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PLLsystem
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Posted: 05/01/2013 at 10:40am |
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We have been developing a special soft & bio carbon solution for exploiting advantages of carbon without suffering of disadvantages. We are on the right track, tested etc. and now it is ready for testing. Well who wants to participate pls follow our facebook site or like that article
Also interested in your opinion what do you think about blades included carbon. Pros and cons? |
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AndySmith
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Wow. OSP using carbon? I never thought I'd see the day!
I'm imagining a Virtuoso Carbon now... Think I might swap my car for one. :-) |
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Thomasson
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Oh yes, I switched to OSP not to long ago but already ordered more after my first hit.
Would love to check this out!! |
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derekho
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I'm interested in testing!
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I would love to be a tester too... for some reason I can't get on Facebook right now. I have 11 different OSP blades already, so I have a lot of basis for comparison.
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elfanta
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wow, it would be nice to test that, but I do not have the time for that, but wow, good news!!
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bluebucket
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My thoughts are there is already a good range of carbon blades in the world that you won't be able to improve on. What there are very few of is good Allround blades. There's a better market for a blade slower and slightly less flexible than the expert. That's the obvious hole in the range for me. A carbon will be interesting, I just don't think its possible to improve on the butterfly soft carbons or something like stigas v1 in a hard carbon
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Imago
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Like Stiga ACC which somehow is an amalgamation of the old Stiga feel and new composite technologies.
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barnie
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Totally agree with bluebucket. I miss the stiffer allround blade from OSP in the range all+ to off-. Virtuoso is clear off and expert is too flexible. Sorry for the off topic
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emihet
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would also like to test this blade
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Thomasson
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I think the way you guys think is kind of narrow.. So because there are already good carbon blades, people should stop trying to make better ones?
I bet you guys still drive cars with wooden wheels, cause wooden wheels already worked fine.. "Standing still is the fastest way of moving backward in a rapidly changing world" |
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mercuur
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Unfortunately the old always tends to dress itself with newest clothes.
But when he thinks he can make better use of carbon with some bio stuff instead of epoxy why not ? The problem with epoxy is that it seals wood and that,s bad for resonance between plies. I once made a few blades using boneglue or hideglue for making the composite layers instead of epoxy amd it wasn,t that bad. He could do something like that or use some other bio-stuff instead of epoxy. Or maybe something completely different. That,s the fun of making blades. Most newer carbon blades use newer more flexible epoxies. That,s nice, more elastic, less ping aso. But the resonance stays poor (shallow feeling) because wood layers still loose their open character no matter how soft the epoxy. Also the carbon is on the core so the outerply to second ply both sides is"as usual". This wil preserve lots of the delicate touch. Edited by mercuur - 05/03/2013 at 5:24am |
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PLLsystem
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No way :) I am sure you can test one.
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tiehwen
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I for 1 would love to have my hand on one OSP Carbon or try 1 in the future. I can't imagine there's anything out there better than or closed to both of my V's (Virtuoso & V Plus) which possess the sweet feeling. The +, to me, is just a little tad faster but control/feeling, imho, is almost the same.
I hope the "OSP C" will not lose the unique feeling of like both of my V's have but has better feeling than the 7 plied wooden Ultimate/Musko... The ideal OSP C hopefully would have the power of any good Carbon blades yet with the feeling/control of the 5 plied OSP V/V+. Oops....did I just repeat myself few times?
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Don't speak too soon. You haven't seen my car: Ping Pong Car ;-) |
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Peter C
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A slightly thicker Expert with two added soft carbon layers would strike me as an interesting blade.
Are there any clues as to what type of OSP blade the two carbon layers would be in? |
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mercuur
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http://forum.tt-news.de/showthread.php?p=2417419#post2417419
http://forum.tt-news.de/attachment.php?attachmentid=39646&d=1367429283 Here it has pictures including sideview but needs to log in there to see them. The pictures show an ayous core surrounded with carbon. Probably ayous medial plies with limba outerply. Medial plies are approximately twice the thickness of the outerplies or thicker. Roughly same build as stiga classic carbon allround it looks. Edited by mercuur - 05/04/2013 at 5:09am |
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For those who can't see the pics on the german forum here we go:
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Thomasson
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Another master piece, hope the blade comes with my personal beloved Stiga Master handle though :p
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tiehwen
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Very interesting...the Carbon is sandwiched way down btwn 2nd & mid plies.
Reminds me of the ALC layers of my IF ALC...
Edited by tiehwen - 05/07/2013 at 11:44am |
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bluebucket
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It's the OSP version of the Stiga Allround carbon, seems near identical. Imago the plys are the same? at least the OSP version will have the epic SQ ST handle
Edited by bluebucket - 05/07/2013 at 11:23am |
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Edited by tiehwen - 05/07/2013 at 2:33pm |
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Lovely blade. What do you think of creating a version with balsa in the center? Limba+limba+carbon+balsa+carbon+limba+limba I love the feeling of Waldner dotec carbon, and Innerforce T5000. I think you could make a similar version of the two, with a magical touch of OSP, of course. |
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Thomasson
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Really looking forward to try this one out!
Ps. Wouldn't it be more like the Offensive Classic Carbon instead of the Allround Classic Carbon? Since the Virtuoso is faster then OC, I expect carbon versions to be faster aswell. I personally like the Virtuoso more in every aspect then the Stiga OC though. Edited by Thomasson - 05/15/2013 at 5:51am |
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i would say it would be closer to Waldner Senso Carbon because of the placement of the carbon around the core
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It looks like it's not the classic carbon in that blade. More like it's mixed with kevlar/aramid etc.
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Can you tell us it's composition please!!! 7 layers, 5 wood & 2 carbons of Limba outer vennier and Limba, Kiri or Koto??? Thanks...
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We are flood of test requests. Unfortunately we had to limit the number of blades for testing but 4-5 blades will be sent out soon for the first candidates. Testers should test the blades for a week and then send to the next tester.
Edited by PLLsystem - 05/17/2013 at 1:42pm |
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