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lixiaoduo
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Pioneer
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What is that "#4 exacto blade " would you please post pics if possible?
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tsanyc
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becareful with the speed glue, it will expand sponge like crazy, after you do the perfect cut, then a reglue, the rubber becomes smaller.
my exp with T05 was like that.
Cutting part is easy. Put the rubber upside down, blade on the sponge, use a pen to trace the line. Use the utility knife cut on the line while the blade is still there, don't do it all the way. ... Becareful, don't cut the edge of the blade!!! the final step is to take a pair of sharp scissors and cut on the line.
Now you ready to glue, I recommend Yes! Paste. But it takes forever to dry One more thing, when cleaning the Yes! Paste off the blade, it might cause some wooden blade to change splinter, then you have to let dry and sand
Hope that helps
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mmerkel
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I have cut Boost TP with a knife. The blade is 3/4" high and segmented to break off the dull piece. I keep a very flat angle and use 3 to 4 strokes (depending on the fragility of the sponge).
The result was as good as with any other rubber EXCEPT two rubbers that have a sponge that likes to break apart: Optimum MP and Gambler Outlaw (2nd gen.) |
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can boost TC can be cut using blades? I once tried and ended up with rubber looking like a mess this time I dont want to take a chance so let me know your comments please .......
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Salloms way seems to be the best. I cut many rubbers using this technique (tenergy, stiga almana sound, pips out, all kinds of dhs and 729). You just have to have gentle hands, don't press too hard on the rubber, let it cut instead of tear. Also try getting a low angle with the table surface because the cutter blade will have more contact, cutting it gently. Water on the blade helps but form my experience saliva is way better than water. The cut is almost factory like. Another thing to keep in mind is that in order to cut clean at the edges of rubber sheet you must cut from outside into the rubber, otherwise it will stretch and tear.
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I use #4 exacto blade and get a very clean cut with 2 strokes. I wait 1 hour before cutting rubber to allow glue to set up hard. Anyone having difficulty with rough edge can use #400 grit sandpaper to smooth it out being careful not to sand the blade edge. There is no right way per say whatever works best for you.
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What all these tools for but nice cut eventually
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wkm1
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No video just 2 pictures, how you sand the rubber (above) and the result
I bet you can't get a better, straighter and cleaner cut with a knife scissor. |
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What about Vaseline ?
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nicefrog
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That's odd, but yeah water on the knife might do the trick, I guess a little couple of drops of baby oil or something to smoothen it wouldn't hurt either
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JKC
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That method works on every other sponge I have done too, but Calibra gets a few 1/2 cm tears in the sponge around the edge when you cut in this way. It seems to stick to the knife and pull. A friend suggested oiling or moistening the knife, I will be cutting some more in the next few days so may try it.
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No ?:) but it works the same on every other million sheets I've cut
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Was that on Calibra nicefrog? |
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I use a blade like the video above and a chopping board (nylon or plastic) but use a decent sharp 9mm box cutter blade one cut right round sssssss done the end, perfect as you want. Snap the blade to a new one each to you do a new rubber
Edited by nicefrog - 10/29/2010 at 6:41am |
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I guess it would be no problem if you went gentle the first few strokes.. before making the video I did cut 2x Tibhar sinus alpha, it was fine doing the same method also.. I think it works for every rubber, since I tried it from the softest (roundel soft, solcion) to the hardest (spinart, TG3, H3) works well.
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I would be interested to know if anyone has a way of cutting Calibra (or Sound) without making it look like they have chewed through the sponge. It you try to cut the sponge in one, you get 3 or 4 little tears in the sponge around the edge. If you take a few passes to cut through the sponge it shreds the edge. And yes I was using a very sharp knife.
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Mine? it was new and sharp.. the rubber is very hard and also porous.. no didn't cut any wood, removed some buildup glue which bothered my cutting path.
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the cutter is not sharp, a sharp cutter will cut in only 2 movement and looks like he cuts a chunk of wood also?
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Hahahhaha :D
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in spite of being jealous, I should agree with you
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shakepender
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yes... sallom's method (per his video clip) is the sensible way to do it... and the finish is very good too.
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me too I don't think I would be able to do it, because I'm afraid to sabotage the rubber and it's expensive, so I go for my scissors, but I think one day I will put a rubber at risk and try cutting by cutter, hope I don't regret that
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Yes, similar blade... he just did it in 2 to 3 quick movements but he would be doing this a few times a day. I don't think I would be able to do it... the finished outcome was perfectly smooth & even.
No, he doesn't charge for cutting & gluing if you buy from his shop.
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flexible blade like sallom89's in his video ? the really issue here that it makes scratches to the table even it's a glass one ... and by the way, did he charge you for cutting ?
Edited by Pioneer - 10/27/2010 at 6:48pm |
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Sorry to post this again (this time the video, not the thread).. because it seems that many people need to see it.
Edited by Sallom89 - 10/27/2010 at 9:05am |
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The guy in the shop that I bought my tt blade and rubbers from in Taiwan used a quite flexible blade to cut round the tt blade in 2 to 3 quick large movements whilst turning the tt blade at the same time... over a glass table top. The blade of the knife was bent with only the cutting part against the tt blade. Of course... he does this a few times a day! The rubber is slightly over the wooden edge of the tt blade.
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The only problem is getting started by the handle because the handle is in the way.
Totally agree with you
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I used an exacto knife in the past but the cuts were rough in places where I had to go over the same spot more than once or the scissors were cutting through pips. I use scissors now. Scissor make a nice smooth cut. The only problem is getting started by the handle because the handle is in the way. When cutting I make short cuts using the most efficient part of the scissors and I follow the profile of the blade.
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I think to outline then cut the rubber is more difficult than glue and cut, as it needs a steady hand
and after gluing the rubber becomes stretched and that will increase the margin ...
Edited by Pioneer - 10/26/2010 at 1:00pm |
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