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TTeveryday 
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Hi can someone please explain what tensor rubbers are and what their effects are? Also what rubbers from Xiom are tensors? More specifically from the Omega and Vega series?
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haggisv
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Posted: 06/25/2013 at 7:38pm |
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Tensor is a trademark by ESN (the German TT rubber Manufacturer), so only a rubber made by them using their Tensor technology is truly a Tensor. Other manufacturers use other technology to give a similar 'speed glue' effect to their rubbers, but technically they are not Tensors (although plenty of people call all these types of rubber Tensors, adding to the confusion
 ).Almost all the XIOM rubbers are Tensors, Musa is the only exception I can think off. Edited by haggisv - 06/25/2013 at 9:28pm |
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Posted: 06/25/2013 at 8:44pm |
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most Xiom rubbers are Tensors except maybe Musa?, TSN make many of the Donic, Tibhar, Adidas, Joola , Andro and some Yasaka rubbers
http://tensor.de/tensor_technology
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Posted: 06/25/2013 at 9:53pm |
so Tibhar, Rakza 7 and Nittaku rubbers that are made in german but does not have the 'Tensor' logo are not technically Tensor rubbers??
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haggisv
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Posted: 06/25/2013 at 10:19pm |
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Correct (technically
 ). Some companies (like Donic calls it "Formula") pay to have the Tensor technology under their own name. Of course Donic and other brands tweak and develop the Tensor technology to come up with their own unique products, but the basic technology is the same.Edited by haggisv - 06/25/2013 at 10:21pm |
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TTeveryday
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Posted: 06/26/2013 at 2:32pm |
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So Chinese rubbers like DHS are not? What about Tenergies?
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I know haggisv means well and is giving you some good education but I think you're letting the technical details of "trademarked" terms get in the way. By most accounts, if you ask someone if about a Tensor rubber, they'll know you're talking about a rubber that has some kind of factory tuning (which ups the speed & spin) applied to it. It's much like speed gluing back in the old days. All these brands have their different name for it. Butterfly has "spring sponge technology" but ask anybody and they'll tell you that you can smell the VOCs from the rubber when the package is first opened. So know they're treating that sponge heavily in the factory. I'm sure there are more intricate details to their process than I lead on but that's a short, simple description.
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Tensors haven't used any tuner until very recently and even then it's debatable. The last generation of tensors had absolutely no smell whatever, it's only bluefire which is suspicious.
ESN do make the majority of high end rubbers on the market and from brand to brand within each generation their are always a few identical rubbers with a different brand moulded into them, generally unless it says made in Japan or made in China, it's made by ESN in Germany
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[QUOTE=bluebucket]Tensors haven't used any tuner until very recently and even then it's debatable. The last generation of tensors had absolutely no smell whatever, it's only bluefire which is suspicious.
ESN do make the majority of high end rubbers on the market and from brand to brand within each generation their are always a few identical rubbers with a different brand moulded into them, generally unless it says made in Japan or made in China, it's made by ESN in Germany
[/QUOTE... of course. Tensor, tensioned rubber, and tuner/tuned rubber are all separate concepts.
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(1) Juic SBA (Fl, 85 g) with Bluefire JP3 (red max) on FH and 0.6 mm DR N Desperado on BH; (2) Yinhe T7 (Fl, 87 g) with Bluefire M3 (red 2.0) on FH and 0.6 mm 755 on BH.
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