How to Practice using SP???

Watch Wang Tao and learn.

And how about chopping cos when i chop normally the ball is not as heavy as i thought so i shoul do a little bit a u turn chop (downward-then upward)...

What do u think?

And can we defense by chopping like LP using SP?

 

SP its very good in fast raillies active block flips and topspin, just keep training and training you ill get used and feel confortable with it

I use sp both sides. Have used inverted in the past.
main thing is to punch through the ball as early as you can. Also learn to block as well or you are not getting full value. Practise blocking against kills and loops until yr partner complains its like playing against a wall. key for blocking against power drives and kills is to flinch backward and upward with whole body at impact. Des Douglas of uk was best example of this shot even though he used inverted.
Tactical key with sp. Stay at the table do not give ground for anything!

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     Been using 802-40 for a short while now,these few words by pingpongpaddy are spot on imo.Just a wrist snap sends the ball very true,straight and fast if placed well your opponents have a hard time keeping up with it

any video tapes of johnny huang would be helpfull to you.

Nicko wrote: when u say punch the ball as early as i can, do mean to punch the ball before the highest point?becoz when the ball is backspinned do u really think that the ball doesn't fall? do u hava any suggestion how to punch the backspinned ball without making the ball fall, cos as i know that this is why sp so popular... thanx all

Against backspin of course you can roll it or brush it to lift the ball, but those are neutral shots which keep you going but dont make yr opponent think "this sp is dificult to handle". So only lift if you need to otherwise against backspin you need to punch at highest point as described below.

first BH
I use sp both sides, but my advice to nicko addressed the fact that he uses sp on the bh. Also I was referring to bh against drive or loop, punching early really puts pressure on the inverted loop driver.
However, if i get a backspin ball (might be bad serve or weak push)which same height or higher than the net, i punch through the ball so that the racket follows the path the ball will have to travel to clear the net and hit the table on the other side. I do it as a flat shot with the wrist snap putting the full force of the blade through the back of the ball. As I punch or pump with my arm this allows me to aim the ball almost anywhere on the table. The pump of the arm ensures that at contact point the racket passes through the ball without going across the line.
Now FH
Because i have more room and more power on fh the stroke can be more of a swing and against a chopper I might well loop if need be much like an inverted player. However as an sp player just like on the bh I am looking to do a flat smash at the top of the bounce to any ball that I think is weak and higher than the net. After years of doing this I am quite used to smashing very low balls as most sp players are.
There is another shot which addreses your question which sp players can do against light chop: That is the rubber bat style crisp hit with slightly open racket hitting the chop as its rising. This kind of shot is very easy to place anywhere, and sets up opportunities to kill with the full power any return which comes back too high.
Watch the Reisman type hard bat guys and youll get the feeling for it and it will be a big help to your sp game.
One off the wall tip:
Practice hitting a few times with plain wood. Youll be surprised what your eye and coordination will allow you todo in terms of hitting low balls. Then you can adapt these skills to your sp or even inverted game.
good hitting!
ps sorry this post is v longwinded but difficult questions to answer with just words!

pingpongpaddy wrote: first BH I use sp both sides, but my advice to nicko addressed the fact that he uses sp on the bh. Also I was referring to bh against drive or loop, punching early really puts pressure on the inverted loop driver. However, if i get a backspin ball (might be bad serve or weak push)which same height or higher than the net, i punch through the ball so that the racket follows the path the ball will have to travel to clear the net and hit the table on the other side. I do it as a flat shot with the wrist snap putting the full force of the blade through the back of the ball. As I punch or pump with my arm this allows me to aim the ball almost anywhere on the table. The pump of the arm ensures that at contact point the racket passes through the ball without going across the line.

Dear I require some SP(at backhand) tips from you.

1.For hitting backspin balls, do you require wrist movement? or only arm action?

2. while hitting, do you keep the blade-head completely vertical or tilted to your left hand side?

3. for hitting, how much backswing is needed?

4. is your hitting is same as jabbing? in jabbing real force is imparted to the ball after it hits the blade; while hitting is your blade is already reached high speed before contact.

5. If you have a video kindlyshare.

thanks

I agree with pingpong paddy, but to expand:

1) Keep the wrist loose, use the wrist if the ball is close to the net or over the table.  Otherwise a waist turn and closing the elbow is appropriate for hitting.

2) Your blade angle depends on the height of the ball and the direction you are hitting it.  The higher the ball, the flatter you can hit it.  I generally impart some topspin for control.

3) Keep your backswing short, turn into the shot with your legs, hip and waist for power.  Keep your preparation short and don't overdo your follow through.

4) Once the ball hits the blade, you can't apply additional force as the contact time is too short.  On blocks you can punch the ball, but you have to accelerate before the ball hits your blade to impart any force.  Hitting is more of a swing than a jab, unless the ball is over the table near the net.

5) I don't have video either, but look for short pip hitters like Johnny Huang and Wang Tao who are featured on many videos.

-- Andrew

Stiga Clippa or Butterfly P.O. Soft would probably be most similar to Spectol.

1) You can spin the ball for serves, but you have to use a lot of wrist action to do it.
2-3) It's much easier to loop backspin after the top of the bounce than before.
4) You generally want to drive or smash a counter or topspin ball rather than try to retopspin it.
5) I don't find pips that good for fishing but you can do it. Just don't expect to get a lot of spin. Better to stay close and block the ball.

-- Andrew

Also tell me, how do you drive with SP against
a counter ball
backspin ball
no spin ball
topspin ball

deeptish wrote: please tell me if the following is possible.. and the techniques. 1. producing good spin, say a heavy cut service 2. loop against moderate backspin before top of bounce 3. loop against moderate backspin after top of bounce 4. driving a counter ball or re-topspin a topspin ball 5. fishing from 2-3mts away

please tell me if the following is possible.. and the techniques.

1. producing good spin, say a heavy cut service
definitely I practice for 1 hr every week and my serves are effective.
2. loop against moderate backspin before top of bounce
yes but inverted is better for this. Also yr sp is on yr bh you should be hiting blocking or getting in with yr fh
3. loop against moderate backspin after top of bounce
yes but only if you have to (not confident to play fh)
4. driving a counter ball or re-topspin a topspin ball
drive it off the bounce if you naturally go back you lose the advantage of sp. Sp is speed happy not spinhappy!
5. fishing from 2-3mts away
control will be good aim high and deep to the baseline
rubbers
I like 802-40 (if you get from zeropong you can get just topsheet and experiment with diff sponges)
spectol
and clippa
I changed to Tyranno and FLARESTORM because they are high tension. They give me good touch on block and fantastic KILL as well
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