Pictures of your 1-Ply Hinoki JPENs
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Topic: Pictures of your 1-Ply Hinoki JPENs
Posted By: Speedstick
Subject: Pictures of your 1-Ply Hinoki JPENs
Date Posted: 01/01/2011 at 7:10am
Hi to all JPEN-ers! post pictures of your 1-ply hinoki JPENs here. I wanna see them particularly the CUSTOM-mades and SPECIAL ones. Thanks!
------------- JOOLA Stellwag; Xiom Sigma Euro/Stiga Almana Sound ST
BUTTERFLY Red Kim Taek Soo; XIOM Omega IV
Lord, Grant what You command, and command what You will. -ST.AUGUSTINE
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Posted By: ttmutant
Date Posted: 01/01/2011 at 7:43am
Use the Search button:
http://www.mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13608&KW=ply+hinoki&title=pictures-of-your-oneply-hinoki-blade - http://www.mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13608&KW=ply+hinoki&title=pictures-of-your-oneply-hinoki-blade
http://www.mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17067&KW=ply+hinoki&title=1-ply-hinoki-blades - http://www.mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17067&KW=ply+hinoki&title=1-ply-hinoki-blades
http://www.mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=18079&KW=ply+hinoki&PN=7&title=1-ply-hinoki-blade - http://www.mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=18079&KW=ply+hinoki&PN=7&title=1-ply-hinoki-blade
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Posted By: stereotip
Date Posted: 01/01/2011 at 9:28am
Posted By: Speedstick
Date Posted: 01/01/2011 at 3:56pm
Thanks ttmutant.. already seen all of them.. those threads are not for JPENs particularly.
------------- JOOLA Stellwag; Xiom Sigma Euro/Stiga Almana Sound ST
BUTTERFLY Red Kim Taek Soo; XIOM Omega IV
Lord, Grant what You command, and command what You will. -ST.AUGUSTINE
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Posted By: Speedstick
Date Posted: 01/02/2011 at 1:01am
here's mine: Nittaku 'Master' Custom-made 10mm JPen (from jpenmaster)
------------- JOOLA Stellwag; Xiom Sigma Euro/Stiga Almana Sound ST
BUTTERFLY Red Kim Taek Soo; XIOM Omega IV
Lord, Grant what You command, and command what You will. -ST.AUGUSTINE
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Posted By: bagung
Date Posted: 01/02/2011 at 1:05am
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Posted By: bagung
Date Posted: 01/02/2011 at 1:06am
and my KKT Iruiru Special...
------------- TB ZLC, Innerforce ZLC, HK3, HH3, HL2 Cpen......
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Posted By: bagung
Date Posted: 01/02/2011 at 1:09am
my RSM Special....
------------- TB ZLC, Innerforce ZLC, HK3, HH3, HL2 Cpen......
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Posted By: bagung
Date Posted: 01/02/2011 at 1:12am
my modified Cypress Max...
------------- TB ZLC, Innerforce ZLC, HK3, HH3, HL2 Cpen......
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Posted By: Speedstick
Date Posted: 01/02/2011 at 1:15am
nice collection bagung! thanks for sharing!
------------- JOOLA Stellwag; Xiom Sigma Euro/Stiga Almana Sound ST
BUTTERFLY Red Kim Taek Soo; XIOM Omega IV
Lord, Grant what You command, and command what You will. -ST.AUGUSTINE
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Posted By: TT_haru
Date Posted: 01/02/2011 at 1:33am
Posted By: ChichoFicho
Date Posted: 01/02/2011 at 1:46am
Another Musashi.
------------- Darker Speed 70
Hammond FA Speed
Tyotokusen
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Posted By: tsanyc
Date Posted: 01/02/2011 at 9:34pm
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Posted By: rookies
Date Posted: 01/02/2011 at 11:43pm
tsanyc wrote:
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Nice blade.
