penhold flexibility + push

I'm a penholder and people have constantly stressed the advantage of flexibility in penhold. I've always capitalized on this by turning my wrist back as much as possible before loops and serve. But I'm curious after I talked to a fellow club member around similar rating (1200-1300). He tries NOT to move his wrist when he forehands. Anyways, would like to get more opinion on this - do other penholders maximize their wrist flexibility?

Also, is it possible to turn your wrist back also when you push? pushing seems to be my weak point in the game and any links/guides/tips anyone has on the different "types" of pushing would be great! thanks. I especially have trouble with balls that hit the net/are very low. I'm curious does anyone ever push with the paddle face up against topspin or flat shots(except for the obvious slicing stuff)? I'm a traditional player and play on one side - was thinking of switching to RPB and tried a little, quite convinced I won't master the stroke without a coach to apply it into my game.

i often watch pro videos and it's similar to what you say, i guess i just learned the wrong way too far >_>... does anyone have more specific tips for me - i feel so like my time is wasted kinda thing -_- thanks.

If you use one pips in rubber only why don't you try a j-pen blade? The grip is much more comfortable and it is easier to push heavy. C-pen blades are generally  better  only if you use short pips over the table.

so do you think it's beneficial to intentionally turn back your wrist and use it to the full length? I still assume it's penhold's advantage but I'm not sure if it's correct technique because I don't have a coach.

77g33k wrote: addoydude wrote: Thylacine wrote: If you use one pips in rubber only why don't you try a j-pen blade? The grip is much more comfortable and it is easier to push heavy. C-pen blades are generally  better  only if you use short pips over the table. Tell that to Yoshida Kali. I have a Japanese varsity player friend that says Yoshida Kai could have have climb ten ranking steps higher if ever he would switch to JPen. According to him, his playing style doesn't benefit anything from the CPen blade since he plays like a JPen player.

So the advantage of CPen is essentially RPB? And for looping, my friend who's better than me tells me to relax your wrist but don't overthink it :D (I can barely loop though so who knows >_>)

on the topic of wrist movement- when hitting forehand, if you are cocking your wrist you will obviously get more spin/loop. but you should try hitting the way you friend at the club does with a straight wrist. you will get more more power and accuracy in your shot. you can still loop this way, but it requires more arm.

as for pushes, close to the net it can be very advantageous to add spin using your wrist. this is pretty easy on backhand (not the RPB variety), but trickier on forehand, especially when you have to reach wide. my general (but not steadfast) rule is to keep it loose Over the table, and more straight Behind the table.