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Topic: cutting rubbers
Posted By: abshadow15
Subject: cutting rubbers
Date Posted: 01/21/2009 at 5:11am
what do you use to cut rubbers?

scissor or cutter?


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Posted By: Totoro
Date Posted: 01/21/2009 at 5:13am
I've seen people use scissors [any old pair] for thinner sponges and OX but I think cutter would be better for thicker sponges.

I really don't think that those curved Donic scissors are neccesary; you can get a nice cut without spending heaps.

Make sure whether you're using scissors or cutters, the blade must be sharp.


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Posted By: abshadow15
Date Posted: 01/21/2009 at 5:14am
okay..

thanks



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Posted By: RebTT
Date Posted: 01/21/2009 at 5:14am
Depends. Thick sponge and rubber (usually inverted) I use cutter. Thin sponge and rubber (usually long pips) I use scissors.


Posted By: RasmusAre
Date Posted: 01/21/2009 at 5:54am

I use a pair od scissors and it works fine 4 me. But im not so pedantic on how the result ends up...



Posted By: muley39
Date Posted: 01/21/2009 at 8:03am
I use cutter for inverted rubber. The cut is clean and very good when you get accustomed to it. Only I use scissors for ox.


Posted By: BACKHAND
Date Posted: 01/21/2009 at 9:26am
I would use a stanley knife(like a scalpel) but stronger. Probably called a craft or model makers knife in other countries.
 
My problem is I am pedantic. I have to have a perfect bat whenever I play. 


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Posted By: brytaku25
Date Posted: 01/21/2009 at 9:45am
I use SHARP CUTTING SCISSORS. I always get perfect even cuts. I don't know why. Also it's nice to have something like Donic scissors because it was made specially for cutting rubbers.

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Posted By: kelvinyoong
Date Posted: 01/21/2009 at 10:14am
You can get curve scissors that are used by craft hobbyist and they work great. Just need to keep the scissors flushed to the side of the blade and straight.

The only hard part is the first snip because the handle is in the way.


Posted By: asyraf
Date Posted: 01/21/2009 at 10:24am



i just use this to cut my rubber to the blade.. this is the cheapest knife to cut the rubber..Wink 1 knife 1 or 2 rubber..



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Posted By: Swiff
Date Posted: 01/21/2009 at 10:29am
Originally posted by abshadow15 abshadow15 wrote:

what do you use to cut rubbers?

scissor or cutter?
 
Whenever I started buying my own rubbers I went out to LOWS and bought a new pair of sharp scissors and use them only for cutting rubber.  Works fine for all my 2.0-2.2mm cutting needs.  :)


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Posted By: LittleFish.Net
Date Posted: 01/21/2009 at 10:30am
I use a surgical knife and a turntable. You don't really need a turntable but the $7 knife is well worth the money. People from my club don't believe I did it myself because the edge is so smooth.

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Posted By: peter79
Date Posted: 01/21/2009 at 10:52am
 
I use olfa cutter, the heavy duty one.
I also use samurai Scissors to cut my rubber. The brand is Shozaburo, very sharp, the sharpest scissors I've ever seen.


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Posted By: icontek
Date Posted: 01/21/2009 at 10:55am
a good X-acto knife and disposable blades.

every few sheets of rubber (4? 6?) replace the blade.


Posted By: stan1551
Date Posted: 01/21/2009 at 11:07am
I used to use Zeropong scissors, but after trying this rubber cutting knife - there is no coming back:

http://www.americantabletennis.com/get_item_tg5+kni_rubber-cutting-knife.htm

You have to be careful with it though - keep the angle around 90 degrees, else your cut wont look nice.

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Posted By: dragon kid
Date Posted: 01/21/2009 at 11:32am
For pips in rubber - Cutter. Less messy, quicker and better results
For LP / SP - Scissors (the one use to cut hairs, it's sharp enough)


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Posted By: tuco
Date Posted: 01/21/2009 at 12:04pm
I use scissors and I can get satisfactory results.  I lubricate the blades with Windex prior to cutting - it makes a big difference.


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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 01/21/2009 at 12:07pm
Regular X-acto knife. Olfa is very good too but kinda expensive...