------------- Timo Boll Spirit
FH: Hurricane 3 Neo
BH: Coppa X1 Turbo
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Posted By: Speedstick
Date Posted: 01/03/2011 at 2:03am
rookies wrote:
Nice blade. |
+1
------------- JOOLA Stellwag; Xiom Sigma Euro/Stiga Almana Sound ST
BUTTERFLY Red Kim Taek Soo; XIOM Omega IV
Lord, Grant what You command, and command what You will. -ST.AUGUSTINE
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Posted By: aeoliah
Date Posted: 01/05/2011 at 10:19pm
http://img522.imageshack.us/i/nittakuchotokusena80g00ba4.jpg/">
http://img100.imageshack.us/i/tabletennis006xp7.jpg/">
http://img515.imageshack.us/i/kokutakufrontwh9.jpg/"> Three of my single ply Hinoki collection.
------------- Member of the Single Ply Hinoki Club Viscaria Super ALC C-Pen Rasanter C48
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Posted By: Speedstick
Date Posted: 01/05/2011 at 11:03pm
aeoliah wrote:
http://img100.imageshack.us/i/tabletennis006xp7.jpg/">
Three of my single ply Hinoki collection.
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your speed90 is sealed?
------------- JOOLA Stellwag; Xiom Sigma Euro/Stiga Almana Sound ST
BUTTERFLY Red Kim Taek Soo; XIOM Omega IV
Lord, Grant what You command, and command what You will. -ST.AUGUSTINE
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Posted By: bleachfan92
Date Posted: 01/06/2011 at 5:18am
just for sharing purpose the blade i am using now. custom butterfly cpl shape 10mm
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Posted By: Speedstick
Date Posted: 01/06/2011 at 5:28am
bleachfan92 wrote:
just for sharing purpose the blade i am using now.
custom butterfly cpl shape 10mm |
just for sharing purpose only eh.. thanks bleach! nice straight grain..
------------- JOOLA Stellwag; Xiom Sigma Euro/Stiga Almana Sound ST
BUTTERFLY Red Kim Taek Soo; XIOM Omega IV
Lord, Grant what You command, and command what You will. -ST.AUGUSTINE
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Posted By: aeoliah
Date Posted: 01/06/2011 at 5:37am
Hi Speedstick I seal all of my blades without exception.
Bleachfan92 From the picture it seems that you sealed the blade face and not the sides. Am I correct ? What I do is seal lightly the blade face and seal the sides more, in order to protect it from bumping to the table.
------------- Member of the Single Ply Hinoki Club Viscaria Super ALC C-Pen Rasanter C48
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Posted By: Speedstick
Date Posted: 01/06/2011 at 5:43am
aeoliah wrote:
Hi Speedstick I seal all of my blades without exception. |
oh.. but your Nittaku Cho-Tokusen A from the picture doesn't look sealed.. am i right? why does my custom looks yellowish while yours looks white? they're both Cho-Tokusen A i think..
------------- JOOLA Stellwag; Xiom Sigma Euro/Stiga Almana Sound ST
BUTTERFLY Red Kim Taek Soo; XIOM Omega IV
Lord, Grant what You command, and command what You will. -ST.AUGUSTINE
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Posted By: ole77
Date Posted: 01/06/2011 at 8:53am
My new blade arrived yesterday. Thanks again to presports!
weight: 98 gr., thickness: 10,8 mm
------------- Member of the Single Ply Hinoki Club
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Posted By: bleachfan92
Date Posted: 01/06/2011 at 9:56am
to aeoliah, i do not seal my blades. the custom bty comes with a pre layer of seal after they finish making it and the layer is really really thin. small nicks on the edges can be recovered by dipping one or two drops of water into the nick. as hinoki is a softwood it absorbs the water and the grains would rise again. after the water DRIES a light sanding would return every thing to normal. sealing the edges is a irreversible process.
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Posted By: akwong88
Date Posted: 01/07/2011 at 1:21am
My First Generation Butterfly Cypress Special-------Best example of Kiso Hinoki Wood
------------- Bty Special Grade Small Size
FH Spinart Max BH Curl P3 Ox
Bty KTS Red Label
FH Tenergy 05 Max BH Joola Octopus 0.6mm
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Posted By: Speedstick
Date Posted: 01/07/2011 at 4:53am
RSM signature and deteriorating butterfly logo.. classic! is this you priced possession albert? thanks for sharing bro!
