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mrdoodzki
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Posted: 03/13/2012 at 6:38am |
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another topic to annoy those who do get annoyed
seriously, this is also important for me.... you can see what sp im using, for a while i thought it was the fastest but just not sure right now. help guys |
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Blade -- Stiga Clipper
FH -- DHS Hurricane 3 BH -- Japtec Experience HAPPINESS is....sometimes no words, just the sound of a ball |
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stefashka
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The fastest I tried was Andro Hexer Pips+ vertically aligned.
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Darker 7P-2A CP - Dignics 09c, TSP Curl P3α
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the_theologian
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oh dang, you're only moments away from an iconattack
an ultra common question and in the wrong forum section? yowsa anywho, look here: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=43878&PID=544248 I've only tried a few short pips, Air Panamera is very fast
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Appelgren Allplay ST / Vega Europe max
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mrdoodzki
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what about the flarestorm and raystorm?
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Blade -- Stiga Clipper
FH -- DHS Hurricane 3 BH -- Japtec Experience HAPPINESS is....sometimes no words, just the sound of a ball |
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gatz
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For me the TSP spectol is one of the fastest sp but you need to execute the proper timing.
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Rubbers: FH::Symmetry SP BH: Tenergy Hard, FH: MoristoSP ax BH: Tenergy Hard,FH:Desperado 2 BH: Omega 7 Asia |
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AcudaDave
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flarestorm II is definitely one of the fastest. I've used TSP Spinpips, Spectol, Raystorm, 802-40, Flarestorm, Flarestorm II, Pistol, tornado ultra, and Diamant all in 2.0 mm, but have recently tried Joola Express Ultra and have to say this is one of the fastest. These pips don't produce much disturbing or sinking effect, but they have a higher throw than Spectol, Raystorm, and Flarestorm and are much easier to play with. I would say they are probably about the best SP I've ever played with. My daughter played with Raystorm and Spectol in 2.0 and max on her FH and kept hitting every 3rd or 4th ball into the net. After playing 1 time with Ultra Express in max she hits 20 or more in a row with no problem. What an amazing difference! She is much happier with them and will stick with them.
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Joola Zhou Qihao 90 blade
Joola Dynaryz Inferno max - BH Nittaku Moristo SP 2.0 - FH |
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icontek
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*iconattack initiated*
After seeing all of my post-corrections since you joined last year: Why would think you could get away with posting an Equipment Question in the General Forum? |
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icontek
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Moved to Equipment Forum
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mrdoodzki
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sorry icontek, i never intend to post on the wrong forum category, i just start a thread whenever something pops out in my mind and never give thought to the forum category
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Blade -- Stiga Clipper
FH -- DHS Hurricane 3 BH -- Japtec Experience HAPPINESS is....sometimes no words, just the sound of a ball |
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TTeveryday
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Hammond FA is quite fast!
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GeneralSpecific
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Well, Spectol 21 offensive sponge is the most commonly known fastest short pips.
I do however wonder how fast the Yasaka Rakza P.O is... http://www.presports.com/yasaka-rakza-po-rubber-pimples-out-p-1921.html |
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Blade - Xiom 36.5 ALX FL
Forehand - Xiom Omega V Asia 2.0mm Backhand - Victas Curl P5V with Der Materialspezialist Firestorm Soft/Outkill 1.8mm sponge |
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Jonan
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I was fairly disappointed with Spectol speed sponge, I found it slower than Flarestorm and hard to use, Flarestorm at least had a lower throw angle. It might be the different blade I have it on, but I like short pips with soft sponges, Nittaku Moristo SP on my blade at least, is quite fast but I can retain the touch I need and I'm pretty happy with it. Maybe they work better on the backhand than the forehand, or harder blades.
Acudadave, how soft is the joola express? |
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GeneralSpecific
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Speed sponge and offensive sponge are 2 different things. I recommended offensive sponge. Speed sponge is only good if speed glued. Other than that it is hard and dead. |
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Blade - Xiom 36.5 ALX FL
Forehand - Xiom Omega V Asia 2.0mm Backhand - Victas Curl P5V with Der Materialspezialist Firestorm Soft/Outkill 1.8mm sponge |
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Jonan
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I had to dig out the package, but it's the 21 Offensive sponge, so...I dunno. Probably not suited for an blade like a Firewall. Was thinking of pulling it and my Globe 888 (which I love in my brief hit btw) and putting it on my Hurricane No.2 blade, which is harder. |
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GeneralSpecific
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Oh I see. Yeah maybe try that. I'm still interested in how that Rakza P.O plays though
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Blade - Xiom 36.5 ALX FL
Forehand - Xiom Omega V Asia 2.0mm Backhand - Victas Curl P5V with Der Materialspezialist Firestorm Soft/Outkill 1.8mm sponge |
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mrdoodzki
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they have this?? short pips with tenergy-like sponge??? I MUST HAVE IT!!!!!!!!!!! |
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dalamchops
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been around. Hexer pips |
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mrdoodzki
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is this already common? i min sp with tenergy like sponge? what other short pips are like that? does butterfly have that kind of short pipz?
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Blade -- Stiga Clipper
FH -- DHS Hurricane 3 BH -- Japtec Experience HAPPINESS is....sometimes no words, just the sound of a ball |
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an800player
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TSP, look no further!
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mrdoodzki
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tsp SPs are not really fast...
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FH -- DHS Hurricane 3 BH -- Japtec Experience HAPPINESS is....sometimes no words, just the sound of a ball |
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bbkon
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i dont think ITTF will allow a short pips that feels and work like t05 |
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Imago
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Keep this attitude for your GF.
Ooops, I remember a Stiga Clippa was very fast
Edited by Imago - 03/26/2012 at 4:24am |
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mrdoodzki
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is there a specific ittf rule for that? |
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mrdoodzki
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i dont think so... last i heard clippa is a classic short pips, meaning its not one of the fastest anymore. im looking for short pips with tensor sponge, same as xtend po and rakza po..if you guys are going to tell me flarestorm or raystorm...last i heard they have the same sponge property as bryce. meaning they are fast but still do not utilize the a tenergy-like sponge, which is what i'm looking for |
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bbkon
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ITTF is discouraging short pips players, like the "rule" that forbid pips shorter than 1mm , there wasnt a rule ITTF just did it, urban rule..actually there is no appoved short pip under 1mm , that s why the modern 802 pips are taller..several pips were banned without a rule to back that not even the equipment guys of the ITTF knew why,i know many will not believe it, members of the about forum mailed ITTF and this was the response back then |
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mrdoodzki
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yet they still made a short pips with a tenergy sponge, in the form of rakza PO
i just hope butterfly will someday make a short pips like that... Edited by mrdoodzki - 03/26/2012 at 6:48am |
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icontek
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that fastest short pips are 802 on a sponge separately hand tuned with VOC-free booster (before attachment to maintain legality) and less than 4mm total .
the only question is, without stretching the topsheet, would it offer enough advantage? |
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AcudaDave
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try Joola Ultra Express...they have built-in speed glue effect and are very fast. I've played with Raystorm, Flarestorm, Flarestorm II, and some of TSP's SPs like Spector and Ultra Express are about the best. Fast with higher throw and good spin capabilities for a SP.
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Joola Zhou Qihao 90 blade
Joola Dynaryz Inferno max - BH Nittaku Moristo SP 2.0 - FH |
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ituning.technology
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In my opinion, JOOLA Express Ultra with max sponge, it has a built-in glue effect and pops when hitting it right on the sweet spot.
The TSP ones are pretty good too. not as fast but more controlled.
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