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Posted By: ffx-me
Date Posted: 01/21/2009 at 1:01pm
I use wet scissors, the water helps them to not stick to the glue, and scissors will do.

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Posted By: riVers <3
Date Posted: 01/21/2009 at 1:47pm
Sharp titanium scissors, the secret is to do it very slowly about a quarter if an inch at a time.

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Posted By: magritte
Date Posted: 01/21/2009 at 2:26pm
Go here for perfect results:
http://www.colestt.com/howto.php

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Posted By: LOOPMEISTER
Date Posted: 01/21/2009 at 2:33pm
People have made a big deal about using scissors, but I can never get them to cut as good as a good 'ol utility blade.... cutting on a piece of glass you can get a perfect cut, and I DO recommend that you try to cut all the way through in one pass.




Posted By: doraemon
Date Posted: 01/21/2009 at 6:46pm
To get a clean cut, I prefer to use cutting knife.  However, for really soft blade, you have to be careful because if you are not doing it right, your knife might knick your soft blade, leaving a scar there.

Since I like to have 1 - 2 mm of extra rubbers over the edge, I use scissor now (wetted with windex first).  The cut is not as good as using cutting knife but I have a bit of extra margin there so when I remove and glue the rubbers back, I don't have to be so precise.


Posted By: ffx-me
Date Posted: 01/21/2009 at 6:48pm
You can use scisors for a clean cut as well not only for leaving extra rubber for protection...  if you hold it against the blade, being carefull not to cut the blade, and make very small cuts youll get a nice clean cut

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Posted By: doraemon
Date Posted: 01/21/2009 at 7:00pm
Agree with you, you can get a clean cut as well using scissor, but have to follow the edge of the blade (like using cutting knife).  However, since I want to leave 1-2 mm extra, I can't follow the edge of the blade, thus can't be as neat.


Posted By: ffx-me
Date Posted: 01/21/2009 at 7:02pm
Yes you can, if you put the scissors at an angle you can cut away from the blade edge and leave the same space all the way around

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Posted By: jalc
Date Posted: 01/21/2009 at 7:35pm
Furthermor, to have 1-2mm more is a protector for the blade when you strike in table.


Posted By: ffx-me
Date Posted: 01/21/2009 at 9:15pm
Yo I just noticed cole had a nice video demonstrating how to use scissors for this in his how to section

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Posted By: doraemon
Date Posted: 01/21/2009 at 9:58pm
Originally posted by ffx-me ffx-me wrote:

Yes you can, if you put the scissors at an angle you can cut away from the blade edge and leave the same space all the way around


I am sorry but I can't visualize what you meant here.


Posted By: doraemon
Date Posted: 01/21/2009 at 10:04pm
Originally posted by jalc jalc wrote:

Furthermor, to have 1-2mm more is a protector for the blade when you strike in table.


Correct!!  First, when I did that I meant it to cushion the impact when hitting the table, thus gives a bit of protection to your blade.

However, back when I was still gluing, I had problem put the rubbers back on the blade neatly if they were cut exactly the size of the blade.  With 1-2 mm extra on the edge, I didn't need to be so precise and had the whole blade covered well.

Another additional advantage is that you can have your rubbers put onto bigger size blade and will still fit alright.


Posted By: robjkc
Date Posted: 01/21/2009 at 10:13pm
I use this:



http://www.americantabletennis.com/get_item_tg5+kni_rubber-cutting-knife.htm - http://www.americantabletennis.com/get_item_tg5+kni_rubber-cutting-knife.htm


It is like a surgical knife with replaceable blades.  Just a couple of passes, first through the sponge and then through the rubber and you have a perfect cut.  Just be sure to change the blade after cutting around 5 rubbers.


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Posted By: mizutani_jun
Date Posted: 01/21/2009 at 10:33pm
i have cutter and knife but always use scissors


Posted By: cagaragesales
Date Posted: 01/21/2009 at 11:41pm
scissors. But always with water. Without water, it's extremely hard to cut with a nice finish, but with water, it's extremely easy.

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Posted By: cagaragesales
Date Posted: 01/21/2009 at 11:42pm
scissors. But always with water. Without water, it's extremely hard to cut with a nice finish, but with water, it's extremely easy.

