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    Posted: 02/01/2011 at 6:58pm
I will be reviewing at least 2 of these rubbers in coming days. But feel free to post your reviews if you already played with them. 

i played briefly with Moon, and it did seem a little like the tenergy series rubbers, but a lot lot more like an improved version of red diamond.

i am thinking of using moon or sun on my BH.




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If you use rubber cement to put the rubbers on, please let us know as that can change the way it plays a lot. Also, if you use a tuner or spinmax. Smile

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I've been told by an ex-intern at Ping Pong World that these rubbers are "popular" in Japan.  By popular I mean 10000 sheets/month or year.  But still 10000 sheets, is a lot of rubber.
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Originally posted by Hookshot Hookshot wrote:

If you use rubber cement to put the rubbers on, please let us know as that can change the way it plays a lot. Also, if you use a tuner or spinmax. Smile


  

hookshot, are you really asking me if i use rubber cement after being on this forum for 5 years?  LOL

spinmax ..!!! Shocked no not again, that was 2.5 - 3 years back when i used spinmax aqua. 
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I am asking after reading your thread on Eliminating rubbers, seems you mention spinmax, tuners, etc a few times. If you use rubber cement, please let me know how many days after you put the rubber on you do the review. The first two days can be very different than later.  Smile
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Debraj,
 
Could you provide the hardness/Thickness on your review as well? As I know, Moon, Sun and Mars has many different hardness/thickness. Therefore, it is really hard to tell about the rubber' characteristic.
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tdragon: i will try to provide all those parameters

hookshot: jokes apart, the only glue i used in last 3 years is tearmender. it has outlived all my other equipments. :)
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What planet are you on!    (just a little side joke)   Wink 
 
Ive heard on the Sun and Moon but I didn't realise they had a Mars version?
It should be very interestion hearing about them
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will be waiting for your review of SUN.
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Got a pair of Sun 36. Behaves very much like Tenergy as far as external physical properties are concerned. Elastic, totally non-tacky topsheet, sponge is the same as T05, probably not that porous but reacting in the same way. Good spin, probably about 85% of T05, 70 g uncut, 51-52 cut for OSP 528 (159x150). Red rubber translucent. Pimples are bigger than T25 but the feeling is clearly of T05.
 
Played half an hour with them and dozen of games. Reliable at all distances, not that much sensitive to incoming spin, good for blocking, excellent for looping, requires better coordination while chopping.
 
First impressions are very good. Will be keeping them for two weeks to test consistency and change of characteristics over time.
 
So far: Bargain rubbers in every and all respects.
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imago: that's great initial feedback. from the reviews, i was beginning to think, that sun probably doesn't loop that good, but blocks best. good that you help correct my thinking.

for those who can't wait.. here is 25 page thread on german forum on these rubbers. 

what i don't understand is why germans always buy 1.9 or 1.7, and then complain that rubber is not fast enough...???
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imago: did you play with LKT torrent ever? it has same huge pips... and throw was non-linear from low speed to high speed. do you see anything like that in this rubber?


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Originally posted by debraj debraj wrote:


for those who can't wait.. here is 25 page thread on german forum on these rubbers. 

what i don't understand is why germans always buy 1.9 or 1.7, and then complain that rubber is not fast enough...???
 
...and too hard in 33 degrees?!
 
I don't think so. 36 degrees is as hard as any regular Tenergy sponge. Topsheet seems even softer.
 
From my experience with Mercury 2, I know that the Moxa topsheed has to be warmed up. If this is the same Moxa with Sun we should expect it to become even more soft within ten days. Although I suspect that the Sun Moxa is as close to the Mercury 2 Moxa as Venus 2 MaxTense sponge is close to Sun MaxTense sponge. In other words, nothing in common.


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Originally posted by debraj debraj wrote:

tdragon: i will try to provide all those parameters

hookshot: jokes apart, the only glue i used in last 3 years is tearmender. it has outlived all my other equipments. :)


i think hookshot asked because you tend to tune both topsheets and sponges with PO at any given moment, particularly after a bad night of playing. And as you well know, PO can radically alter the player properties of a sheet of rubber, and sometimes not for the better :)



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Originally posted by Imago Imago wrote:

From my experience with Mercury 2, I know that the Moxa topsheed has to be warmed up. If this is the same Moxa with Sun we should expect it to become even more soft within ten days. Although I suspect that the Sun Moxa is as close to the Mercury 2 Moxa as Venus 2 MaxTense sponge is close to Sun MaxTense sponge. In other words, nothing in common.


