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Xiom Zetro Quad Blade Review |
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JimT
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I wonder how the ZQ compare to the Ignito, or Strato, or even Axelo...
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bluebucket
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Fatt changes blades more often than I change my undies and will continue to do so because he buys the same kind of blade everytime. The last 100 have almost been identical other than the writting on them. I would say its time for a radical change :). Go crazy and buy a willow 3 ply or something!
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dual700
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ZQ is slower than Ignito. ZQ has more dwell time and stiffer feeling to me. But the thicker hinoki somehow makes zq softer to the touch, while Ignito just a bit too bouncy to my taste. |
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jt99sf
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April 1st was Monday...
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Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)
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Seriously I agree with you: all the blades I like are fast, relatively stiff, not hard like a rock, 5 or 7 plies, between 84 and 93 grams...so it's time to stop the madness. The XZQ does it all though and that's what triggers my decision: I never had a blade that can unite all what I felt and said about all the other ones in the same class.
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Yeah, I ordered the lightest available at 89 to 90 gram zetro quad. The blade feels light but the weight of the setup comes from the two max m1. But i pretty much like it. |
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Who said a picture is worth a thousand words? I'd believe you with those better than with a picture or even a test! I received my new XZQ this morning and, if enough pictures of the ZQ have been taken, I still wanted to play with the 1cm macro function of that relatively cheap ($175 refurbished) Pentax X5 camera. Notice the plastic badge "Made in China" on the back of the handle. |
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stiltt
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The outer plies are so thick! I wonder if they will come with a "ZQ light" offering thinner ones.
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bluebucket
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I wish I had a Matsush*ta pro, nice trade!
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stiltt
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everything I own (tt blades related) is gone for 2 xzq and 2 matsush*ta pro; the last trade will be about a matsush*ta pro for a matsush*ta pro: i have st and fl now and will decide later what's best for me to let go so I have the same handles. FL always was my preference.
After a robot session with the zq tonight (m2/m3 2mm) I feel like the switch to LP on the bh is pushed 10 years ahead. Feeeling optimistic right now....
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Snakefish
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First impressions:
The look & craftsmanship of this blade sure doesn't ring "made in China". If not for the label, most of us would say Made in Japan.
Played with this new blade setup for 2 hrs on the weekend. Felt really good & comfortable in the hand. The Omega 4 Europe rubber was more bouncy than the Calibra LT. The soft sponge of 4 Europe was just right for this blade, bh loops & flicks were easy. Blocks had good feel & stayed on the table. Very good control. The Calibra LT though not as bouncy, still gave ample power & spin. It's mostly higher throw. One thing that stood out was no feeling for the pushes & underspin serves. I know this happens to me whenever I use a new blade & rubbers for the first time. My feel should get better the more I play with this. I thought the hinoki outer ply would help me get more feel, but not that much.
More impressions later.......
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dashmista
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First impressions after 2 hours of play:
It's got the solidness of a Gergely with the looping ability of a TB ZLF (well, not quite that loopy, but pretty damn close). It gives great control and feel for close table low-medium gear swings. When you step back and rip a few, the zylon fibers kick in and you access a new level of looping ability. Maybe I'm crazy, but I actually felt like I was getting more topspin on my loops than with my Viscaria. So far so good, will play again tomorrow.
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stiltt
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BTW the Matsush*ta Pro is so freaking beautiful (your pm is full).
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dashmista
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Woops just cleared my inbox. Glad you like the MPS - there is no better modern defender blade. But yea, the ZQ really is great as far as I can tell. As an added bonus my rubbers transferred smoothly from the Viscaria, they seem to be roughly the same size / shape.
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cmetsbeltran15
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US ~2200 practice partner tried it last night, loved it in every way, prefers it over ALC, Mizutani, and TB ZLC. Longer review to come.
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stiltt
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JimT is trying it tonight; let's see what he thinks.
