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Originally posted by melarimsa melarimsa wrote:

Prijatelju ja mislim da si ti dobar 1800+ igrac !
Dude, I think you are very solid and good 1800+ player !
 
EEEEE, sad me ubi ki s puskom. (Salim se). Hvala! Ali to je video od prosle godine kada je moj maksimum bio 8 pobeda i 16 poraza u drugoj ligi. Tokom ove 2008 godine sam dosta poradio na BH i celokupnoj igri (bolji servis, skratio sam put FH spina, kretanje, ...) i maksimum mi je bio 15 pobeda i 9 poraza u drugoj ligi. Sledeca sezona pocinje sledeceg vikenda, i ja se nadam da ce sve vise unapredjivati moju igru, iz godine u godinu!
 
Thanks! But this video is from last year when my maximum was 8 win and 16 lose matches in second Serbian league. During this 2008 year I work hard on my BH and whole game (better serves, I cut lenght of my FH loop, footwork, ...) and my maximum was 15 win and 9 lose matches in second Serbia league. Next season will start next weekend, so I will hope I will improv my game better and better from year to year! 
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Mol how many division the serbia league have?
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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

 
It takes time to find the style that fits the body/mind combo of yours. It takes time to discover yourself and do something right about it.
 
 
 
WinkThanks! You are 100% right. But I already found my TT style (which my muscles and brain and whole body like most). Its a style with loops (70% of my strenght) with a lot of spin, and counter loops and blocks.
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Your backhand only looks weak because half the time you're flatfooted. If you want to get that speed then you're going to have to hit the gym and get legs of a racehorse. Double your strength, lean out to around 10% bodyfat and your footwork issues will magically disappear.
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Mol how many division the serbia league have?
 
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Originally posted by Ranger-man Ranger-man wrote:

All in all, I would say MOL, you are not a bad player, ou have a good forehand, it lacks power, but is fairly consistent. Your backhand is not weak, just inconsistent. You need more speed in your footwork.

But all in all, you are not a bad player.

However, you are not good enough to say what you have been saying about other people's games, you are no Jun, and you are certainly no Wang Liqin.

I am not trying to put you down, just trying to say that dude, keep it in perspective. And players in vids look as good as they really are,

If you say you can beat the guy in white, from the video posted by then you are good, still not great. I play Cpen, I could beat the guy in white. He needs way more footwork to play Cpen. or maybe he was just having a bad day. It happens you know.

Players have good days, and bad days, so you can't judge anyone by just one vid.

And if the illegal serving guy in tracks beat several good players, I must say the standard is pretty low, he had no footwork, high returns, and a very weak attack.

Bottom line, you are good, but please, show everyone respect, and I can promise you, you will get the same in return.

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Originally posted by rpbnakata rpbnakata wrote:

Just watched the video. In my honest opinion you have to work much harder on your backhand. It's weak. You can't block 2 balls or put your opponent under pressure with your backhand.
Forehand seems to be OK, but it can (and should) be developed: speed, placement and variety of spins.
I believe you want to improve and it would be great if you post another video in 6 months showing how much your game is improving.
 
Thanis! I will post my new video when I have oportunity to record my TT skills!
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Your backhand only looks weak because half the time you're flatfooted. If you want to get that speed then you're going to have to hit the gym and get legs of a racehorse. Double your strength, lean out to around 10% bodyfat and your footwork issues will magically disappear.
 
Thanks TT_Freak! I am eating like a pig, but nothing (all go to my height and nothing in width)!
 
PS: What is flatfooted (sorry for my bad english)?
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Originally posted by Master_of_loops Master_of_loops wrote:

Originally posted by Superserv Superserv wrote:

Mol how many division the serbia league have?
 
Alot
 
MOL, what do u mean with alot? 100?
 
u said u will play in the 2th league? is that the lowest oris there lower? how can we find u in the serbia TT association or will we find u in club new club?
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Originally posted by Master_of_loops Master_of_loops wrote:

Originally posted by Superserv Superserv wrote:

Mol how many division the serbia league have?
 
Alot
 
MOL, what do u mean with alot? 100?
 
u said u will play in the 2th league? is that the lowest oris there lower? how can we find u in the serbia TT association or will we find u in club new club?
 