Sun and Moon are Max Tense while Mars is Moxa. According to Yinhe Moxa is a relatively inexpensive SGE tech.
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icontek ... i tune rubbers only if they lose grip, after weeks of usage. never new rubbers. and not to enhance performance, but only to bring back to original performance. also, independent where you apply, after 3-4 hours PO spreads everywhere. :)

imago: absolutely agree. in tt-news.de; someone can perfectly put 33degree 1.7mm rubber on all- wood blade (and claim that he is a looper) ...and complain too hard and too slow.

i think icontek can join that forum and his pitch for slower blade will be taken more seriously. LOL
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Can't wait to read some reviews in English. I ordered 2 sheets of the moon in 2.0mm 34 degree, but won't arrive till Friday.
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Originally posted by MindTrip MindTrip wrote:

Can't wait to read some reviews in English. I ordered 2 sheets of the moon in 2.0mm 34 degree, but won't arrive till Friday.

2.0 ? 34 degree? are you from germany?Wink
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deb pls tell us what hardness and thickness did you get and what do you think is the hardness one should have the same( or close to  feel/speed/spin of 2.1mm T05/05fx and T25.

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Impressions are very controversial on the German forum. Some say 33 d are like concrete (Beton), others complain that 36 d are too soft, some have got fissures and swolen topsheets after 15 m play, others say it is perfect (einwandfrei) after 2 months. One is for sure - the max rubbers are heavy, Sun is more heavy than Moon.

And there is a strange diversification we don't see on the International shops - Pro versions of Sun and Moon with different sponge color, tuned. The Pro version China_friend is selling has only different topsheet, super tacky as per request of some Provincial team.
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I got a new sheet of Moon 37deg with 2mm thick in Black today.  This is not typical Chinese rubber but very jap/euro liked rubber.  Rubber is not tacky at all but very grippy.  The sponge is not hard or mushy and the hardness feel should be in between T05 and T05FX.  However, it does not have that spring effect like Tenergy.  The rubber is light.  The uncut weight ~ 60grs and ~ 42grs after cut for LatCoustik blade.

Quick observation after playing ~ 2hrs.

Very nice rubber with great control.  It also does everything well but lack of power when playing from mid distance and far from table.  Much less spinny than T05 for sure.  However, it shines in the department of blocking and smashing.  Another great feature is that it is not very sensitive for the incoming spin.  Fits better on BH than FH.  It might also match better with faster and crispy blade.  I'll try to review more after several sections.



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This is the reason why I picked Sun over Moon after watching the Jp videos. More power due to the larger pimples.
 
I was also told that Moon max uncut is about 64 g. It would make 10-12 g less for the entire combo.
 
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Originally posted by debraj debraj wrote:

Originally posted by MindTrip MindTrip wrote:

Can't wait to read some reviews in English. I ordered 2 sheets of the moon in 2.0mm 34 degree, but won't arrive till Friday.

2.0 ? 34 degree? are you from germany?Wink


Haha! Actually born and raised in the US. Tenergy05 was a bit much for me to handle close to the net. With Moon and Ten05 being closely related, I figured I'd give it a shot for the price. If it's too slow, but spins well, I'll drop another $25 and get a 2.3mm.
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Originally posted by debraj debraj wrote:



imago: that's great initial feedback. from the reviews, i was beginning to think, that sun probably doesn't loop that good, but blocks best. good that you help correct my thinking.
for those who can't wait.. here is 25 page thread on german forum on these rubbers. 
what i don't understand is why germans always buy 1.9 or 1.7, and then complain that rubber is not fast enough...???


It is probably the same american phenomenon of usatt rated 1600 player sporting an off+ blade with Tenergy max on both sides complaining about the rubber lacking touch :)

That is probably the trend in Germany. Use thinner rubber and extract your speed by learning proper techniques. They maybe on to something.
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Originally posted by bonggoy bonggoy wrote:

Originally posted by debraj debraj wrote:



imago: that's great initial feedback. from the reviews, i was beginning to think, that sun probably doesn't loop that good, but blocks best. good that you help correct my thinking.
for those who can't wait.. here is 25 page thread on german forum on these rubbers. 
what i don't understand is why germans always buy 1.9 or 1.7, and then complain that rubber is not fast enough...???


It is probably the same american phenomenon of usatt rated 1600 player sporting an off+ blade with Tenergy max on both sides complaining about the rubber lacking touch :)

That is probably the trend in Germany. Use thinner rubber and extract your speed by learning proper techniques. They maybe on to something.

...being on other extreme doesn't make one wise. they are as naive as the us intermediates sporting super fast equipments.






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You class someone using 2.0mm rubbers as as extreme and naive? LOL


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