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Posted By: mizutani_jun
Date Posted: 01/21/2009 at 11:52pm
Originally posted by cagaragesales cagaragesales wrote:

scissors. But always with water. Without water, it's extremely hard to cut with a nice finish, but with water, it's extremely easy.
 
is it mean we have to wet the rubber before cut it?
or just you wet the part that want to cut?
i`m always use scissors but not with waterDead
sometimes the cut is not so beautifulCry


Posted By: cagaragesales
Date Posted: 01/21/2009 at 11:55pm
wet the scissors. and while the scissors are still wet, cut the rubber

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Posted By: Swiff
Date Posted: 01/21/2009 at 11:59pm

http://%5bFLASH -

 
I forget the poster of this video, sorry, but he's a member here.  Anyway, props to him, that's about as smooth as you can get.  ;)


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Posted By: mizutani_jun
Date Posted: 01/22/2009 at 1:07am
Originally posted by cagaragesales cagaragesales wrote:

wet the scissors. and while the scissors are still wet, cut the rubber
 
thanks for the info.....Embarrassed


Posted By: speedy
Date Posted: 01/22/2009 at 2:10am
Originally posted by abshadow15 abshadow15 wrote:

what do you use to cut rubbers?

scissor or cutter?


Here are mine...



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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 01/22/2009 at 6:33am






swiffers i think it was 7humoz who posted that












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Posted By: kenneyy88
Date Posted: 01/22/2009 at 7:11am
I have cutter and zeropong scissors. I use the scissors, I'm not that good at using the surgical-like cutter. 


Posted By: schumi27
Date Posted: 01/22/2009 at 8:33am
Originally posted by speedy speedy wrote:


Here are mine...



Seems that you have done a lot of "surgery operations" on that table LOL


Posted By: brytaku25
Date Posted: 01/22/2009 at 10:33am
I'd get a cardboard of some kind when cutting with knives.

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Posted By: tommyzai
Date Posted: 01/22/2009 at 11:48pm
A fresh blade in an Xacto Knife is best in my book!
Scissors will not give as clean a cut; however, they work better for cutting OX rubbers or pips on thin sponge.
:-).


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Posted By: tommyzai
Date Posted: 01/22/2009 at 11:49pm
Wink


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Posted By: tommyzai
Date Posted: 01/22/2009 at 11:50pm
A fresh blade in an Xacto Knife is best in my book!
Put a smooth piece of cardboard like the package the rubber came in or a priority/express mail envelop in between racket and a cutting board. This will help the  knife blade stay sharper longer.
Scissors will not give as clean a cut; however, they work better for cutting OX rubbers or pips on thin sponge.
:-).


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Posted By: tommyzai
Date Posted: 01/22/2009 at 11:53pm
BTW, I can cut rubbers neater and cleaner than the freakin' factory BABY!!! LOL
I should also mention that I was a NYC hair designer for 10-years and know how to use scissors. So, if I thought they were better I would certainly use them!!


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Posted By: Swiff
Date Posted: 01/23/2009 at 7:49pm
SO!  Tommyzai was a hair-stylist!  I just did not know that.  Maybe you give me my next hair cut? Spruce me up tommy?

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Date Posted: 01/29/2009 at 5:05am



Posted By: jonyer1980
Date Posted: 12/05/2012 at 3:36pm
Sorry for the necro-post, but i never heard of X-acto blades. I´m not sure it this will be appropiate:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/X-ACTO-Series-Knife-Cap-XZ3601/dp/B005KRSWM6/ref=sr_1_3?s=officeproduct&ie=UTF8&qid=1354738758&sr=1-3

Should it be proper for cutting rubbers? Has it got  replacement blades?





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Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 12/05/2012 at 4:40pm

Tommyzai is dead on right. Perfect cut with exacto knife and #11 blade. Fast and simple. Scissors are not as good but ok if you are in a situation where a really fast rubber change is needed. Thumbs Up



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Posted By: jatienza930
Date Posted: 12/05/2012 at 5:17pm
If you really want a nice, clean and even cut use disposable single edge razor blades. I can cut 2 euro/jap rubbers with one blade and for one for each chinese rubber. You can buy them at most supermarkets. i bought mine at a local ralphs supermarket for $2.99 per pack of 5 blades Big smile

Just be very, very careful LOL


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Posted By: danhs
Date Posted: 12/06/2012 at 10:47am
I always use scissors and have no trouble getting a perfectly smooth cut. it's easier to get such a result with any of the razor blades, BUT, if you accidentally use a dull one you'll get a bad cut every time. This is a non issue with scissors as they hardly ever need sharpening. Also scissors are less dangerous (I don't care about that so much, but some might), and in the long run cheaper. 


