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I'm not sure this agrees with other things I have read, but here is some info from Victas website:


TSP productsVICTAS alternative recommended product
1Spectrum 21 spongeSPECTOL S1
2Spectrum redSPECTOL S2
3Spectrum blueSPECTOL S3
FourSuper Spin Pips 21 spongeSPINPIPS D1
FiveSpin pips redSPINPIPS D2
6Spin pips blueSPINPIPS D2
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Originally posted by 1dennistt 1dennistt wrote:

I'm not sure this agrees with other things I have read, but here is some info from Victas website:


TSP productsVICTAS alternative recommended product
1Spectrum 21 spongeSPECTOL S1
2Spectrum redSPECTOL S2
3Spectrum blueSPECTOL S3
FourSuper Spin Pips 21 spongeSPINPIPS D1
FiveSpin pips redSPINPIPS D2
6Spin pips blueSPINPIPS D2

Yeah it is interesting. The Spectol S3 looks very similar to the TSP Spectol Red. 
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Originally posted by Shiro Shiro wrote:

Originally posted by 1dennistt 1dennistt wrote:

I'm not sure this agrees with other things I have read, but here is some info from Victas website:


TSP productsVICTAS alternative recommended product
1Spectrum 21 spongeSPECTOL S1
2Spectrum redSPECTOL S2
3Spectrum blueSPECTOL S3
FourSuper Spin Pips 21 spongeSPINPIPS D1
FiveSpin pips redSPINPIPS D2
6Spin pips blueSPINPIPS D2

Yeah it is interesting. The Spectol S3 looks very similar to the TSP Spectol Red. 

In table tennis reference said new spectols are not blue and ref rebranding
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I think the shape of the S3 pips is the same as TSP Spectol Red/Blue, but they are very slightly smaller and spaced fractionally further apart. 

The S2 pips are the same shape as the original Spectol, with a deeper cylindrical section and shallower conical base.

The topsheet material also looks a little more 'raw' for both.

Although the sponge on the S2 was harder, at least on the sheet that I have, it doesn't feel any harder when bouncing a ball, probably because the pips are more flexible.



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Originally posted by Shiro Shiro wrote:

Originally posted by Sedis Sedis wrote:

The S2 was slightly heavier and harder at 43g and 46 degrees Shore O, The S3 was 40g and 44 degrees Shore O.

The S2 has an orange sponge which seems to soak up glue a bit more than the S3.

The S3 sponge looks very similar to TSP Spectol Red, but is closer in hardness to Spectol Blue.

The top sheets for both are a slightly darker red colour and look slightly less matt/more shiny, very similar to Nittaku Sonic AR.

When bouncing a ball, S2 feels very similar to Spectol blue.

It is very difficult to tell without actually playing, but doing some spin tests, it feels like S2 has a similar amount of grip to Spectol Red/Blue, possibly very slightly less.

S3 feels like it has less grip, but until I actually play with them, I don't know for sure.

Thank you for the comparisons. When you get the chance to test out the Victas Spectols, do you mind posting which one plays and feels more closely related to the TSP Spectol Red? 

Spectol blue doesnt have disturbing effect and max version is worst
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So, we finally have Spectol 21 2.0 mm as Victas Spectol S1?
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Originally posted by Yagorkin Yagorkin wrote:

So, we finally have Spectol 21 2.0 mm as Victas Spectol S1?

I m not sure if spectol 21 and spectol normal had the same topsheet.I found the 1st easier to play with.
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Looks like Spectol 21 along with Blue and Red are not making the transition to Victas.  Same appears to be true for the SpinPips versions. Ouch

This is from Victas Website:

Pimple-Out rubbers

 TSP

 VICTAS

 Spectol                                    

 SPECTOL S1                          

 Spectol 21

 ー

 Spectol Red

 ー

 Spectol Blue

 ー

 Super Spinpips

 SPINPIPS D1

 Super Spinpips CHOP II

 SPINPIPS D3

 Super Spinpips 21

 ー

 Spinpips Red

 ー

 Spinpips Blue

 ー

 Curl P1 R

 CURL P1V

 Curl P2

 CURL P2V

 Curl P3 Alpha R

 CURL P3αV

 Curl P-4

 CURL P4V

 Curl P-H

 CURL P5V

 Spin Magic

 ―

 L-Catcher

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This is sick. Spectol 21 was easily the most popular one. Should we really speed glue Spectol S1 in 2021?

