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Topic: ITTF Pro Tour Grand Finals 2009 (videos)
Posted By: takaaki
Subject: ITTF Pro Tour Grand Finals 2009 (videos)
Date Posted: 01/04/2010 at 2:47pm
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will be televised on itTV starting this Thursday. here's the start times for the first day(s): Jan. 07 starting at 2h30 GMT U21 Groups matches boys and girls Jan. 08 starting at 6h00 GMT Men's and Women's Doubles 1/4 and 1/2 finals U21 boys and girls 1/2 finals Jan. 08 : LIVE STREAMING starting at 11h00 GMT Men's and Women's singles also, CCTV5 will start their coverage @ 3:45 pm, beijing time, or 2:45 am ET this saturday. ------------- BANNED |
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Posted By: mudr.nudl
Date Posted: 01/04/2010 at 4:16pm
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here is official site: http://www.ittf.com/competitions/competitions2.asp?Competition_ID=1902&category=pt - ITTF: 2009 Pro Tour Grand Finals Macao, MAC, Jan 7 - Jan 10 , 2010 here is official schedule: http://www.ittf.com/Protour_new/pdf/2009GF/ScheduleGF.pdf - 2009 Pro Tour Grand Final , Macau, MAC, Jan 7 - Jan 10 , 2010 - SCHEDULE here is list of confirmed players: http://www.ittf.com/Protour_new/pdf/2009GF/Confirmedplayers.pdf - 2009 Pro Tour Grand Final , Macau, MAC, Jan 7 - Jan 10 , 2010 - CONFIRMED PLAYERS and here is some informations about recording matches: http://www.ittf.com/tms/TMS_International/Documents_Guidelines_files/TVproductionPTGF2010.pdf - ITTF Pro tour Grand Finals TV production Guidelines -------------  
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Posted By: mudr.nudl
Date Posted: 01/04/2010 at 4:17pm
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i will record ittv - that is sure...
pls somebody record cctv... -------------
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Posted By: mudr.nudl
Date Posted: 01/04/2010 at 4:25pm
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CCTV 5 can be watched at : http://www.TVUnetworks.com - TVUnetworks - multi internet TV http://sports.cntv.cn/index.shtml - CHN TV -------------
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Posted By: Vladovich
Date Posted: 01/04/2010 at 4:58pm
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I can't wait, it would be great tournament, all Chinese are there except Wang Hao, who is not in the good form, + top players of the rest. ------------- Tibhar Defense Plus FH: Joola Phenix BH: Dr. Neubauer Bison 1.5mm "The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities, some consider to be…unnatural." |
Posted By: SoWhySoSerious
Date Posted: 01/04/2010 at 5:14pm
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This will be BIG tournament!Can't wait!
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Posted By: ttCrawsaive
Date Posted: 01/06/2010 at 9:16am
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but why is it in 4:3?
16:9 would be much better^^ ------------- http://www.youtube.com/user/ttCrawsaive |
Posted By: ttCrawsaive
Date Posted: 01/06/2010 at 9:22am
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Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 01/06/2010 at 9:41am
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Aww man, the choppers face each other right off the bat and the two young Germans as well. Looks like Boll will be tested right out the gate here. I guess with 6 Chinese it's pretty much unavoidable, but still, that's a lot of Chinese...There could well be only one German left after two rounds.
Also noticed, only two penholders, and soon maybe none if Boll wins, Zhang Jike does very well against Ma Lin. Boll has never played Xu Xin, but you know Xu Xin has trained against "Boll" clones. Also sad, no Wang Hao, Samsanov, Mizutani, Maze, etc. |
Posted By: TT over Study
Date Posted: 01/06/2010 at 10:26am
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zhang vs ma again! interesting, i think the last time ma won was at china open when hao shuai won the tournament
zhang ji ke, jia you!
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Posted By: ttCrawsaive
Date Posted: 01/06/2010 at 12:02pm
Would there be a Ovtcharov clone in China? ------------- http://www.youtube.com/user/ttCrawsaive |
Jonan wrote:Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 01/06/2010 at 12:19pm
Well Dima did well the first time, took him to 7 games. The second though it was more one sided. 2-11,11-7,2-11,4-11,8-11. Losing 11-2, 11-2 and 11-4 is pretty bad... If they didn't have one the first time, they may now since he is getting better. |
Posted By: metallikviper
Date Posted: 01/06/2010 at 12:59pm
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Is there a reason there are so many Germans (nothing against them)? But would have loved to see Samsonov, Jun, Maze and Schlager. Would be nice to see Liqin make it to the final, he seems to be struggling a bit recently.