------------- JOOLA Stellwag; Xiom Sigma Euro/Stiga Almana Sound ST
BUTTERFLY Red Kim Taek Soo; XIOM Omega IV
Lord, Grant what You command, and command what You will. -ST.AUGUSTINE
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Posted By: tsanyc
Date Posted: 01/07/2011 at 9:24am
Posted By: akwong88
Date Posted: 01/07/2011 at 11:17am
Got this from a famous Hinoki collector in China he owns almost all the best Bty Hinoki Jpens including the legendary Bty Vintage 2001 Limited Edition. This blade plays better than all of my other Bty Cypress Custom Special that's why I am willing to let go of some of my Custom Special collection. It is 9.4mm 82g and is as powerful as any 10mm Custom Special but with better control due to better wood quality.
------------- Bty Special Grade Small Size
FH Spinart Max BH Curl P3 Ox
Bty KTS Red Label
FH Tenergy 05 Max BH Joola Octopus 0.6mm
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Posted By: Speedstick
Date Posted: 01/07/2011 at 4:33pm
hopefully less than a week from NY to KSA..
------------- JOOLA Stellwag; Xiom Sigma Euro/Stiga Almana Sound ST
BUTTERFLY Red Kim Taek Soo; XIOM Omega IV
Lord, Grant what You command, and command what You will. -ST.AUGUSTINE
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Posted By: Speedstick
Date Posted: 01/07/2011 at 4:44pm
akwong88 wrote:
Got this from a famous Hinoki collector in China he owns almost all the best Bty Hinoki Jpens including the legendary Bty Vintage 2001 Limited Edition. This blade plays better than all of my other Bty Cypress Custom Special that's why I am willing to let go of some of my Custom Special collection. It is 9.4mm 82g and is as powerful as any 10mm Custom Special but with better control due to better wood quality. |
2001 is vintage? how? show us some pics of it.
------------- JOOLA Stellwag; Xiom Sigma Euro/Stiga Almana Sound ST
BUTTERFLY Red Kim Taek Soo; XIOM Omega IV
Lord, Grant what You command, and command what You will. -ST.AUGUSTINE
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Posted By: akwong88
Date Posted: 01/07/2011 at 7:29pm
http://www.ssttc.com/forum/attachment.php?aid=166 - http://www.ssttc.com/forum/attachment.php?aid=166
This is the rarest and most expensive of all Hinoki Jpens
Sorry cannot connect the link to the Taiwan Forum!!!!!!
------------- Bty Special Grade Small Size
FH Spinart Max BH Curl P3 Ox
Bty KTS Red Label
FH Tenergy 05 Max BH Joola Octopus 0.6mm
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Posted By: aeoliah
Date Posted: 01/07/2011 at 8:00pm
The first picture is Cho Tokusen A, it is taken when it is brand new, so it is not yet sealed. The second is Darker Speed 90, and the third is Cho Super 10 mm from Kokutaku. Sorry, I am not good at taking pictures
------------- Member of the Single Ply Hinoki Club Viscaria Super ALC C-Pen Rasanter C48
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Posted By: Speedstick
Date Posted: 01/07/2011 at 11:52pm
posting for sy1935: his collection of RED KTS and RSM Platinum
------------- JOOLA Stellwag; Xiom Sigma Euro/Stiga Almana Sound ST
BUTTERFLY Red Kim Taek Soo; XIOM Omega IV
Lord, Grant what You command, and command what You will. -ST.AUGUSTINE
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Posted By: Speedstick
Date Posted: 01/07/2011 at 11:55pm
akwong88 wrote:
http://www.ssttc.com/forum/attachment.php?aid=166 - http://www.ssttc.com/forum/attachment.php?aid=166
This is the rarest and most expensive of all Hinoki Jpens
Sorry cannot connect the link to the Taiwan Forum!!!!!! |
no pics on the link.. maybe you can just save the pics then post it here. I want to see why it's the rarest and most expensive.
