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bschap 
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 Topic: Multiple glue layers...Posted: 05/13/2014 at 9:15pm |
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I am curious as to how prevalent the practice is of gluing more than one layer of glue on the sponge. You know...putting one layer on...waiting for it to dry and then putting another...maybe a 3rd maybe a 4th.... I don't think there can be a decisive poll here, but I assume it is a minority of players that do this and that most people simply put one layer on sponge and one layer on blade. So, guys, all you multiple "gluers" please weigh in and make your voice heard and please tell us how many glue layers you use.
also, what are the negatives of such a practice? Thanks.
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glanden.zheng
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Posted: 05/13/2014 at 9:24pm |
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I do multiple only because I boost
 But I have found that multiple layers of glue changes the feeling of the rubber (vibration, even power) as you're playing. I also find that too many layers can hinder feeling of the ball in general and as in softer shots you won't even be able to interact with the blade. I know this through personal experience and also because once someone demanded me to glue 6 layers of Finezip for some freak reason without booster and they couldn't play at all the next day, with the bat lacking both power and ball feeling. I also know that with regards to Tenergy, one layer of runnier glue such as Free Chack is usually too little as the sponge absorbs most of the glue and doesn't glue properly. I've had someone's Tenergy kind of half fall off the blade during a match after they peeled the edge against the table on a push. But to answer you question, I use 4 layers on my Hurricane and 3 layers on my Tenergy. I use Finezip.
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suds79
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Posted: 05/13/2014 at 9:25pm |
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I too am curious about this.
I've used tear mender recently and am getting more familiar it. I've seen how a really thick layer of that stuff could almost be like thickening the sponge. It's elastic somewhat. Is that the idea of why someone would do that? Edited by suds79 - 05/13/2014 at 9:26pm |
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bschap
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Posted: 05/13/2014 at 9:41pm |
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I am experimenting with two layers on the sponge (one on blade). No chance of this being a negative, right?
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schen
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Posted: 05/13/2014 at 9:47pm |
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I actually put more layers on the blade and a single layer on the sponge depending how strong I need the bond.
Normally I only need 2 layers on the blade and 1 on the sponge with Finezip, however sometimes when I go overboard with tuning I need a 3rd layer on the blade to keep the edges from peeling.
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Roger Stillabower
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Posted: 05/14/2014 at 9:36am |
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I use TM and the Haifu W/B glue and some times I will use the Buterfly Free Chack. I only use the Free Chack on a sealed blade and not on the sponge,as it it is very hard to remove from the sponge but has very good adhesive when used on the blade for heavy tuned rubbers.I prefer the Haifu W/B glue over TM because it is a self leveling glue, but in multiple layers they both come off the sponge in one piece.
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mikepong
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Posted: 05/14/2014 at 10:00am |
same here, i also put 2 layers on sponge and 1 on blade. works fine for me
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Dr.Cho
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Posted: 05/14/2014 at 10:02am |
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6 months ago i watched the revolution glue video where they put several layers on a rubber.
I know most of these water based glues are the same liquid latex and ammonia. so i tried 4 layers on xiom vega europe. It gave the rubber more spring and speed or tuning. only problem is the process of glueing and waiting for the next layer. not a bad use for older rubber you want to bring back to life.
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Posted: 05/14/2014 at 10:10am |
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I recommend putting one full layer on rubber and one full layer on blade.
Put a edge tape and leave the rubbers as they are till they die.
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Roger Stillabower
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Posted: 05/14/2014 at 10:45am |
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Keep an open mind, and experiment!!
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Posted: 05/15/2014 at 10:58am |
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I always put 2 layers on sponge and 1 layer on blade for stronger bonds.
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Posted: 05/15/2014 at 11:17am |
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Use Donic VarioClean - no need for multiple layers.
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Posted: 05/15/2014 at 3:10pm |
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Posted: 05/15/2014 at 5:59pm |
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Butterfly recommend only a very thin layer on blade and rubber. They say, according to their own testing, thin is best. More layers just slow things down. This is with water-based glues of course.
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Posted: 05/15/2014 at 9:00pm |
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ok, so you sacrifice speed...but what do you get? More dwell? More grip on the ball?
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Posted: 05/15/2014 at 9:01pm |
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and speaking of Butterfly and glue...is there anybody out there that actually likes Free Chack?
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