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Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 01/06/2010 at 1:03pm
Well some got in because they were on the verge points wise in the pro tour and other players who were ahead of them, Samsanov, Jun, etc. dropped out. Schlager just didn't have many points, he only played in a couple pro tour events and both times got knocked out by Patrick Baum, who is consequently there. |
Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 01/06/2010 at 1:24pm
| "zun?" who is that s'posed to be? |
Posted By: spitfire
Date Posted: 01/06/2010 at 1:32pm
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Posted By: mudr.nudl
Date Posted: 01/06/2010 at 1:44pm
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interesting matches (PLS RECORD):
MA Long vs. OVTCHAROV Dimitrij ZHANG Jike vs. MA Lin XU Xin vs. BOLL Timo and also JOO Se Hyuk vs. CHEN Weixing -------------
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Posted By: lild100
Date Posted: 01/06/2010 at 1:47pm
hey man, they r playing it on ittf arnt they? we can watch there?
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Posted By: mudr.nudl
Date Posted: 01/06/2010 at 1:47pm
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Quarterfinals:
MAvOH JOOvZHANG HAOvWANG and last is very questionable -------------
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Posted By: mudr.nudl
Date Posted: 01/06/2010 at 1:48pm
i am afraid of only 1 table will be recorded = 4 matches...  -------------
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Posted By: trainer
Date Posted: 01/06/2010 at 2:34pm
| I hate how ittf posts matches in a way so that if you don't watch it right away when a match is first played...you know the outcome e.g. they post the quaterfinal matches - and then right next to them they post the semi final matches.. =( |
Posted By: metallikviper
Date Posted: 01/06/2010 at 3:37pm
sorry about that. Thanks for correcting. ------------- Nittaku Vioncello FL FH: Donic Acuda S2 Max BH: TSP P1-R 1.1mm |
Posted By: shishi
Date Posted: 01/06/2010 at 11:21pm
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U21 - Groups http://www.mediafire.com/?wt4nyzm3yx2 - SALIFOU Abdel-Kader (FRA) VS. ZHMUDENKO Yaroslav (UKR) http://www.mediafire.com/?4omyiyw4buz - DODEAN Daniela (ROM) VS. PARK Young Sook (KOR) |
Posted By: ttCrawsaive
Date Posted: 01/07/2010 at 2:01pm
I think all matches will be recorded, they will just set down One main camera, Like Jun Young Sik(or something) vs Ma Liang:)
Don't worry, all matches will be probably recorded ------------- http://www.youtube.com/user/ttCrawsaive |
Posted By: mudr.nudl
Date Posted: 01/07/2010 at 2:20pm
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yes there is some hope !!!
because todays U21 matches were not be planed aslo (and were recorded) -------------
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 01/07/2010 at 2:51pm
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I have recorded Ruwen Filus vs Yaroslav Zhmudenko Uploading it to MU now... ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: mudr.nudl
Date Posted: 01/07/2010 at 2:58pm
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i think i am going to upload MA Liang vs. JUNG Young Sik - it is for me best match from ittv menu now... -------------
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 01/07/2010 at 3:51pm
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http://www.megaupload.com/?d=V4OV4LA4 - Ruwen Filus vs Yaroslav Zhmudenko ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: mudr.nudl
Date Posted: 01/08/2010 at 1:39am
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MA Liang vs. JUNG Young Sik (without last set)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=STRILE80%20 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=STRILE80 -------------
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Posted By: asyraf
Date Posted: 01/08/2010 at 2:15am
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go! go! go! ma long!! ------------- Blade: TBS FH: Sriver L 2.1mm BH: Vega Europe Max |
Posted By: JooSH
Date Posted: 01/08/2010 at 8:02am
| Please Joo Se Hyuk - Chen Weixing video :) |
Posted By: Totoro
Date Posted: 01/08/2010 at 8:13am
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The iTTV site is being a ****. Quite slow... maybe the influx of people watching it.
