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Giant Dragon Superspin G3 Hard review |
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topspinschuss
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Oh good. I actually hope that the black one you break out is also tacky. :) That would at least be a sign of consistency. Black: Tacky Red: not so tacky Let us know about your results.
If all black SS G3 Hard rubbers are tacky, then this rubber would be more than a great alternative to factory-tuned tacky rubbers like blue whale 2.
By the way...I read on the Korean Double Dragon website (via web translation) that the factory tuning is some special tuning that is supposed to last for the life of the rubber. If true, that would be great! I guess we'll see in a few weeks or months how long the tuning lasts.
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conradsong
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Okay, my friend. I have the results... So first off let me say, that I think the majority of this issue is semantics, that is: grippy vs tacky vs sticky. I think when you say tacky, I say grippy. And when I say tacky, you'll probably say sticky. Please understand also that I'm coming from TopENERGY and TaiChi rubbers and looking at SuperSpin G3.
Now with that said, I opened a black sheet, and (mind you this was new rubber), it held the ball a bit longer than the red, even after running it through a few cleanings. But I actually have a one month sheet of SuperSpin G3 Hard in red that still picks up the ball, if only for a fraction of a second.
Now here's the catch. On the TaiChi, Karate, TopENERGY, and SuperSpin G3 rubbers, if you press and pinch down on the rubber then try to let go, it actually does pinch back... like a grip. I believe this is the manufacturer's G.A.T. effect. Other rubbers like H3 Neo, Sriver and Outlaw do not do this for sure.
However, if you simply slide your finger or a ball across the rubber without pressing into it, the topsheet of SuperSpin G3 has noticably less friction that even say the Karate rubbers. This is what I consider tack. To give you an idea, TopENERGY fresh out the package, which has both G.A.T. and heavy tack, can not only pick up the ball, but the ball can literally roll down the sheet of the rubber upside down!
Ultimately, I don't want this discussion to get overblown and turn into an argument and really take away from the review. Everything topspinschuss has shown is true and holds water, it also agrees with martian22's initial impressions and others. The black is a little more tacky/grippy whichever you prefer -- I think it's the G.A.T. topsheet effect.
The tuning is indeed supposed to be more permanent, I really don't know how long it will last. I'm not a heavy power player, but it's lasted one month so far.
Edited by conradsong - 02/23/2011 at 11:34pm |
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martian22
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Some very good points made there conrad. I suppose some peoples take on grippy vs tacky is slightly different. But to be honest, it doesnt really matter all to much, this topic was created to test all aspects of a rubber, and not just the feel of the topsheet.
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conradsong
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Agreed. Beyond this, the only thing coming shortly down the pipe will be a factory tuned short pips, 612 Turbo, and a new long pips, Dragon Talon.
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martian22
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Giant dragon will be a big hit with their new rubbers, the quality for the price is great. Oh, and sign me up for testing the short pips conrad
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JimT
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Tacky/sticky means "sticky" as in holds the ball upside down like a glue... grippy means just grippy in terms of something that affects considerable friction when being dragged against another object (ball).
By the way, Conrad... still no GD balls in your catalogue? I liked them a lot. |
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martian22
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Ok ive played with the rubber for another few hours, and I must say, Its a great rubber!
I havent experienced any of this loss of spin that other testers have, And brush-loops and loop drives are almost as spinny as with my H3. Surprisingly, this rubber is quite good at chopping, even with a 2.2mm sponge, as long as you have a decent technique. Pushes are very controlled, and serves can be returned short with a lot of spin. Serving is also one of the rubbers strong points, and I find it easy to do a wide variation of length and spin. More to come.
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thethinker
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I think this rubber just fine after broken in. Great spin with my soft version, very soft. I would trade for a hard version out of curiosity.
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martian22
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I agree. It took some time to break in, but it really is a great rubber for a great price aswell. Giant Dragon should hopefully get more attention with this new rubber. I'd still like to continue reviewing my hard sheet, but I will eventually like to trade, Im sure other testers would like to trade aswell.
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Taffer
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I mounted up a red SuperSpin G3 (soft) today. The factory applied glue on the sponge stuck to cured rubber cement very well. I was concerned that it would only work with water based glue. It seems to be fine, but I'll know more after I play with it tomorrow.
As to the "tacky/grippy" debate, I'd vote grippy, not very tacky. (fresh out of the package...never cleaned). I really like Karate and I'm looking forward to playing with SSG3 tomorrow, since it sounds like it will be a step up in performance. |
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I'm using GD Superspin G3 SOFT (red package). This is an absolutely amazing Chinese rubber. Lightly tacky *VERY* soft feel and an enormously strong catapult effect, good speed and tremendous spin. This is the first Chinese rubber product that comes very close real speed glued rubbers. This is a pure topspin machine with great feel.
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martian22
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Ok, so I've had G3 for a little while now and thought I should update this thread.
Most points have been covered in this topic, but theres 1 more important point to discuss, and that is the durability of this rubber. And overall, the durability is great. After about 3-4 weeks the tuning died down a bit, as expected, but all other aspects remain the same. Spin, speed and physical appearance have all held out well, especially for the price. So if your looking for a cheaper alternative to euro tensors then give G3 a try!you wont be disappointed!
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PingPongHolic10
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Are the testing rubbers for G3(hard/soft) still in circulation? |
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JimT
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I'll check at home but I think I sent it to another guy already.
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seguso
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How high is the throw? Where would you put this rubber in the following list (sorted from higher to lower throw)?
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NextLevel
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Can Rubber Cement be used to glue this rubber? I don't have VOC free glue at the moment...
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This obviously depends a lot on your stroke, as for me this list should almost be in reverse... to me the Chinese tacky rubbers have higher throw than the non-tacky rubbers there... the Globe 999 probably the highest on the list. |
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NextLevel
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I'm a 1200 player (and rapidly improving) and I think the Superspin G3 Soft is my preference. I guess the hard would be the preference of Chinese style loopers, but even though I have a Chinese stroke, I wanted something that tended to handle my errors better so the soft worked better. I like putting fast spinny rubbers on slower blades so I can get the spin without going off the deep end on the speed. I tried doing fast blades with slow spinny rubbers but those don't work as well. The Defensive blades also have bigger heads and I have bigger hands - a match made in heaven.
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NextLevel
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I now realize that I spoke in haste - there seems to be a difference in feel between the black and the red surfaces which I confused with being the difference between the soft and the hard. I really don't think the differences in softness/hardness are significant enough to go with the hard unless you like more dwell time, like I do, where the soft works better. In any case, red is the color to go with.
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