Edited by Yagorkin - 05/11/2021 at 7:04am
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Originally posted by 1dennistt 1dennistt wrote:

Looks like Spectol 21 along with Blue and Red are not making the transition to Victas.  Same appears to be true for the SpinPips versions. Ouch

This is from Victas Website:

Pimple-Out rubbers

 TSP

 VICTAS

 Spectol                                    

 SPECTOL S1                          

 Spectol 21

 ー

 Spectol Red

 ー

 Spectol Blue

 ー

 Super Spinpips

 SPINPIPS D1

 Super Spinpips CHOP II

 SPINPIPS D3

 Super Spinpips 21

 ー

 Spinpips Red

 ー

 Spinpips Blue

 ー

 Curl P1 R

 CURL P1V

 Curl P2

 CURL P2V

 Curl P3 Alpha R

 CURL P3αV

 Curl P-4

 CURL P4V

 Curl P-H

 CURL P5V

 Spin Magic

 ―

 L-Catcher

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Do you happen to have the link for this? 
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Here are some links to info on their website, first is the one you asked for:


A PDF with more info:



If anyone can translate the criteria for the columns  on the table below that would be helpful, the inverted and pips have different names for the columns.  Thanks in advance.

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I have a couple of Japanese players at the club and they've provided a little description to me about the rubbers.  One of them mentioned the video describing the D1, D2, and D3 rubbers said the D2 was faster and more spin than Victas 102.  

I ordered the D2 in 2.0 for myself, and the S3 for my friend from https://www.nishohi.com/en/

This Japanese company sent them out right away.  I ordered them on Saturday night, and received them by Wednesday morning.

The other video that had someone describing the S1, S2, and S3 rubbers said the S1 was same as original spectol, S2 was basically same but more tension than S1 and much faster.  According to my translator he said the reviewer said the S3 was quite different from S1 and S2.  The shape of the pips was changed to make it easier to give a "dead" ball.  

I just got them in so will try them out tomorrow.
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So, is S2 different from Spectol 21?
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Originally posted by AcudaDave AcudaDave wrote:

I have a couple of Japanese players at the club and they've provided a little description to me about the rubbers.  One of them mentioned the video describing the D1, D2, and D3 rubbers said the D2 was faster and more spin than Victas 102.  

I ordered the D2 in 2.0 for myself, and the S3 for my friend from https://www.nishohi.com/en/

This Japanese company sent them out right away.  I ordered them on Saturday night, and received them by Wednesday morning.

The other video that had someone describing the S1, S2, and S3 rubbers said the S1 was same as original spectol, S2 was basically same but more tension than S1 and much faster.  According to my translator he said the reviewer said the S3 was quite different from S1 and S2.  The shape of the pips was changed to make it easier to give a "dead" ball.  

I just got them in so will try them out tomorrow.

Thanks for the update! Yeah it almost seems like the S2 is essentially spectol red. If I remember correctly, the topsheet of spectol red is the same as the original spectol but the sponge is supposed to be faster than normal. 
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This info might help someone who is looking for a Spectol 21 substitute.  It is from an old thread from 2014.  it offers a small review of the other Victas pips.

Ludo posted the following info:  

I hit briefly with both rubbers (Max sponge for both).

VO-101:  
Very similar to Spectol 21 (topsheet and sponge).
Sponge:  Soft, springy and very fast sponge (faster than Spectol 21).
Topsheet: similar pips to Spectol (slightly longer) and more flexible. Top of pips is grippier than Spectol.  VO-101 is a traditional SP with thinner pips (cylindrical shaped... I thought they were Medium pips at first) much less sensitive to spin so easier to block spinny loops and occasional knuckle ball returns.


VO-102:
Topsheet is very similar to Stiga Clippa (same grip, less than 802-40).
Sponge feels harder and slower (vs VO101).
Easier to control for me as I play modern defense with SP on BH.
VO-102 is a more grippy SP (like Clippa, 802, 802-40, etc..).