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Posted By: lild100
Date Posted: 01/08/2010 at 12:05pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH2n4j18SV0 -
Chen Weixing vs Jo See Hyuk (2010 Pro Tour Grand Final)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH2n4j18SV0
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Posted By: ttCrawsaive
Date Posted: 01/08/2010 at 12:26pm
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 01/08/2010 at 12:47pm
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I think it's going to be Ma Long vs WLQ in the final, Xu Xin and Zhang Jike sharing 3-4. ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: ttCrawsaive
Date Posted: 01/08/2010 at 1:05pm
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Steger vs Xu Xin looks intresting. Semi Final: Ma Long vs Zhang Jike Xu Xin vs Wang Liqin ------------- http://www.youtube.com/user/ttCrawsaive |
Posted By: Vladovich
Date Posted: 01/08/2010 at 2:49pm
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I predict semi final: Ma Long - Joo Se Hyuk Xu Xin - Hao Shuai In the final: Ma Long - Xu Xin, and Xu Xin win 4-2 :) ------------- Tibhar Defense Plus FH: Joola Phenix BH: Dr. Neubauer Bison 1.5mm "The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities, some consider to be…unnatural." |
Posted By: Zo k
Date Posted: 01/08/2010 at 2:56pm
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I predict final: ) STEGER-MA:4-3 (1-11,3-11,1-11,13-11,13-11,16-14,21-19)  ------------- OSP Ultimate 3 CRW ST Victas V>01 Limber max Victas V>01 Limber 2.0 |
Posted By: ttCrawsaive
Date Posted: 01/08/2010 at 3:23pm
I'll eat my whole hous if you're right^^
Steger is gonna lose so badly versus Xu Xin :(
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Posted By: Thylacine
Date Posted: 01/08/2010 at 3:43pm
I hope that Xu Xin will win it. He is playing amazing table tennis.  ------------- Single Ply Hinoki club |
Posted By: ZingyDNA
Date Posted: 01/08/2010 at 3:44pm
So the final will be Ma Long vs himself? |
Posted By: ZingyDNA
Date Posted: 01/08/2010 at 3:48pm
Yeah his FH is amazing. His FH loop is always good but his drives killed Boll. I'm not sure WLQ could beat him... |
Posted By: TTNoobie
Date Posted: 01/08/2010 at 3:49pm
Liu Shiwen lost to Fukuhara maybe that newly WR#1 got to her head
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Posted By: ttCrawsaive
Date Posted: 01/08/2010 at 3:49pm
XD I edited it :) ------------- http://www.youtube.com/user/ttCrawsaive |
Posted By: Thylacine
Date Posted: 01/08/2010 at 3:50pm
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The Chinese have already cloned Ma Long?? ------------- Single Ply Hinoki club |
Posted By: Sallom89
Date Posted: 01/08/2010 at 3:53pm
LOL  ------------- Member of Wang Hao fan club. Hurricane Hao III FH: Thors RPB: Omega Pro |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 01/08/2010 at 4:04pm
She was playing with a fever - at least according to her coach... ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: lild100
Date Posted: 01/08/2010 at 4:35pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DGf-VxF0cM -
Xu XIn vs Timo Boll (2010 Pro Tour Grand Final)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DGf-VxF0cM
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 01/08/2010 at 4:52pm
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Edited the title (to avoid confusion with discussion thread). Hope it's ok with the thread-starter. ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 01/08/2010 at 5:16pm
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Ruwen Filus vs Jung Young Sik http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7FP74V4O - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7FP74V4O ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 01/08/2010 at 5:30pm
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Ma Long vs Dimitrij Ovtcharov http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YZ19L2X9 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YZ19L2X9 ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: metallikviper
Date Posted: 01/08/2010 at 5:35pm
+1 Except Ma Long wins 4-2. Xu Xin is playing some amazing TT. His FH is just unbelievable fast. He ripped through Timo. Ma Long just seems to have very well rounded game and his BH is improving fast. (As a modern defender myself I would love to see Joo make it-but Ma is just too fast for him) ------------- Nittaku Vioncello FL FH: Donic Acuda S2 Max BH: TSP P1-R 1.1mm |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 01/08/2010 at 5:53pm
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I still think WLQ can beat Xu Xin... well, we'll see that soon. ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: Vladovich
Date Posted: 01/08/2010 at 6:34pm
Thanks on the video lid100, I really like this kind of "pure action" videos, because I found it boring to watch the entire match when I know the results. ------------- Tibhar Defense Plus FH: Joola Phenix BH: Dr. Neubauer Bison 1.5mm "The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities, some consider to be…unnatural." |
Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 01/08/2010 at 8:13pm
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Here's my 2 cents... :D
