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singody
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I do not think it is buyers' "fault", it seems buyers trust sellers who have three or at least two stars for member status. I sold a 729 focus III on Ebay during Christmas without any tracking number, the buyer had waited for three weeks in MA. I refunded him though I did have the postage receipt on that rubber. And I did not get the rubber back from USPS. Thus after that I just add tracking number on Ebay items and on most of expensive products for forum members, I am keeping all the receipts in hands for dealing with any trouble USPS causes. Some buyers asked me if I have the items in my hands or not before doing transactions. I think it is necessary for buyers, and it is more important to make sure the sellers are not selling items of third party. |
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derekho
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Always pay with PayPal goods, if the items you bought hasn't came in less than 45 days, file a dispute as item not received, then you will get a refund most likely.
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"the original post is preparing to ship the item out" means your item is somewhere between the continents not reach US yet perhaps still inside a transport ship . FYI,International shipment from the gray list / black list countries ( Post-Communist countries, extreme Islamic countries... ) to the US mostly being held a bit longer in US custom.
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tsanyc
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I vouch for Vlad. Excellent seller.
It just takes over 2 months to receive if you are in US. In my case, it took about 80 days. :)
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Less than 10 dollars without tracking and over 25 dollar with tracking in USPS.
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dalamchops
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yes it is the buyer's fault, you are using paypal's service and not following their Terms of Service, therefore you are by default forfeit your right to contest the payment. |
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steamer
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I did ask him Vladi do you have blade on hand? He said yes and i ask do you have recieve that you send to me? he said no
For me even i know Nittakuball and we trust each other anytime i or him ship we took picture recieve fro post office with the package stamp and send to a buyer even between me and Nittakuball. So in this case Vladi is a 3rd party never see the blade
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Imago
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meaning that the original post has sent the item abroad but, unlike all normal countries, where the Custom is after the Exchange Office, in USA, the Custom (or NSA, NCTC, ONDCP, FBI, etc), is BEFORE the USPS Exchange Office, so no communication from the exchange office will be released until the item has left the "Customs."
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assiduous
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What are you talking about? I have a contract with VladiTT, not with paypal. Even if I DID get my money from Paypal, VladiTT would still be the party at fault on the contract, as he did not deliver on his side! Focus! Dalamchops, send me $190 with paypal gift today, please. I promise to send u a blade. Then lets talk again 3 months later when u still have no blade, no tracking, no anything. You tell me what names u gona call me.
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sweetstrike
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Paypal makes their money through fees. If you've sold anything on ebay lately, both paypal and ebay combine to take about 15% of the total selling price in fees.
I personally don't see any problem with gift exchanges on the forum if you trust the person you are dealing with. Perhaps the lesson here is to buy locally and always get a tracking number. If you use USPS online to pay for your shipments, tracking numbers are free. |
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dalamchops
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LOL, actually, if you decide to use paypal, then u are using them as the middle man. You actually entered into an agreement with their terms of service when you signed up an account. I bet you wouldn't be complaining if you got your money back. AND i didn't call you any names, so you should stop making false accusations. |
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dalamchops
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EBAY takes about 12% of that. Using paypal will only cost u 2-4% and you can protection from fraud. |
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stiltt
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You did not read or understand his post right. He did not make any false accusations therefore he does not have to stop to make any since he never started in the first place. Please read the posts better next time and apologize to him since you accused him to make accusations he did not make. |
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dalamchops
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sure i misread, but then he's making a false assumption that i will call him names : )
maybe the mods need to read better too, because the forum is not following paypal's TOS by continuously allowing gift payment to take place. |
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stiltt
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We DO NOT recommend payments as gift. This always was my position. Paying as gift is dangerous.
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singody
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It is unnecessary to say that is buyer's fault, I think. It really hurts! Yes, buyers are sometimes gullible, but it is too much to say that is their fault, especially when the buyers feel sad about their transactions. Do not you think it is too mean for them, even you are reasonable? You might be cautious in any time and will never make mistake, but still, please be kind to the ones in situation. Edited by singody - 02/21/2013 at 6:53pm |
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liulin04
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and which is why having positive feedbacks from buyers/sellers will legitimize your status as a trustworthy person on this forum.
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Imago
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Bulgary is in Australia, if you don't mind
PP fees are above 6%, and they must be paid by the buyer, except when seller is a charity. So price has to be clearly differentiated
1. Net price asked
2. Shipping
3. Registered post with TN
4. Express mail
5. Insurance
6. PP fees
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Vihito
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Please tell me how you didn't send payment as gift for a rubber/blade and didn't receive a gift payment for rubber/blade.
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Imago
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Yes, everybody did, I also did. But I prefer to make it clear that PP fees are not included in the price so they have to be covered by the buyer. It is up to him/her to choose how to send the money - as Gift or as regular payment. The latter is much more difficult to calculate as PP say 3.4% but actually they charge 6.4%, esp when the sum-total is relatively high, so a second correction payment is due. Then we argue with the other side - I say, "I will cover the difference," he says, "No, I will cover it"...