Quality wise is on par with TSP Spectol.
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The sponge of S3 looks very similar to the Spectol Red. Don't know about the topsheet, but will look for my old version of Spectol Red and see how they compare.
The D2 is much heavier than the S3 uncut.  It's about 13 grams more, and the sponge is a dense white.  
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Originally posted by AcudaDave AcudaDave wrote:

The sponge of S3 looks very similar to the Spectol Red. Don't know about the topsheet, but will look for my old version of Spectol Red and see how they compare.
The D2 is much heavier than the S3 uncut.  It's about 13 grams more, and the sponge is a dense white.  

Yeah I agree on the sponge color. The top sheet is what concerns me. The spectol red has the same topsheet as the original spectol. 
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ok... played with Victas D2 and Victas S3 tonight. Some people on YouTube had said the D2 was very fast and the S3 was slow. It was just the opposite. The D2 Spinpips was slow and the S3 Spectol was fast. The S3 is pretty good but may just be Spectol rec. I could loop a little with it, and actually liked it, but it’s very light and the loss of weight really threw me off. 
The D2 was not fast at all and was nothing Specialist 
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Is the D2 spinnier than Victas Vo>102 ?
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Originally posted by AcudaDave AcudaDave wrote:

ok... played with Victas D2 and Victas S3 tonight. Some people on YouTube had said the D2 was very fast and the S3 was slow. It was just the opposite. The D2 Spinpips was slow and the S3 Spectol was fast. The S3 is pretty good but may just be Spectol rec. I could loop a little with it, and actually liked it, but it’s very light and the loss of weight really threw me off. 
The D2 was not fast at all and was nothing Specialist 

Did you mean to say the S3 is like the spectol Red? You said "rec" instead
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sorry...wrong post

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Yes...I think S3 is just Spectol Red re-badged.  The D2 was nothing great IMO. It certainly was not a very-fast rubber like the description on the package says! I'm guessing one of the other "D" rubbers is like Spin Pips Red and Blue.  The S3 is really not bad, it's fast and you can attack underspin but I don't like the extremely light weight of it.  It's about 13g lighter than D2 and other pips out rubbers I've played with, and the lack of weight threw me off.


Is S2 rebranded Spectol blue? 
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Originally posted by Shiro Shiro wrote:

Originally posted by Sedis Sedis wrote:

The S2 was slightly heavier and harder at 43g and 46 degrees Shore O, The S3 was 40g and 44 degrees Shore O.

The S2 has an orange sponge which seems to soak up glue a bit more than the S3.

The S3 sponge looks very similar to TSP Spectol Red, but is closer in hardness to Spectol Blue.

The top sheets for both are a slightly darker red colour and look slightly less matt/more shiny, very similar to Nittaku Sonic AR.

When bouncing a ball, S2 feels very similar to Spectol blue.

It is very difficult to tell without actually playing, but doing some spin tests, it feels like S2 has a similar amount of grip to Spectol Red/Blue, possibly very slightly less.

S3 feels like it has less grip, but until I actually play with them, I don't know for sure.

Thank you for the comparisons. When you get the chance to test out the Victas Spectols, do you mind posting which one plays and feels more closely related to the TSP Spectol Red? 

I got to try both S2 and S3 tonight, the short answer is S3 is the closest to Spectol Red

It is not exactly the same, the sponge is harder, like Spectol Blue, but the top sheet is a bit more flexible, which seems to compensate this to a degree.
In 2.0mm S3 is slightly faster than Spectol Blue in 1.8mm. Is has a similar low throw. It would be a good replacement if you are mainly a SP hitter or a blocker.
I found it a bit tricker to control in the short game, but this is probably a case of having to adjust slightly. It is very similar for chopping.

S2 is different, it has a much higher throw and gives a less dead ball. It is really easy to control in the short game, seems to have more gears and is more lively but only when you really attack.

My practice partner said the S3 was the hardest to play against, he really had to adjust and lift the ball more. 
Spectol Blue was a close second, with similar characteristics.

I'll be able to tell you more once I regain a bit of form after the forced lockdown break, but I think I will be changing to S3, but only after I have used my remaining sheets of Spectol Red and Blue. If S3 came in 1.8mm, I would be very tempted to change straight away.

S2 is OK, but I prefer the S3. I think S2 might be a good alternative to some of the more spin oriented pips if you wanted something in between those and the S3.