------------- JOOLA Stellwag; Xiom Sigma Euro/Stiga Almana Sound ST
BUTTERFLY Red Kim Taek Soo; XIOM Omega IV
Lord, Grant what You command, and command what You will. -ST.AUGUSTINE
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Posted By: akwong88
Date Posted: 01/08/2011 at 1:23am
This is the Butterfly Vintage Special Hinoki Jpen. 200 made and each with its wooden box and a numbered certificate of authenticity.
------------- Bty Special Grade Small Size
FH Spinart Max BH Curl P3 Ox
Bty KTS Red Label
FH Tenergy 05 Max BH Joola Octopus 0.6mm
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Posted By: Speedstick
Date Posted: 01/08/2011 at 1:33am
Posted By: bleachfan92
Date Posted: 01/08/2011 at 4:08am
it was 30k yen when sold by butterfly in 2001. commemoration of btys 50th anniversary. it should cost more than a thousand now.
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Posted By: Speedstick
Date Posted: 01/08/2011 at 4:19am
bleachfan92 wrote:
it was 30k yen when sold by butterfly in 2001. commemoration of btys 50th anniversary. it should cost more than a thousand now. |
wow bleach you knew about this blade too? maybe you have one eh.. i sent you a PM, can you answer me there? thanks.
------------- JOOLA Stellwag; Xiom Sigma Euro/Stiga Almana Sound ST
BUTTERFLY Red Kim Taek Soo; XIOM Omega IV
Lord, Grant what You command, and command what You will. -ST.AUGUSTINE
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Posted By: bleachfan92
Date Posted: 01/08/2011 at 4:58am
definitely not. this is too hard and too exp to get. i did consider about making a clone tho lol.
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Posted By: Speedstick
Date Posted: 01/08/2011 at 5:32am
bleachfan92 wrote:
definitely not. this is too hard and too exp to get. i did consider about making a clone tho lol. |
clone? can you show it us?
------------- JOOLA Stellwag; Xiom Sigma Euro/Stiga Almana Sound ST
BUTTERFLY Red Kim Taek Soo; XIOM Omega IV
Lord, Grant what You command, and command what You will. -ST.AUGUSTINE
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Posted By: aeoliah
Date Posted: 01/08/2011 at 9:18pm
Akwong88, I would call that my dream blade ! Looks really very nice ! Do you know the thickness ?
------------- Member of the Single Ply Hinoki Club Viscaria Super ALC C-Pen Rasanter C48
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Posted By: Speedstick
Date Posted: 01/14/2011 at 4:03am
finally, i got it! my nittaku custom jpen:
haven't played with it yet though..
------------- JOOLA Stellwag; Xiom Sigma Euro/Stiga Almana Sound ST
BUTTERFLY Red Kim Taek Soo; XIOM Omega IV
Lord, Grant what You command, and command what You will. -ST.AUGUSTINE
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Posted By: TT_haru
Date Posted: 01/14/2011 at 4:23am
Thought u gonna put a piece of Tenergy on it ...
Remember to file the underside at the handle portion (cock) too esp. if you r doing traditional BH or even for blocking
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Posted By: Speedstick
Date Posted: 01/14/2011 at 4:40am
TT_haru wrote:
Thought u gonna put a piece of Tenergy on it ...
Remember to file the underside at the handle portion (cock) too esp. if you r doing traditional BH or even for blocking |
some people suggested that i need to learn the basics with a slow rubber first..
------------- JOOLA Stellwag; Xiom Sigma Euro/Stiga Almana Sound ST
BUTTERFLY Red Kim Taek Soo; XIOM Omega IV
Lord, Grant what You command, and command what You will. -ST.AUGUSTINE
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Posted By: TT_haru
Date Posted: 01/14/2011 at 6:31am
Good, good. I have some 'unorthodox' penhold techniques (using wrist), we can exchange ideas. Maybe keeping a notebook on the things that you have learnt will help. Some sort of "secret" manual ...
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Posted By: tsanyc
Date Posted: 01/22/2011 at 4:17pm
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Posted By: bagung
Date Posted: 01/22/2011 at 9:19pm
my CPL spl...
------------- TB ZLC, Innerforce ZLC, HK3, HH3, HL2 Cpen......
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Posted By: bagung
Date Posted: 01/22/2011 at 9:20pm
------------- TB ZLC, Innerforce ZLC, HK3, HH3, HL2 Cpen......
