He Zhi Wen losing to an amateur xD

played with George while living in Michigan 20 years ago. He was using regular short pips back then. His forehand hit and backhand block were very consistent but not as lethal as what have displayed in this video. Using an Ox rubber seems to have elevated his game to another level. Nevertheless, This is An unbelievable achievement for him to beat HZW regardless of the circumstances. 

KLHfans wrote: His name is George Guo, the state champion in the US Michigan state few years ago. His USTTA rating is around 2262.  But I saw him beat 2500 players in my club. He is currently playing in the bay area, northern CA,  ICC, Swan and TTA club. He used Dr. Evil OX (no sponge) and can smash both sides with only one side of rubber. He took every ball right out of the bounce and deadly angle and he made 2000 level players look liked doesn't know how to play table tennis.  You need very good footwork in order to keep up his pace.

andzejgolot wrote: pingpongpaddy wrote: qpskfec wrote: It's nice for the amateur to say he beat HZW, however, without proper context, it's a largely meaningless result. Was this an exhibition? Was this the last match in a RR group where HZW had already clinched advancing? Prize money? HZW certainly didn't look like he was playing hard. the way hzw played was standard tactics for trying to deal with drevil or lp that is try to rally over the table and improve the feeling and confidence on timing with attacking against the Drevil stuff. But this time Guo took care of business too efficiently moving Hzw around too much. BTW while i am writing this Federer is losing to unknown pole Hurkasz in wimbledon quarters.currently 2 sets down!   18th player in ranking-UNKNOWN Polish player xd

hi andzejgolot
yes I apologise to Hurkacz fans everywhere
I am not tracking the rankings as well as I should
i think age is a factor

Edited by pingpongpaddy - 07/13/2021 at 7:38am

KLHfans wrote: His name is George Guo, the state champion in the US Michigan state few years ago. His USTTA rating is around 2262.  But I saw him beat 2500 players in my club. He is currently playing in the bay area, northern CA,  ICC, Swan and TTA club. He used Dr. Evil OX (no sponge) and can smash both sides with only one side of rubber. He took every ball right out of the bounce and deadly angle and he made 2000 level players look liked doesn't know how to play table tennis.  You need very good footwork in order to keep up his pace.

Hi:

It's nice for the amateur to say he beat HZW, however, without proper context, it's a largely meaningless result.

Was this an exhibition? Was this the last match in a RR group where HZW had already clinched advancing? Prize money? HZW certainly didn't look like he was playing hard.

KLHfans wrote: His name is George Guo, the state champion in the US Michigan state few years ago. His USTTA rating is around 2262.  But I saw him beat 2500 players in my club. He is currently playing in the bay area, northern CA,  ICC, Swan and TTA club. He used Dr. Evil OX (no sponge) and can smash both sides with only one side of rubber. He took every ball right out of the bounce and deadly angle and he made 2000 level players look liked doesn't know how to play table tennis.  You need very good footwork in order to keep up his pace.

with this very helpful info its much easier to interpret what we see and give deserved credit to George Guo. What I saw as lack of motivation can now be seen as the sort of discomfort we often see at amateur league level when a known strong player comes across a style that disrupts his timing. So I now see his fh bloopers as perfectly understandable
I happen to know that last couple of years HZW has been "Has bat can coach" all over the world. He has visited our club in Ireland a few times and will be visiting again in August. When he gives these sessions he plays with the hurricane side of his racket almost all the time.
Its plain that we cannot expect HZW to perform with the same ease as before but at least we can be pleased for the unique opportunity to be coached by him. He is a special guy

KLHfans wrote: His name is George Guo, the state champion in the US Michigan state few years ago. His USTTA rating is around 2262.  But I saw him beat 2500 players in my club. He is currently playing in the bay area, northern CA,  ICC, Swan and TTA club. He used Dr. Evil OX (no sponge) and can smash both sides with only one side of rubber. He took every ball right out of the bounce and deadly angle and he made 2000 level players look liked doesn't know how to play table tennis.  You need very good footwork in order to keep up his pace.

I have to go "on-record" as saying that was absolutely beautiful table tennis. I could care less if someone who doesn't know anything about table tennis is not impressed. Those who are impressed with exhibition points, playing around the table, and joking play probably won't like it, but I loved it.

thethinker wrote: According to the commentator it's LP, and because of it HZW is afraid of serving tricky sidespin because the return would also be unpredictable. But the soft loops does look like half LP.

How I love to see "disgusting style" players play against eachother. They can taste their own poison.

blahness wrote: kakapo wrote: Not used anymore playing Vs his own style :)) Lol well technically the amateur guy is using some long pips which thrown him off his game so bad haha. Usually it's He Zhi Wen making his opponents look dumb

I think a lot of ppl are very impressed by speed, which is why fast paced 

"But I thought I already addressed it:- amateurs  play for themselves. Only pros play for audience. At "this point in time He Zhewen is no longer a pro (or in between). And in between TT events don;t attract 1000s of spectataors.  In fact even pro events won't have a significant increase in spectators even if they went to all using just only spinny inverted. That is a myth & disinformation".