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Could anyone compare S2 and S3 to Spectol 21?
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Originally posted by Sedis Sedis wrote:

Originally posted by Shiro Shiro wrote:

Originally posted by Sedis Sedis wrote:

The S2 was slightly heavier and harder at 43g and 46 degrees Shore O, The S3 was 40g and 44 degrees Shore O.

The S2 has an orange sponge which seems to soak up glue a bit more than the S3.

The S3 sponge looks very similar to TSP Spectol Red, but is closer in hardness to Spectol Blue.

The top sheets for both are a slightly darker red colour and look slightly less matt/more shiny, very similar to Nittaku Sonic AR.

When bouncing a ball, S2 feels very similar to Spectol blue.

It is very difficult to tell without actually playing, but doing some spin tests, it feels like S2 has a similar amount of grip to Spectol Red/Blue, possibly very slightly less.

S3 feels like it has less grip, but until I actually play with them, I don't know for sure.

Thank you for the comparisons. When you get the chance to test out the Victas Spectols, do you mind posting which one plays and feels more closely related to the TSP Spectol Red? 

I got to try both S2 and S3 tonight, the short answer is S3 is the closest to Spectol Red

It is not exactly the same, the sponge is harder, like Spectol Blue, but the top sheet is a bit more flexible, which seems to compensate this to a degree.
In 2.0mm S3 is slightly faster than Spectol Blue in 1.8mm. Is has a similar low throw. It would be a good replacement if you are mainly a SP hitter or a blocker.
I found it a bit tricker to control in the short game, but this is probably a case of having to adjust slightly. It is very similar for chopping.

S2 is different, it has a much higher throw and gives a less dead ball. It is really easy to control in the short game, seems to have more gears and is more lively but only when you really attack.

My practice partner said the S3 was the hardest to play against, he really had to adjust and lift the ball more. 
Spectol Blue was a close second, with similar characteristics.

I'll be able to tell you more once I regain a bit of form after the forced lockdown break, but I think I will be changing to S3, but only after I have used my remaining sheets of Spectol Red and Blue. If S3 came in 1.8mm, I would be very tempted to change straight away.

S2 is OK, but I prefer the S3. I think S2 might be a good alternative to some of the more spin oriented pips if you wanted something in between those and the S3.



How are S3 and S2 blocking spinny loops? Blue almost has no  knuckleballs on 1.8mm..max spectol blue is harmless.
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How are S3 and S2 blocking spinny loops? Blue almost has no  knuckleballs on 1.8mm..max spectol blue is harmless.

S3 in 2.0mm is very similar to block with to Blue in 1.8mm and might even disrupt/reduce the incoming spin slightly more. 

S2 is easy to control when blocking, but gives a less awkward/flat return.
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Originally posted by mykonos96 mykonos96 wrote:


How are S3 and S2 blocking spinny loops? Blue almost has no  knuckleballs on 1.8mm..max spectol blue is harmless.

S3 in 2.0mm is very similar to block with to Blue in 1.8mm and might even disrupt/reduce the incoming spin slightly more. 

S2 is easy to control when blocking, but gives a less awkward/flat return.

Is S2  spinny like moristo?
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Is S2  spinny like moristo?

Sorry, I've never tried the regular Moristo.

S2 is more spinny than you would expect from the shape of the pips, but I can't do a direct comparison. 
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Originally posted by mykonos96 mykonos96 wrote:


Is S2  spinny like moristo?

Sorry, I've never tried the regular Moristo.

S2 is more spinny than you would expect from the shape of the pips, but I can't do a direct comparison. 

What pips plays more similar to S2? Hope S2 is not a pip thar plays like inverted. I Had Spectol red  and it was very hard to control even when I played with advanced pips like spectol clasic,v0 103  I wonder if S3 is easier to handle .
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Originally posted by mykonos96 mykonos96 wrote:

What pips plays more similar to S2? Hope S2 is not a pip thar plays like inverted. I Had Spectol red  and it was very hard to control even when I played with advanced pips like spectol clasic,v0 103  I wonder if S3 is easier to handle .

I can't really think of anything that is very close.
A faster version of the original Spectol?
The S3 suits me much better and most pips I have used for any length of time have been more along those lines
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