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Posted By: akwong88
Date Posted: 01/27/2011 at 2:07am
------------- Bty Special Grade Small Size
FH Spinart Max BH Curl P3 Ox
Bty KTS Red Label
FH Tenergy 05 Max BH Joola Octopus 0.6mm
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Posted By: Speedstick
Date Posted: 01/27/2011 at 6:20am
akwong88 wrote:
My 4 Generations of the Famous Butterfly Cypress Special, first generation is without printing on the blade and is the rarest. |
awesome collection albert! 2nd one from the top has the tightest grains. which one is your signature blade?
------------- JOOLA Stellwag; Xiom Sigma Euro/Stiga Almana Sound ST
BUTTERFLY Red Kim Taek Soo; XIOM Omega IV
Lord, Grant what You command, and command what You will. -ST.AUGUSTINE
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Posted By: TT_haru
Date Posted: 01/27/2011 at 6:54am
The cock handle age more than the blade ...
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Posted By: Speedstick
Date Posted: 01/27/2011 at 7:13am
TT_haru wrote:
The cock handle age more than the blade ... |
I guess so since cork absorbs more sweat than the 1-ply hinoki itself.
------------- JOOLA Stellwag; Xiom Sigma Euro/Stiga Almana Sound ST
BUTTERFLY Red Kim Taek Soo; XIOM Omega IV
Lord, Grant what You command, and command what You will. -ST.AUGUSTINE
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Posted By: TT_haru
Date Posted: 01/27/2011 at 10:16am
The hinoki nowadays is different from those many years ago. Those times, they r like orange-brown in colour. Nowadays, they r all whitish. Maybe they r treated, I don't know ...
Cutting down hundred years tree to make blade seems "cruel". Anyway, they r going to be more and more valuable ...
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Posted By: tsanyc
Date Posted: 01/27/2011 at 10:24am
Posted By: TT_haru
Date Posted: 01/27/2011 at 10:27am
hahaha.... guess that word fills my head ...
Okay, I mean 'cork'....
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Posted By: tsanyc
Date Posted: 01/27/2011 at 10:29am
haha.... lol...hmmm
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Posted By: Speedstick
Date Posted: 01/27/2011 at 10:41am
TT_haru wrote:
hahaha.... guess that word fills my head ...
Okay, I mean 'cork'.... |
hehe.. very observant of you john.. hi TT_haru! i changed my rubber again with some old Donic rubber (could find it in the web so i guess its another extinct breed) Donic Easy-Slick (Made in Japan): i was thinking my Tornado's sponge is kinda dried-up..
------------- JOOLA Stellwag; Xiom Sigma Euro/Stiga Almana Sound ST
BUTTERFLY Red Kim Taek Soo; XIOM Omega IV
Lord, Grant what You command, and command what You will. -ST.AUGUSTINE
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Posted By: TT_haru
Date Posted: 01/27/2011 at 10:47am
How does it play?
BTW, I customized one from American Hinoki using ancient kauri wood. Waiting for the shipment. Wanna see how does it compare to haru?
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Posted By: Speedstick
Date Posted: 01/27/2011 at 10:50am
TT_haru wrote:
How does it play?
BTW, I customized one from American Hinoki using ancient kauri wood. Waiting for the shipment. Wanna see how does it compare to haru? |
haven't played with it yet.. hopefully later.. wow! you got that 50K y/o wood? yeah i wanna know how it plays. tell us about it.
------------- JOOLA Stellwag; Xiom Sigma Euro/Stiga Almana Sound ST
BUTTERFLY Red Kim Taek Soo; XIOM Omega IV
Lord, Grant what You command, and command what You will. -ST.AUGUSTINE
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Posted By: tsanyc
Date Posted: 01/27/2011 at 10:55am
easy slick? is that new?
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Posted By: Speedstick
Date Posted: 01/27/2011 at 11:01am
tsanyc wrote:
easy slick? is that new? |
it's old. i have search for it and found this: this one comes from ITTF website. It is used in Donic Waldner Series Pre-made bats.. I bought mine in a separate package. And if you noticed it, this one is made in Germany.
