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stiltt 
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He he http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47732&PID=690413&title=new-xiom-hayabusa-blades#690413
Here we see it at the bottom of the handle because the top koto ply is vertically aligned. Tx andy |
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the_theologian
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Posted: 11/04/2013 at 11:42pm |
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we know better, don't we Andy
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Appelgren Allplay ST / Vega Europe max
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well, I'm in... $51.58 shipped w/ current exchange rate. ordered a ST
astounding price given what megaspin is asking
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hey btw where is this blade made?
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Posted: 11/05/2013 at 12:28am |
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what rubbers will go well with this blade? any ideas?
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Posted: 11/05/2013 at 6:14am |
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I got one today. ST handle, 73 gr! Blades I use are 85 to 90 gr, so I won't play with it. Let me know if anyone's interested.
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73g..dang it's so light & almost as light as that last Andro Super Core Carbon LIGHT, 70g or something which I tried & I didn't like it at all..
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Why no picture of the blade face... I want to see the top ply, to see how quality of the Hinoki used.
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Unfortunately I won't try it. I have no negative perception. The problem here is; when i play with significantly lighter or heavyier blades, my shoulder or elbow hurts for 2-3 sessions at least and i don't want to go in to that trouble. 18 grams will really make a differencce. I am also open for offers if anyone has a Straight handle with 84~88 gr weight.
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
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Posted: 11/05/2013 at 12:09pm |
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the 2 first pics are made with auto focus from a foot or so; the other are taken with the macro function, 2 or 3cm away from the blade (as close as possible so the lens does not shadow the point of focus).
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Very nice pics Fatt. Thank you for sharing. The top ply looks nice, with even and dense wood grain. I would seal it though.
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Posted: 11/05/2013 at 12:58pm |
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+1 fatt, man that hinoki looks sexy
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Posted: 11/05/2013 at 1:10pm |
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I'm good as I've a special immunity against this Emotion as John on the other end manages to keep my focus off this "Emotion" with his hidden gems he hasn't shown us all.
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The quality is really good for the price. ST handle is smooth and comfy.
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if you are willing, please post a pic of the st handle
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See here;
http://www.sundns.org/discuz/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=305435 |
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This is how I seal the Hinoki blade. Just rub hard with the palm of your hand to get rid of those tiny wood pores(?), spray with water base sealant, then use the credit card to spread the sealant around, give it some time (10-15 seconds) to soak in, then scrape the excess sealant off the blade. Let it dry. You will have a nice, even, thin sealant. You may not even see the sealant unless you look at it at the angle. Sometime I give it a second coat depending on how soft the Hinoki ply is. Remember too thick sealant WILL destroy the characteristic of the Hinoki feel. Edited by mhnh007 - 11/05/2013 at 2:48pm |
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Ordered one @88 gr. Perfect weight for me.
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so apparently, this blade is woodier than a TBS and slower as well.
Any advantages of this blade over a popular $50 - $75 wood blade?
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Better sweet spot and great short game.
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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Why spending $130 in an innerforce alc blade when one can have a good $65 fast all wood like the Xiom Aria?  If I was forced to answer your question with something that makes sense and that favors the Rossi Emotion over all-wood performing blades with the same speed and control ratings, I would say the soft carbon adds structural integrity without making the blade overly fast and hard; the thin top hinoki ply with the harder koto ply underneath tames the soft carbon sandwiching the softer than kiri ayous core; it is a mellow innerforce closer to to the all wood in behavior; it has all advantages of the innerforce series and all wood blades at the same time and it costs only $50. Your question is shaking the whole industry; why spending $50 to get the same or better performance than a innerforce almost 3 times more expensive when we can have an all wood blade at the same $50 price or $25 more...? I don't get it. |
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Yep, from Tim and asked him before ordering. |
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No, my question wasn't Innerforce vs RE: it was RE vs a similar priced all-wood blade. I'm trying to find out to whom the blade caters to. Your answered most of my queries (thanks for that) but here's why I asked - no need to answer that again as I'm just responding to your "I don't get it". Basically: I get it why a big set of (genuine, non-EJ) players would pay up for TB-ALC / IF-ZLC / Viscaria / what have you over the RE: they either are very good / fast from at the table or prefer to play at mid-distance with powerful strokes. Mind you, I'm not talking about Innerforce ALC - while I have played with that blade, I haven't played enough to comment as much as you. I have played with another IF all-wood like blade a lot - the LSW. However, I'd put the performance of that blade more like the Viscaria from mid-distance (now, I think that it is faster than my TBS from there because of its flex) while remaining woody from at the table. This is not what the RE apparently strives to be. The blades from the IF series that I've played with extensively - LSW, IF-ZLC and IF-ZLF all have large catapault from mid-distance and are flexy. So, that is their application / use. But, apparently, this has neither as it does not have much flex. From the descriptions of many members here, it seems that RE caters to a different set of players & perhaps offers similar spin & speed characteristics as many all-wood blades in that $50 - $75 range. Again: I'm unsure and hence my genuine question: if RE truly is a bit like a fast Primorac or Korbel or a lighter Clipper wood, then what characteristics of that blade make it better than those all-wood blades. But yes, at $50 both RE and more importantly timtts.be should be declared big winners. Edited by slevin - 11/07/2013 at 5:27pm |
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One odd thing is that when I first read the blade composition, I thought it would be too bouncy.
Koto & Hinoki individually are fairly bouncy outers. Add them together and add carbon to the mix, my initial impression was that this would be uncontrollable in low gears. But from reports, I'm clearly very wrong on this. I wonder how the designer achieved this.
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i emailed timstt but he never got back to me, did you guys use the "chat" function on the bottom of his website?
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