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gatz
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http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj225/gatz143/xiomblades.jpg
I have this 3 blades and i will compare each one of them. Xiom Hayabusa zxi, Zetro Quad and Stradivarius: The stiffest among the three is the stradivarius no feeling at all. time out be back right away!
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Blade: ZJ SZLC, Garayda 5000 Matador Texa
Rubbers: FH::Symmetry SP BH: Tenergy Hard, FH: MoristoSP ax BH: Tenergy Hard,FH:Desperado 2 BH: Omega 7 Asia |
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jt99sf
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Which one are you selling?
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Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)
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Raden
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Compared to Adidas Fibertec Power, ZQ had very similar playing characteristics except it had a little better control but felt a lot softer. However, it's not too soft like some 7-ply wood blade that have a lot of vibration. Whenever, I pick up one of those 7 plys, they feel great and I play very well at first but then I lose feedback on my exact contact point, due to the vibration, and my play always goes downhill. The Zetro's soft feel doesn't get in the way of that feedback.
To me, a lot of other blades are good for dating but the Zetro Quad is the one I should have married a long time ago. |
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igszoctan
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Could somebody who have tried both blades compare ZQ with Hayabusa ZXi , please?
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igszoctan
Fh: Rasant PowerGrip (2.1) Blades: Appelgren Allplay Bh: Rasant Powersponge(1.9) Feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=66928&PID=807706 Strength and honour |
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JimT
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Well, I played a bit with ZQ. It is a great blade - one of the best I ever played with. Highly recommended!
And despite all that - I will be trading it soon. Why? Because I already have three blades which are more or less identical to it. Namely, BBC X-Fusion. Granted in some aspects they are slightly different. But all in all these two blades are incredibly close to each other in everything - starting from construction to thickness, flex, speed, control, outer wood type etc etc. Still, I repeat it. Liked it a lot - especially with faster, relatively firm (harder sponged) rubbers. Tried Tibhar Aurus and Xiom Omega IV Asia on it - very good combo. Same goes for GD Karate Soft or Sword Backpff 42 deg on FH, Palio Blitz on BH. Finally there is a blade that I can use as a reference when people ask me "what does your X-Fusion play like?" Many thanks to fatt and others. |
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Imago
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ZQ is faster, stiffer, less control, no feeling and no catapult. ZXi is so far the best composite blade out there for a RC 2000 player and beyond.
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igszoctan
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Thanx Imago, You have just saved me some bucks :) By the way, I couldn't imagine a blade suits me better than the haunting falcon (=Zxi) |
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igszoctan
Fh: Rasant PowerGrip (2.1) Blades: Appelgren Allplay Bh: Rasant Powersponge(1.9) Feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=66928&PID=807706 Strength and honour |
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Snakefish
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2nd impressions:
Did 5 hrs of practice on the past weekend. Just as I thought, the feel is much better on push strokes . The more I use/play, the better feel. Could be the rubbers too. Blocks are still good, but I wish there was a little more absorption feel. Counter hitting on bh is a pleasure. But fh counterhitting in games, the ball goes a little longer, most likely the Calibra LT rubber doing this. FH loops are amazing. High arcs, higher throw are so easy. FL handle is really comfortable in my hand.
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Andro Treiber Z - fl
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andy.h
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Can someone compare it to Photino? Also, how is this blade with soft rubbers?
I currently play with BTY Primorak / Rakza 7 Soft on FH / Xiom Vega Europe BH. Now, as I am learning to play a few steps away from the table I feel I can use a faster setup, so I was looking at this blade or Photino while keeping same rubbers. Any thoughts? |
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pak abu
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I would like to know the different between Xiom ZQ with Nittaku Barwell if anyone have tried these two blade. Now I have one 88g Xiom ZQ.. but would like to try the Barwell as well.. Which one has more dwell? Thanks for the thought.
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ttping85
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wow these blades have basically almost nothing common...dwell is longer for barwell.
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