Posted By: Zhaoyang
Date Posted: 12/06/2012 at 11:05am
My first real X-Acto knife (like all X-Acto knives?) is solid metal.
The blades I chose are the X-Acto "Z Series" zirconium nitride coated, #11.
I've cut about three H3s and five 729s with the original blade, so far.
It works perfectly, and the handle makes it more carefree than single-edged blades.
 
 


Posted By: Stavros
Date Posted: 12/07/2012 at 4:47am
Knife  for Tenergy, scissors for Boost. Is impossible to cut properly Boost with knife !

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Posted By: mizutani_jun
Date Posted: 12/07/2012 at 2:27pm
Using both knife and scissors now.but still prefer scissors because i feel easier.


Posted By: assiduous
Date Posted: 12/07/2012 at 3:43pm
i have to use scissors because i cut 1mm outside the blade to account for shrinking because i move rubbers between my blades a lot. Also serves as protection for the edge of the blade.

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Posted By: tpgh2k
Date Posted: 12/07/2012 at 4:01pm
+1 assiduous!

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Posted By: Stavros
Date Posted: 12/08/2012 at 2:48pm
Originally posted by cagaragesales cagaragesales wrote:

wet the scissors. and while the scissors are still wet, cut the rubber


Agree, wet scissors and knives perform better.


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Posted By: tommyzai
Date Posted: 12/08/2012 at 3:05pm
Originally posted by Stavros Stavros wrote:

Originally posted by cagaragesales cagaragesales wrote:

wet the scissors. and while the scissors are still wet, cut the rubber


Agree, wet scissors and knives perform better.


Also, add a little dishsoap, like Palmolive.


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Posted By: tommyzai
Date Posted: 12/08/2012 at 3:06pm
Originally posted by Swiff Swiff wrote:

SO!  Tommyzai was a hair-stylist!  I just did not know that.  Maybe you give me my next hair cut? Spruce me up tommy?


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Posted By: tuco
Date Posted: 12/08/2012 at 11:09pm
Originally posted by peter79 peter79 wrote:

 
I use olfa cutter, the heavy duty one.
I also use samurai Scissors to cut my rubber. The brand is Shozaburo, very sharp, the sharpest scissors I've ever seen.


oooooooooooooohh...   Japanese steel!  Your instrument is very impressive.


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Posted By: Stavros
Date Posted: 12/09/2012 at 5:08am
Originally posted by tuco tuco wrote:

Originally posted by peter79 peter79 wrote:

 
I use olfa cutter, the heavy duty one.
I also use samurai Scissors to cut my rubber. The brand is Shozaburo, very sharp, the sharpest scissors I've ever seen.


oooooooooooooohh...   Japanese steel!  Your instrument is very impressive.


Impressive but costs around 150$.


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Posted By: TSuBaSa
Date Posted: 12/09/2012 at 6:00am


good quality curved scissors are just fine.




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Posted By: Stavros
Date Posted: 12/09/2012 at 6:05am

Victorinox, the notorious "swiss army knife" maker.


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Posted By: BH-Man
Date Posted: 12/09/2012 at 9:51am
Many Korean coaches prefer a box cutter that has perforated sections to snap off after using the blade a few times. They make ONE cut using heavy pressure to start. They have good control over the force and make a clean cut every time shaping it to the blade just fine.
 
This is the exact model. Myself, i like scisors. Can do teh job quick and good enough, especially if you use edge tape like i do. Many Korean coaches use this one, available here like real cheap.
 


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Posted By: Tinykin
Date Posted: 12/09/2012 at 1:19pm
Because of the shrink problem, you can use a padded insulation tape for the bat's edge. Thus when cutting the rubber there's an extra for shrinkage. Just remove the tape after cutting the rubber.

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Date Posted: 12/16/2012 at 8:58pm

Rubber cutting machine

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