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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tom Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07/05/2021 at 2:58pm
Originally posted by Spinless Spinless wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

another black mark against TT as a serious sport

How is that ?  This other player is using just one side of the racket. Even if that is long pips (I am not sure) or anti, do you know how much skill it takes to learn to use it (at that age) and to beat a player of the caliber of He Zhewen (even if he is 59) .

In table tennis every player, no matter the level, has a specific opponent style that is a nightmare. On this day He Zhewen met his match.

So you claim this is a problem. When someone identifies a problem, is it not reasonable to expect the person to also propose a solution ? What is your proposed solution ?
 
Do you propose to ban all long pips & punish all away from the table defender just because two older players with different styles play in a small tournament ? REALLY 
 Sure He Zhewen WAS a pro player but not now. 

This is one of the sad excuses used by people who hate all pips & anti. When two low level anti or long-pips players play  each other , the match is ugly. They simply overlook the fact that low level players are playing for themselves, not to please spectators like the pros do. 

The problem therefore the "one size fits all" approach used by the ITTF. What works for pros must be also shoved upon the throats of amateur and or older players (I admit most amateur players  are also partly responsible for fantasizing to be pros).

It would make sense to have different rules for 

1. Juniors (no pips of any kind / no anti) :- only spinny inverted 
2. Regular all age events 
3. Events for veterans ages 40-54 as experimental testing ground for rule & racket rule  changes
4. Events for players age 55 & over with relaxed rules allowing frictionless pips / anti etc (As Jonyer 1980 points out there are 1000s players over 55 in China & worldwide who use rubbers other than spinny inverted)  

 
   


I am not advocating banning anyone, or hating any style (even spinless LOL) but it does not work well for TT to attract new audience or participants 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jonyer1980 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07/05/2021 at 11:19am
That's nothing astonishing. It's quite usual in China indeed, since there are thousands senior players full-time dedicated that could beat any national champion....
This is even more common on penhonders/pips out at +55y.o.LOL


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another black mark against TT as a serious sport
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looks a bit like inverted ?....to be honest . weird old game mind
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kolev Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07/05/2021 at 4:28am
@blahness.
While watching I asked myself several times what rubber he is using, but frankly never thought of LP cause it looked so  damn fast
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Originally posted by kakapo kakapo wrote:

Not used anymore playing Vs his own style :))
Ha ha. It really seems so. Btw, I can't recall seeing even one of the famous HZW long diagonal serves. On the other hand his opponent was simply terrific.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lightspin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07/05/2021 at 4:07am
This video just goes to show it is impossible to tell someone's level from just watching a match.  When two players are close in level, they can look quite bad playing each other.  Things get messy.  I think that is what is going on here. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote blahness Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07/05/2021 at 4:02am
Originally posted by kakapo kakapo wrote:

Not used anymore playing Vs his own style :))

Lol well technically the amateur guy is using some long pips which thrown him off his game so bad haha. Usually it's He Zhi Wen making his opponents look dumb Tongue

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Not used anymore playing Vs his own style :))
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Found it too funny not to share LOL


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