I play in 2nd league for last 3 years. In Serbia there are Super league, first league, second league south, second league north, second league center, national league 1, 2, 3, 4, recreative players league, and veteran players league. So 11!
 
For 2008/2009 season some first serbian league clubs wanted that I play for them, but I get more money from my STK Krusevac club (2nd league), so I reject offer.
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and with that game du play 2th league then the league must be very low level. The serbia league standard is very low in that cast.
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and with that game du play 2th league then the league must be very low level. The serbia league standard is very low in that cast.
 
I will repeat this for the 10 time: Video that you saw is from last year (season 2006/2007) when I play nothing special. I am in top 50 senior players in Serbia for season 2007/2008, so you see from this that I improve my game alot. And for the next upcoming season we will see.
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If you improved ten times that is a larger increase than 30%, so which one is it?
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Originally posted by Master_of_loops Master_of_loops wrote:

Originally posted by tdragon tdragon wrote:

Example of players around 2300 US Ranking
 
 
I can beat guy in white shirt, but I dont know for other guy.
actually, the guy in the white shirt, guo xi, is 2400 and the other, truong tu, is 2300.  its probably because guo xi is just playing poorly so its best not to judge on one video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCMDojNFwRs
heres the same guy beating a 2550 player, barney reed.
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what rates do u have if are an elite or pro in the US?
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Elite I would say over 2200, pro would be 2500 and up, if i'm wrong correct me on this
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and MOL said he was like 1800-2000? must be kidding me. MOL is like 1300 to me.
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Yeah i wouldn't say he was around 1800 either, 1500 tops but oh well.  
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Originally posted by bull_harrier bull_harrier wrote:

Elite I would say over 2200, pro would be 2500 and up, if i'm wrong correct me on this
 
I always thought that the Elite players were only the worlds best pros, the type that the US only sees when they have passed their prime, semi-retired and emigrated to the US.Embarrassed
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world elite, yes, but US elite is maybe 2500.  World elite usually don't even have a US rating.  Rating central has them around 2900+
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Originally posted by bull_harrier bull_harrier wrote:

Yeah i wouldn't say he was around 1800 either, 1500 tops but oh well.  
1500 is a bit harsh
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Originally posted by bull_harrier bull_harrier wrote:

Elite I would say over 2200, pro would be 2500 and up, if i'm wrong correct me on this
depends what you see as pro, because a guy who was 2500 and played pro TT would not make enough money for a living
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Originally posted by cole_ely cole_ely wrote:

world elite, yes, but US elite is maybe 2500.  World elite usually don't even have a US rating.  Rating central has them around 2900+
 
 
OK, USATT has the US men's Elite at 2700, World Elite at 2800.
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Elite

1. the choice or best of anything considered collectively, as of a group or class
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Well that's why i said correct me if i was wrong and thanks for the input, and 1500 isn't harsh at all.  
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1500 players
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6GoUNY1Om8&feature=related

either 1500 tops is harsh(or at least a little harsh), or players in colorado are messed up
players don't look as good on camera bull

there is a big difference between most 1500's and 1800-1900s in their service, service return, shot aggressiveness, and shot selection.


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You are right about the differences and he didn't display those qualities well, his shot selection was poor due to a lack of a BH, service return was alright and you' can't tell me footwork here was anything less than inadequate.  The aggressiveness wasn't bad but if you can't get to shots or set them up and just hope and rely that a ball will go to your FH isn't good.  He may look good with the few decent shots he had but the lack of strategy is what sets a 1500 player aside from an 1800 player.  If there was improvement from this video to the supposed next one he'll display then that would be great, i'm curious to see but this one clearly didn't display the level of skill he seems to think he has.  The potential is there and hopefully he'll utilize it with some good coaching.  By the way did your Matsush*ta get in? And did your order some new rubber?
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Chen Weixing is ranked ~2900 at US Open. MOL is almost same rank as Chen Weixing if he claimed that he is ~2300 LOL
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Could anyone clear this to me? World top players still have a rank like that? How much Ma Long would be? 3500+?
I've never understood this kind of ranking.
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usatt ratings get messed up for pros because they have only played in like 1 or 2 usatt events
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