I don't think Hao Shuai would win against WLQ, as given their styles of play, WLQ would just overwhelm Hao Shuai with his power in his BH and FH. It would probably be Xu Xin vs WLQ for the semifinals, and I'll bet on WLQ, since he would already be used to Xu Xin's serves, and WLQ is really experienced in playing penholders. Joo See Hyuk is the real dark horse here. Zhang Jike and Ma Long are not that good at playing choppers. If Joo wins against Ma Long and ZJK then WLQ would win. Otherwise Ma Long wins the tournament. I'll bet that Ma Long would win the whole competition. |
Posted By: lild100
Date Posted: 01/08/2010 at 8:15pm
no worries m8
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Posted By: TTNoobie
Date Posted: 01/08/2010 at 9:41pm
what horrible commenting on the xu xin/timo boll match. I want to hear commentary, NOT someone cheering like a timo fanboy. How annoying |
Posted By: naijachief
Date Posted: 01/08/2010 at 9:52pm
Agreed. You should have heard the commentary for the Liu Shiwen/Fukuhara match. Horrible. ------------- who no know go know |
Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 01/09/2010 at 1:05am
Well he is speaking in English... |
Posted By: Cyrilix
Date Posted: 01/09/2010 at 1:35am
| He speaks about the players as if they were all his best chums. I don't know if I particularly like it but I guess I don't mind that much. He's got too many side stories to tell, though. |
Posted By: liang1983
Date Posted: 01/09/2010 at 3:46am
Wang LiQin ------------- Butterfly Photino Tenergy 05 Tenergy 05 |
Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 01/09/2010 at 4:17am
I dunno, some of it is interesting. I never noticed myself the way Ma Long disguises his backhand with his left hand and what that does. |
Posted By: liang1983
Date Posted: 01/09/2010 at 9:18am
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any Wang Liqin vs Hao Shuai video ?? ------------- Butterfly Photino Tenergy 05 Tenergy 05 |
Posted By: yxltlan
Date Posted: 01/09/2010 at 10:52am
I LOVE XU XIN....!!!! STEGER Bastian GER Vs XU Xin CHN - Quarter Final http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8O9TIV1G - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8O9TIV1G ------------- Sanwei Cc Carbon Palio FH |
Posted By: Fruit loop
Date Posted: 01/09/2010 at 11:10am
The commentator is a tool. Ma Long doesn't disguise his backhand, he just uses his left hand for power/balance. ------------- Timo Boll Spirit FL Dr Evil ox both sides. |
Posted By: tpgh2k
Date Posted: 01/09/2010 at 12:00pm
+1000000000000 the ittv link is broken!! it won't even load!! ------------- www.youtube.com/gsutabletennis Timo Boll Spirit FL H3 Blue Sponge Black FH Tenergy 64 Red BH |
Posted By: lild100
Date Posted: 01/09/2010 at 12:27pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MURZdm9uJuw -
Xu Xin vs Bastien Steger (2009 Pro Tour Grand Final)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MURZdm9uJuw
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Posted By: dmras
Date Posted: 01/09/2010 at 8:46pm
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Wang Liqin vs Hao Shuai video - http://sports.cctv.com/20100109/103062.shtml |
Posted By: skip3119
Date Posted: 01/10/2010 at 12:05am
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Off Topic.
Just noticed that Zhang Yining just dropped to #2 in women world ranking (January, 2010). Her "Ranking" points declined quite a bit.
I have not seen her playing on the world stage for quite some time (marriage).
Has she played any major event recently (I may have missed)? ------------- skip3119 |
Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 01/10/2010 at 12:27am
omigod!! thank you so much for that!! wlq is my favorite player and i was looking forward to seeing him play this time around, cuz i haven't seen him in a while!! |
Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 01/10/2010 at 12:40am
did you actually mean "tool" or "fool?" forgive me for being an american, but i just can't stand to listen to snoody, snobby, snotty, phlegmy-voiced brits. and the fact that there are sometimes 2 of them there doing the commentary is just sickening to me, figuratively and literally. so, somebody, please get a box a kleenex and send those 2 blokes away to the washroom!! actually, make it 2 boxes... |
Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 01/10/2010 at 2:06am
Nope, she hasn't played in 10 months, but she will be back on top with Liu's loss in the first round. Only 2 points seperated the 2 on ITTF, there is a gap of over 100 between her and the 2nd place on Rating Central... |
Posted By: Cyrilix
Date Posted: 01/10/2010 at 3:41am
To be honest though, your ranking points should decrease slowly if you don't maintain titles. Basically, I think that's the idea behind bonus points for winning titles, since if you keep winning them, you should get to keep those bonus points. |
Posted By: Cyrilix
Date Posted: 01/10/2010 at 3:42am
Haha, well, he can be entertaining at times, however I absolutely hate when he's talking about Zhang Jike and speed glue creeping out of the bat when it's simply a white and black colored blade guard on the side. He should get with the times. Speed glue is so 2008. Edit: My bad, I should've edited my first post instead of double-posting. |
Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 01/10/2010 at 4:04am
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wang li qin vs. xi xun cctvt5 on tvunetworks.com right now.
