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I'm not sure this agrees with other things I have read, but here is some info from Victas website:


TSP productsVICTAS alternative recommended product
1Spectrum 21 spongeSPECTOL S1
2Spectrum redSPECTOL S2
3Spectrum blueSPECTOL S3
FourSuper Spin Pips 21 spongeSPINPIPS D1
FiveSpin pips redSPINPIPS D2
6Spin pips blueSPINPIPS D2
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Originally posted by 1dennistt 1dennistt wrote:

I'm not sure this agrees with other things I have read, but here is some info from Victas website:


TSP productsVICTAS alternative recommended product
1Spectrum 21 spongeSPECTOL S1
2Spectrum redSPECTOL S2
3Spectrum blueSPECTOL S3
FourSuper Spin Pips 21 spongeSPINPIPS D1
FiveSpin pips redSPINPIPS D2
6Spin pips blueSPINPIPS D2

Yeah it is interesting. The Spectol S3 looks very similar to the TSP Spectol Red. 
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Originally posted by Shiro Shiro wrote:

Originally posted by 1dennistt 1dennistt wrote:

I'm not sure this agrees with other things I have read, but here is some info from Victas website:


TSP productsVICTAS alternative recommended product
1Spectrum 21 spongeSPECTOL S1
2Spectrum redSPECTOL S2
3Spectrum blueSPECTOL S3
FourSuper Spin Pips 21 spongeSPINPIPS D1
FiveSpin pips redSPINPIPS D2
6Spin pips blueSPINPIPS D2

Yeah it is interesting. The Spectol S3 looks very similar to the TSP Spectol Red. 

In table tennis reference said new spectols are not blue and ref rebranding
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I think the shape of the S3 pips is the same as TSP Spectol Red/Blue, but they are very slightly smaller and spaced fractionally further apart. 

The S2 pips are the same shape as the original Spectol, with a deeper cylindrical section and shallower conical base.

The topsheet material also looks a little more 'raw' for both.

Although the sponge on the S2 was harder, at least on the sheet that I have, it doesn't feel any harder when bouncing a ball, probably because the pips are more flexible.



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mykonos96 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05/04/2021 at 8:08pm
Originally posted by Shiro Shiro wrote:

Originally posted by Sedis Sedis wrote:

The S2 was slightly heavier and harder at 43g and 46 degrees Shore O, The S3 was 40g and 44 degrees Shore O.

The S2 has an orange sponge which seems to soak up glue a bit more than the S3.

The S3 sponge looks very similar to TSP Spectol Red, but is closer in hardness to Spectol Blue.

The top sheets for both are a slightly darker red colour and look slightly less matt/more shiny, very similar to Nittaku Sonic AR.

When bouncing a ball, S2 feels very similar to Spectol blue.

It is very difficult to tell without actually playing, but doing some spin tests, it feels like S2 has a similar amount of grip to Spectol Red/Blue, possibly very slightly less.

S3 feels like it has less grip, but until I actually play with them, I don't know for sure.

Thank you for the comparisons. When you get the chance to test out the Victas Spectols, do you mind posting which one plays and feels more closely related to the TSP Spectol Red? 

Spectol blue doesnt have disturbing effect and max version is worst
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So, we finally have Spectol 21 2.0 mm as Victas Spectol S1?
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Originally posted by Yagorkin Yagorkin wrote:

So, we finally have Spectol 21 2.0 mm as Victas Spectol S1?

I m not sure if spectol 21 and spectol normal had the same topsheet.I found the 1st easier to play with.
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