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mhnh007
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I don't know if it helps, but I always write a comment what the money is for, even when I send as gift. Most of people here are not selling for profit, so it's hard for them to cover the fees when selling at bottom prices. And as a buyers you don't want to pay for the fee either. So if it involves a lot of money, I only deal with people I trust, or buy elsewhere.
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dalamchops
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Buyer should never think they have to pay extra for an item because of processing fees. That's called a surcharge and it's against Paypal's TOS AND illegal in certain states. Seller needs to account for the fees when they decide on a selling price.
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Doing transactions over online platforms/forums such as this always entails some risk and potential hassle if the transaction goes wrong. Shipping delays, lost items, stuff received is not as advertised etc. are some of the possible problems that potential buyers might have to deal with. If you think that getting good deals on TT equipment is not worth the risk then maybe buying from forums like this is not for you
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zolko798
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i made 1 deal with Vladi, all went well!
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extraSpin
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Vladi is an excellent member on this forum. Quick communication and prompt shipping has been my experience so far!
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stiltt
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I say we judge a member excellent when something goes wrong based on how he/she treats the problem.
So far, from that far to be excellent member, we get no communication; no explanation; no attempt to give us details; no work to contact the 3rd party and give us scans of the receipts (if there were any at some point)...nothing...How could that be excellent? I still did not receive any answer after asking what kind of partial or full refund he is thinking about; what he plans to do; what course of action is on the way on his part. I only see somebody hiding behind distance after a transaction gone awry, not being responsible of his poor selling practices. My question is: Where is the excellence? |
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extraSpin
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Fatt, my man, you make a great point. My views were from my interaction and transactions with Vladi. We seldom have things that go different from the expected output. How one handles these exceptions says a lot. I hope Vladi comes back to respond to some of the questions. |
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dingzii
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VladiTT is confirmed to be a bad guy.
He will give you a tracking number, but shipp nothing out. In the beginning, he will reply, but, after a while , He will not answer any email. I lost $360 to him. It is really a bad guy.
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Lestat
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I've got a few things to say about this.
1. VladiTT might or might have NOT send the blade out, regardless of how many successful transaction he has had with members in the past. Some people simply decide to pull a fast one every now and then, particularly when they have some good history to back them up. I'm not saying that's the case here - how could I know, but his history as a seller means the total sum of f***all with regards to this particular transaction. I also cannot be concerned with how well or quick he answers questions or provide explanations to this 'panel'. That does nothing to me either. I would rather judge him by the fact that, as a seller, he took advantage of the buyer's gullibility/naivety and wash his hands clean of this transaction. It is Steamer's responsibility as a buyer to make sure seller receives the money, and VadiTT's responsibility to make sure his buyer gets the goods. The fact that Paypal is foolproof and shipping is not - is the seller's problem. Say Steamer sent the money through post and envelope got lost - would you side with him if he expected VladiTT still has to ship the blade to him? I wouldn't think so. Which brings me to the second point. 2. Do not pay by paypal gift unless you are prepared to WRITE THE ITEM OFF in the event it goes missing. There are only a handful of select sellers who will abide by proper business principles. As for the rest, nobody in their right mind will refund you for items lost in the post if they don't have to! You have to force their hand and paying by paypal goods is your insurance policy. The buyer didn't buy insurance and tracking? What is this nonsense? You seller, factor that in when you price your shipping or support the loss if it gets lost in transit. It is YOUR problem. Even if you did buy insurance, I would expect to be refunded as soon as we can reasonably say it'd been lost, and then good luck with your compensation. You might be thinking 'I've got the money, I'm all right Jack', but it doesn't work like that. Not if I paid by Paypal goods. And a little story with a moral at the end: A few years ago I picked up a seller from ebay. He had access to 50% discount to a certain tool company. We agreed for me to give him a list with what I want, and I would pay him in advance some 65% of retail. Then he would go ahead and place the order, with the 15% difference being his 'finder's fee'. After emailing back and forth a few times I made a judgement call: he seemed like a decent fellow and I didn't think he was going to pull a fast one, so I went ahead and sent him the money through Paypal goods (although outside eBay). Turns out I was half right. He started off as an honest person, placed the order as agreed (I actually saw the invoice) but it was at this point when temptation got the better of him and he decided it would be too easy to just keep everything. He claimed he posted the lot to me but oddly enough, he couldn't produce a tracking no. After about 5 weeks I opened a Paypal case, it was of course decided in my favor but he managed to clean his Paypal account just before the resolution and Paypal could only recuperate a few pences. Had I gone through eBay, I would have been compensated in full. In any case, what he didn't foresee is Paypal will put his account in negative balance, then suspend it which means he'll never be able to open another Paypal account in his name. Moral of the story: seemingly decent people can flip to the dark side. Better not to give them the opportunity. Communication was excellent throughout by the way. One last thing: statistically speaking, in cases like this I'd say the chances for the seller simply not to post are a lot greater than the item actually being lost in the post.
Edited by Lestat - 08/05/2013 at 10:01pm |
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