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Basquests ![]() Silver Member ![]() Joined: 08/29/2016 Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Points: 520 |
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IMO It's hard enough to assess levels of talent between men and women, and this is a man and a 10 year old girl.
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manwithabigmission ![]() Member ![]() Joined: 06/27/2021 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 30 |
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You're correct, I should specified for their own gender of course. This girl could just go nowhere.
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DonnOlsen ![]() Gold Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 11/15/2008 Location: Maryland, USA Status: Offline Points: 1751 |
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Tenergy: Two weeks of heaven, followed by three months of excellence, then, a nice rubber.
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 9949 |
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Gotta quote this one for future generations. By your definition, the ITTF didn't exist in 1926 and the WTTC didn't exist in 1926. Montagu must be rolling in his grave. You're hilarious. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Table_Tennis_Federation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Table_Tennis_Championships
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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manwithabigmission ![]() Member ![]() Joined: 06/27/2021 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 30 |
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What are you even talking about? Moregard have not entered a WJC or Junior tournament since the WJC 2019. That was my point. Are you bad at English or what is the problem. I was not talking about WTTC or any other tournament. JUST THAT MOREGARD HAS NOT ENTERED A SINGLE WJC OR JUNIOR TOURNAMENT SINCE 2019. HE SKIPPED EYC AND WJC THIS YEAR. Zeio are you deliberately acting like a buffoon because people enjoy your posting? EDIT: Mods do ban me if Im breaking rules right now. I just can't respect people who deliberately misinterpret things.
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 9949 |
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Seriously? No one uses "since 2019" like that and then claim "since 2019 implied 2019" when the WJTTC 2019 was in late November. Anyone with a right mind would have used "since 2020", or better yet, "It's been 2 years since he last played in a junior event".
And as my first post stated, he signed up for World Youth Championships 2021. Thank table tennis god he withdrew. |
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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manwithabigmission ![]() Member ![]() Joined: 06/27/2021 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 30 |
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So it was just a stupid argument about semantics. I'm sorry if I said anything mean. I agree it is good he withdrew. Have a nice day zeio.
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amateur ![]() Premier Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 02/29/2008 Status: Offline Points: 4610 |
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The sentence had a negation (hasn't competed ... since 2019) and was correct - just admit that you misread it and leave out the insults.
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 9949 |
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Are you kidding me? Does "since 2019" mean the same as "since WJTTC 2019"? |
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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manwithabigmission ![]() Member ![]() Joined: 06/27/2021 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 30 |
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That might have been an oversight by me, but I am not sure I needed to get attacked for it. I will think about it in the future.
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 9949 |
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It doesn't have anything to do with negation.
"Hasn't competed in junior event since 2019" means from January 1 to December 31, okay? "Hasn't competed in junior event since WJTTC 2019" means from that event onward, got it? |
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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amateur ![]() Premier Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 02/29/2008 Status: Offline Points: 4610 |
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This has nothing do with months of the year. "He hasn't played since 2019" means "He played in 2019 but not in 2020 or 2021."
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manwithabigmission ![]() Member ![]() Joined: 06/27/2021 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 30 |
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THANK YOU for understand something that simple. And to try and stay on topic once more. We talk about Lebrun, but there are players such as Iulian Chirita that are also looking decent. 2005-2006 crop is pretty good.
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idk ![]() Silver Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 07/11/2011 Location: Bay Area Status: Offline Points: 787 |
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i'm sorry, but if that girl is beating fellow competition in the 13-15 age class, that is a really bad sign for the future of the swedish womens team. i see nothing really spectacular especially for the age 13-15 standard. though, to be fair, the swedish womens success has paled in comparison to the mens for a while. |
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manwithabigmission ![]() Member ![]() Joined: 06/27/2021 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 30 |
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They're really weak so you're not wrong. Maybe it is more correct to say that she's a talent that is not actually weak or mediocre for once.
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 9949 |
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In case folks feel I have something against European players, do check out my thread on European players and the impression(borderline superstition) of European players peaking later than their Asian counterparts.
I mean we've become too lenient with European players "peaking later" now when they're already in their mid-20s without achieving enough. I wrote that if Pitchford were to crack top 10, then he had to do it in 2019. He didn't and he's stuck now. 2021 Week #1 - 15 PITCHFORD Liam ENG 7768 2021 Week #48 - 14 PITCHFORD Liam ENG 5499 OTOH, Calderano is 25 and he's moved up to 4th in the world in the latest(Week #48) ranking. That's why I wrote "Forget the other ones over 20. They should be competing against the world's best by now and looking ready to replace "Ovtcharov, Franziska, Gauzy, Falck, Pitchford, Freitas, etc." These two have been in the top 10 for years now. 5 Harimoto, born Jun 27, 2003 7 LYJ, born Aug 17, 2001 These three should've been in the top 20 by now. 28 Jha, born Jun 19, 2000(like Calderano, not a European but he spends most of his time in Europe now) 31 Moregard, born Feb 16, 2002 93 Pletea, born May 28, 2000 |
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 9949 |
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Ever since WTTC 2021, Moregard has been a little less than impressive for much of 2022, except for WTT SCT ESS 2022 and WTT CS Macao 2022.
http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=91109&PID=1138558&title=short-video-about-felix-lebrun#1138558 ![]()
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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mykonos96 ![]() Gold Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 07/19/2018 Location: Southam Status: Offline Points: 1864 |
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Calderano DOB 1996
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 9949 |
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Of the YOG 2018 generation, Jha and Pletea are falling behind, and CDS is catching up.
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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NextLevel ![]() Forum Moderator ![]() ![]() Joined: 12/15/2011 Location: Somewhere Good Status: Offline Points: 14418 |
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Yeah, not playing for three months as part of a drug-testing suspension makes you fall behind.
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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zeio ![]() Premier Member ![]() Joined: 03/25/2010 Status: Offline Points: 9949 |
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There's more than one way to define strength/level. Getting tested is part of a player's duty, just like keeping themselves healthy.
https://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=92471&PID=1134485&title=wtt-contender-nova-gorica-2022-10-3111-6#1134485
http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=92795&PID=1137946&title=wtt-contender-amman-2023-2-612#1137946
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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