo/tournament/detail/022463.html Jin Ueda Part 4- Mixed Doubles: https://www.butterfly.co.jp/takurepo/tournament/detail/022464.html Some Highlights: Kato She considers SYS, WMY, CM to be at a tier above that of WYD and CXT. She says that compared to the former 3 players, the latter 2 aren't as stable against defense and "special" playing styles. She feels CM stability in the power rallies is the best among Chinese players, so you can only defeat her by breaking through with serve and receive. (which Kato believes was the reason she was able to beat her in the 2019 T2 Diamond Malaysia) For Japanese players, she highlights Hirano's improvements especially in defense and thinks that she has been in good form lately. She still thinks that Ito poses the greatest challenge to Chinese players amongst the Japanese players selected for WTTC but is concerned about Ito's current condition. She also mentions Han Ying, CIC, Polcanova, Diaz, Sawettabut, Shin Yubin, Batra and Lily Zhang as players to watch out for. She also said Ni Xialian's playing style may be scary for other Asian Players, but not for Japanese players who are generally adept at playing against this style. For Women's Doubles, she says there seems to be a slight gap between China and Japan's doubles pairs when compared to the rest of the world. However, she highlights JJH/SYB as a strong and stable pair not from China or Japan. You can read the full articles at the links above to see Kato's full comments for each of the Chinese, Japanese, and Rest of the World players. Ueda He observes that WCQ seems strong against ML, ML seems strong against FZD, and FZD seems strong against WCQ, so he's interested how the draw plays out. He feels ML has proven his strength and mentality in the WTTC and Olympic stage, so he would like to see if FZD can cross the "ML wall" and beat him on a stage bigger than the World Tour. He mentions Moregard, the Lebrun brothers, LYJ, Jorgic, QD, Lim Jong-hoon, Calderano and Kallberg as players to watch out for. For Japanese players, he has a hunch that Harimoto will do well this WTTC. He also observes that Togami has difficulty against left-handers (Note: he could face WCQ in the R64). Interestingly, he feels that the contenders for the Men's doubles championship will likely be among the seeded players and believes that there will be less upsets in Men's Doubles than Men's Singles. For Mixed Doubles, he favors WCQ/SYS and Harimoto/Hayata to meet in the finals and calls them the two strongest pairs in the WTTC. He feels LSD/KM is the third strongest pair with a decent chance to make the final. He also mentions LJH/SYB and Uda/Kihara as the other noteworthy pairs. You can read the full articles at the links above to see Ueda's full comments for each of the Chinese, Japanese, and Rest of the World players.
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Just saw the USA Women's draws:
Lily Zhang vs. Linda Bergstrom (Sweden) Bad draw for Lily, not strong against chop. Amy Wang vs. Audrey Zarif (France) This could be interesting. Sarah Jalli vs. Hina Hayata (Japan) A bridge too far. |
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I don't really fancy Szocs chances at upsetting CXT again given China's history of hyper analyzing opponents who they've lost to. Szocs needs to get past an in-form CIC to reach CXT anyway and I don't think she's the favourite in that matchup.
Hirano has a tricky first-round opponent in Zeng Jian who just won the SEA games championships after beating Orawan and Suthasini who have been dominating the region in recent years. That same Orawan took two games off Ishikawa at the Olympics and will likely face Kihara in the second round. Suh Hyo Won has the potential to upset Doo Hoi Kem again in R32, but that's provided she makes it past Bruna Takahashi and Karoline Mischek/Solomiya Bratekyo. These days it feels like Suh could lose against anybody. It's already 2023 and no sign of Yui Hamamoto in Austrian colours anywhere. Did she change her nationality for nothing? Kinda tired of watching Amelie Solja being a sitting duck at the table.
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 10424 |
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Catching up. Still bothered by golfer's elbow, DHK will focus on the XD along with WCT, more so after the excellent XD draw.
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 10424 |
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Still haven't isolated the root cause of pain, LYJ has decided to withdraw from MD and focus on MS/XD. After being administered a PRP injection, he can swing at 60%-70% only on his FH as it still hurts when swinging at 100%.
CCY, bothered by chronic cervical herniated disc, has recovered 70% and will pair with the 18-year-old Kao Cheng-Jui instead in MD. https://sports.ltn.com.tw/news/breakingnews/4304543 https://tsna.com/article/72246 |
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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Polcanova knocked out by Dora Madarasz in round one after being up 3-1. Nearly came back from a 2-7 deficit in the decider but it was not enough.
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 10424 |
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First seeded player out. Polcanova 3-4 Madarasz.
Winter gonna reach the QF now? What a waste of the good draw. Lambiet 0-4 N Alamiyan Proof that the FH is redundant in the 21st century table tennis? AJH 1-4 Pistej That service fault at 8:7 of G3 turned it upside down. Second first round exit for AJH after WTTC 2021. This loss looks really ugly. Edited by zeio - 05/20/2023 at 5:37am |
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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kakapo ![]() Premier Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 02/24/2013 Location: Mordor Status: Offline Points: 3372 |
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Hot between Wang Yang and Gonzalez.
The last game was not hot :)) Not sure that Takahashi can play defenders...In the fist game, she played bad....not even bad, shuh Hyowoon didn't need to do anything. Edited by kakapo - 05/20/2023 at 6:04am |
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Def play grey grip 94gr, Venus 2 blue 2,2, Neubauer KO extreme 1,3mm
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 10424 |
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Omar Assar 1-3 -> 4-3 Alberto Mino
Edited by zeio - 05/20/2023 at 6:44am |
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Viscaria FL - 91g
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liulin04 ![]() Premier Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 10/20/2003 Location: US Status: Offline Points: 6300 |
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Omar with the nice 1-3 comeback, and looks like Lily is gonna lose to another chopper yet again
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lily is getting f**ked in the butt by Linda with her paddle. Poor girl needs to train exclusively with a chopper for the next few months.
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All 5 choppers will be in the second round.
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Def play grey grip 94gr, Venus 2 blue 2,2, Neubauer KO extreme 1,3mm
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liulin04 ![]() Premier Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 10/20/2003 Location: US Status: Offline Points: 6300 |
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I'm liking this Alfred Dela Pena kid against Liang. He's performing much better than I expected.
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 10424 |
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Kao Cheng-Jui/CCY 1-3 Lebrun^2
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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liulin04 ![]() Premier Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 10/20/2003 Location: US Status: Offline Points: 6300 |
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Damn, Yoshimura didn't have to finish the second set point like that against Luu. That was merciless
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 10424 |
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DO 1-3 -> 4-3 Akkuzu
G5 15, 85, 86, 106, 108, 118 G6 79, 119 G7 62, 63, 113 Mladenovic/Ni Xia Lian 2-1 -> 2-3 Gnanasekaran/Batra Edited by zeio - 05/20/2023 at 9:53am |
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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