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jonyer1980 
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Peter, would you consider it as a real alternative to T05? Do you think it could fit on a Violin/Acoustic, or is it a little bit slow on both?
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Jonyer, if you like to find Tenergy subtitute, Hexer is a good choice.
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Posted: 08/17/2010 at 1:29pm |
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Grip-S is a tacky style rubber. It does have more spin (yes tenergy fanboys) but does not have the same amount of speed. It is very durable also. |
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and what about boostering it? Have you ever tried it? Does it work as well as Tenergy?
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They even used standard Haifu packaging  Edited by prott.co.uk - 08/18/2010 at 7:04pm |
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Thaidog
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Posted: 08/18/2010 at 11:31pm |
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IMO there is no reason to. The factory tuning is easily enough for me if not too much already. Then again I'm not Samsonov. |
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Timo ALC FL
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Sallom89
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WTF!! I bought Grip-s, used it today in my training session and matches.. then came home and tried it on the robot. Been a long time user of SpinArt, probably used like 5 sheets and been loving it. On the other hand, Grip-S provided much stronger spin on loops and services.. and probably faster?! weird.. I need more time with it, I'm not sure if it is better than SpinArt in the short game though.
Any idea when will the top-sheet show marks? I get them on spinart on the first day.. and what about the tuning? how long does it last?
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both of my cpens are equipped with grip-s on the backhand. I've used grip-s for more than a year, and are loving them still. The rubber is particularly spinny when executing RPBs for me.
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You are exactly right on all counts.  |
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Sallom89
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I agree also that it have more spin.. and if you dig well into the sponge you may get the same speed 0.0
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Sallom89
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Not sure if chinese rubbers are good on RPB.. I've been trying Roundel Hard and Tenergy 05 FX, after removing old glue from the Tenergy it felt fresh again, not mushy like it was after moving it from blade to blade!
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I don't think Grip-S are chinese rubbers, are they?
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grip-s is definitely a chinese rubber. its slightly tacky and a bit slow to my liking. it loops well though. ie noticed that its pips are very short compred to other tibhar rubbers
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wow i didn't know that, i've been playing with chinese rubbers all this time and I had no clue, thanks!
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Posted: 06/07/2011 at 8:05pm |
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I've seen your RPB video before, it was toomuch brushing without the use of much sponge.. I'd like to see it now! please update us, I'm very interested to look at other's RPB techniques to gain experience!
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sure, i'll try to take some videos of myself playing over the weekend if possible...
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My sheet lasted a lot longer compared to my SpinArt sheet. I found the midrange spin a lot greater also. |
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Timo ALC FL
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Is there anyone here who has tried Grip-S and who has also tried Thor's?
I'd be most grateful to hear some comparisons. Edited by Anton Chigurh - 06/07/2011 at 9:16pm |
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Soon my friend! I'll have Thor's here in 2 weeks :D
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Anton Chigurh
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Awesome. I look forward to your thoughts.  |
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Spin is great with Grip-S, I just need to be sure if it is better for my game.. just because I'm looking for a 'better' subsitute to SpinArt, I've bought 3 Palio rubbers and Grip-S basically I'm replacing all my butterfly rubbers.. bought Omega IV pro to replace BTY T05 Fx, hope it go as planned on RPB.
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What blade are you using with Spinart and Grip-S?
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Sallom89
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I'm using Xiom V1. |
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thor's is spinnier and faster than grip-s.. thor's is also heavier.. grip-s is easier to counter loop than thor's
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Thanks yogi! |
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Anyone tried new Grip-s Europe or GS Europe Soft?
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I'm interested in hearing how Grip-S and SpinArt compare to Tenergy 05, and, I suppose, Thor as well. I understand the top sheet is different (sticky), but let me explain why that my be useful for me.
I use T05 on both side and other good playing conditions, it works really, really well. However, our club doesn't have air conditioning and it can get pretty humid in their (especially if there is a big rain storm outside). The T05 top sheet becomes slick under humid conditions, especially if it's not brand new. The more humid the air, the more slick the top sheet. I've had, in extreme circumstances, top spin balls fall off my paddle as if the paddle were wet (which is what humidity is, anyway). Last night wasn't so extreme, but it's still very frustrating to feel the ball sliding or not really gripping the top sheet. Of couse, you can dig further into the sponge, but this is mostly good for fast loops and there are times when it's desirable to play slow (light brush) spiny loops.
So I need something that acts like Tenergy but has a top sheet that won't lose traction in high humidity. I thought of SpinArt because it's supposed to combine the Spring Sponge with a tacky top sheet. Then I thought of Grip-S because it's supposed to be siminal to SpinArt. Then I thought of Thor just because of the quote above.
So: any comparisons? Any other suggestions?
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I could be wrong, but I think humidity will affect a rubber irrespective of "species" (i.e., tacky vs. grippy). Jason was playing in your club a while ago (using Thor's) and said his rubber was acting funny due to the humidity. Thor's is both moderately tacky and very grippy. I don't think you'd enjoy SpinArt, Ben, but again I could be wrong. It is indeed a "spring sponge" rubber, but it plays very differently from Tenergy, IMO. And the top sheet is marginally tacky at best. My guess--and again, I could be wrong--is that a thin layer of moister on your rubber (i.e., humidity) will alter its playing characteristics whether it's tacky, grippy, or whatever. (I'll be able to test Thor's soon at your place, since I plan on coming up shortly... if you'll have me.  ) |
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This last Thursday, I got so fed up with the slickness of my Tenergy that I borrowed a friend's paddle with Baraccuda. Same conditions, much slower and lighter paddle, but much improved spin (huge difference). When we've hosted tournaments, a few people show up with Tenergy. Those with Tenergy struggle a lot more with humidity. I don't know that a tacky top sheet would be better, but I need to find something. Depending upon humidity, I've felt that my rubber was playing from 80% capacity to 30% capacity. Oh, and we'd love to have you visit.
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