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Posted By: ZingyDNA
Date Posted: 01/10/2010 at 4:17am
| I think I saw WLQ tried a reverse serve... |
Posted By: ohhgourami
Date Posted: 01/10/2010 at 4:20am
i noticed too. a bit strange but it won him the point. ------------- Custom Walnut 7-ply DHS H3 Provincial untuned 40° BTY T64 210g |
Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 01/10/2010 at 4:34am
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they are so close...it is frightening to see that ma long is almost obsolete already...we'll see. xx relies so much on the fh he might get tired sooner; however look ma lin... ------------- /forum/topic91512_page1.html#1124698" rel="nofollow - sales - forum_posts.asp?TID=19315" rel="nofollow - feedback |
Posted By: ZingyDNA
Date Posted: 01/10/2010 at 4:41am
| Yeah the Chinese youngsters are coming up so fast. Missing any oppertunities to take any game costs you... |
Posted By: ohhgourami
Date Posted: 01/10/2010 at 4:45am
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itTV british commentator is really ANNOYING!!!!
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Posted By: Vladovich
Date Posted: 01/10/2010 at 6:14am
Well I like him, I like that kind of voice, reminds me on tennis commentators on Eurosport, but they need to bring in two of them, and one of the commentators to be some expert in table tennis (for example a top players coach, or former world champion) who really understands the game and could tell us some interesting comments, and not just "ho ho ho, what a point!" .
But I think this commentator is quite good, just need some expert alongside of him :). ------------- Tibhar Defense Plus FH: Joola Phenix BH: Dr. Neubauer Bison 1.5mm "The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities, some consider to be…unnatural." |
Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 01/10/2010 at 7:04am
I don't think he's obsolete, he may just have a true rival finally, the one that Zhang Jike hasn't been. A Ma Lin to his Wang Liqin, but Ma Long is superior, just like Wang Liqin, he'll prove that. |
Posted By: Vladovich
Date Posted: 01/10/2010 at 7:43am
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Well, they actually have two commentators :)) ------------- Tibhar Defense Plus FH: Joola Phenix BH: Dr. Neubauer Bison 1.5mm "The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities, some consider to be…unnatural." |
Posted By: SoWhySoSerious
Date Posted: 01/10/2010 at 10:00am
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Zhang Jike-Ma Long: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgD8ICIfglo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgD8ICIfglo ------------- http://www.youtube.com/ttCountenance" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/ttCountenance Don't lose yourself in table tennis, whatever it means to you. |
Posted By: skip3119
Date Posted: 01/10/2010 at 10:05am
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Zhang Yining's ITTF "Ranking Points":
December, 2009 ----- 12771
January, 2010 ----- 12723
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Looks like a player's inactivity will hurt the player's ITTF "Ranking Points".
Is that true? ------------- skip3119 |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 01/10/2010 at 10:12am
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Special "achievement" points gained at WTTC, WC, Olympics slowly expire according to the corresponding schedule - 1/2 a year or 1/4 a year etc... ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: SoWhySoSerious
Date Posted: 01/10/2010 at 11:22am
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Wang Liqin-Xu Xin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEa7pnPD_Gg - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEa7pnPD_Gg ------------- http://www.youtube.com/ttCountenance" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/ttCountenance Don't lose yourself in table tennis, whatever it means to you. |
Posted By: almal
Date Posted: 01/10/2010 at 11:46am
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MS-SF
Ma Long vs Zhang Jike
http://depositfiles.com/files/fhdxwz3wk - http://depositfiles.com/files/fhdxwz3wk
Wang Liqin vs Xu Xin
http://depositfiles.com/files/q7dwqpwr0 - http://depositfiles.com/files/q7dwqpwr0
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Posted By: dragon kid
Date Posted: 01/10/2010 at 1:36pm
But XX is only what 19 or 20? He still developing.. XX looks like the real deal, his FH improve quite a lot, he is one of the best retriever of the ball away from the table. He and Ma Long will rule TT in the future when Wang Hao is gone.. ------------- 'Nobody is Perfect. I am Nobody' |
Posted By: LOOPMEISTER
Date Posted: 01/10/2010 at 3:03pm
+1. That volley @ 5-7 in the 5th was one of the most exciting points I've seen in a long time!!!! |
Posted By: SoWhySoSerious
Date Posted: 01/10/2010 at 5:38pm
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Ma Long-Xu Xin Final: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIKPIkRfUuk - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIKPIkRfUuk ------------- http://www.youtube.com/ttCountenance" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/ttCountenance Don't lose yourself in table tennis, whatever it means to you. |
Posted By: kenneyy88
Date Posted: 01/10/2010 at 7:11pm
I think he has been the best english speaking commentator so far. I liked when after a good rally, he said "Ni hao ma! I'm very well, thank you." But sometimes he says some kinda nonsensical stuff. |
Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 01/10/2010 at 7:17pm
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i like matthew syed commentating cause in good points he also goes a bit berserk, and hes a former table tennis player too
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Posted By: zwu168
Date Posted: 01/10/2010 at 7:43pm
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they should get waldner to comment
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Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 01/10/2010 at 7:43pm
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"i like matthew syed commentating cause in good points he also goes a bit berserk, and hes a former table tennis player too" yeah, actually, he wasn't so bad. also, there was another brit doing the ittf shows a while back. i believe he was (or still is for all i know) the english nat'l team coach, uh, dan or don parker, i believe. now, he wasn't so bad either, and since he's a coach, he's not gonna be as clueless as these 2 guys are. if they just gotta have englishmen doing the commentary, then i'd rather have that coach and/or syed and also, i'd be interested in seeing 1 of those 2 with perhaps des douglas. it would be interesting to hear the thoughts of someone who was at the top of the game before, comparing how things were before with how they are now. now, that would make for some interesting commentary--much better than what we got this weekend. |
Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 01/10/2010 at 7:54pm
i wouldn't like that at all. although he's definitely knowledgeable, he just doesn't speak english all that well. i live in a city where there's a lot of non-native-english-speaking foreigners and i, for one, don't wanna turn on the tv and have to listen to crappy english, even if it's just for an hour or 2. it's rough enough listening to these native english-speaking, phlegmatic brits!! |
Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 01/10/2010 at 7:55pm
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in the kong vs waldner match 1999, stellan and don parker paired up to commentate. What i dont like about don parker, is that he says the exact same things, even now, like dan seemiller, always nit picking the technique in a few words like: "wonderful touch there by kong" "heavy backspin serve" "he lifted too much when there wasnt any" stellan just translated what waldners coach was saying to him, quite fascinating by all accounts. ------------- i lost my racquet Schlager u beast http://www.youtube.com/MDSguy" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/MDSguy |
Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 01/10/2010 at 8:06pm
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yeah, but coach parker and seemiller are not pro commentators. they're what you call "color commentators." they generally get paired up with pro commentators as to maintain a certain type of "flow," for lack of a better word. but i've heard parker a few times and he isn't all that bad. and i remember stellan bengtson and i remember how much i used to hate it. it's a shame--with the exception of des douglas, most of the great players of yesteryear are not native english speakers. |
Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 01/10/2010 at 8:18pm
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oh yeah i totally forogt the concept of colour commentators. So in tennis for example you have like an ex player commentating and then he gets piared up with some nut case who knows nothing about tennis but only reads scores and statistics? is this right example?
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Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 01/10/2010 at 8:55pm
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yes, and if the pro commentators are good, they end up asking a lot of good questions as a prompt for good answers from the "colors." they also ask some apparent "stupid" questions, but these questions need to be asked in order to educate all the noobs in the audience. for example, i watch a lot of tennis. and, as you know, they also have pros paired with colors. once, they were talking about the serve and volley game, or the lack thereof at wimbledon nowadays and one of the oldtimers there had the presence of mind to say that the only reason anyone did serve and volley at wimbledon or anywhere else was that the courts were so horrible that so as to avoid losing a point on a bad bounce, you rushed towards the net and took the ball in the air. but, since then, you've had advances in, say, "court construction," so now, if you have the money, you can make any kind of court you want and make the ball bounce however you want it to. so, the fact that players nowadays serve and volley less is not entirely due to better rackets, or better players, but also, and more importantly, better courts and, therefore, better bounces. |