------------- JOOLA Stellwag; Xiom Sigma Euro/Stiga Almana Sound ST
BUTTERFLY Red Kim Taek Soo; XIOM Omega IV
Lord, Grant what You command, and command what You will. -ST.AUGUSTINE
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Posted By: akwong88
Date Posted: 01/27/2011 at 11:57am
awesome collection albert! 2nd one from the top has the tightest grains. which one is your signature blade?
The second one is a brand new second generation iron logo small size cypress special, it will never be played with cos I paid a ton of money for it, it does have the best grain pattern i have ever seen. My signature blade is the oldest one.
------------- Bty Special Grade Small Size
FH Spinart Max BH Curl P3 Ox
Bty KTS Red Label
FH Tenergy 05 Max BH Joola Octopus 0.6mm
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Posted By: bagung
Date Posted: 01/28/2011 at 5:51am
------------- TB ZLC, Innerforce ZLC, HK3, HH3, HL2 Cpen......
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Posted By: bagung
Date Posted: 01/28/2011 at 5:52am
------------- TB ZLC, Innerforce ZLC, HK3, HH3, HL2 Cpen......
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Posted By: bagung
Date Posted: 01/28/2011 at 6:26am
------------- TB ZLC, Innerforce ZLC, HK3, HH3, HL2 Cpen......
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Posted By: bagung
Date Posted: 01/28/2011 at 6:29am
------------- TB ZLC, Innerforce ZLC, HK3, HH3, HL2 Cpen......
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Posted By: tsanyc
Date Posted: 01/28/2011 at 10:36am
bagung wrote:
| Please write some reviews on this when possible. thanks!
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Posted By: pak abu
Date Posted: 01/28/2011 at 10:49am
tsanyc wrote:
bagung wrote:
| Please write some reviews on this when possible. thanks! |
+1
------------- DHS TG 506+
FH: JOOLA Rhyzm (black, max)
BH: YASAKA Rakza 7 Soft (red,2.0mm)
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Posted By: TT_haru
Date Posted: 01/28/2011 at 10:00pm
Posted By: Speedstick
Date Posted: 01/28/2011 at 11:47pm
TT_haru wrote:
Nice! ... |
Where's yours?
------------- JOOLA Stellwag; Xiom Sigma Euro/Stiga Almana Sound ST
BUTTERFLY Red Kim Taek Soo; XIOM Omega IV
Lord, Grant what You command, and command what You will. -ST.AUGUSTINE
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Posted By: hulkpens
Date Posted: 01/29/2011 at 12:26am
tsanyc wrote:
bagung wrote:
| Please write some reviews on this when possible. thanks! |
http://www.badeola.com/AmericanHinoki/bladeReviews.html - http://www.badeola.com/AmericanHinoki/bladeReviews.html
American Hinoki Reviews
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Posted By: TT_haru
Date Posted: 01/29/2011 at 12:35am
Speedstick wrote:
TT_haru wrote:
Nice! ... |
Where's yours? |
Somewhere out there ....
I go for a rounded-square shape instead since my style is pretty much close to table.
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Posted By: stefashka
Date Posted: 02/03/2011 at 8:47am
Here are my two most loved weapons:
Yasaka Musashi, with RPB rubber. I decided to convert from shakehand to penhold a few months ago when I finally found about RPB, so I developed my RPB using a usual shakehand T-11 blade, but found out that fingers get too sweaty too fast when they are on a flat rubber, so I decided to move to Jpens and fell in love with them quickly. The grip, the feel and the look are just out of this World
Here is the BH side of my Musashi:
I was trying some other blades too, but I had one problem which I couldn't solve for several weeks - I could not control the racket properly no matter which rubber I put on it. I was desperate until I finally decided to make a search for Jpen RPB on MyTT and quckly found the solution - I had to put something into the handle for proper balance! So, here we go - a screw and a door key head (two on the photo, but I removed one as it was enough)
So, now I'm enjoying Jpen and RPBing with it in full flavour
My training partner told me that my play is now too RPB-centric, so I decided to use another blade to make myself more forehandish and it really helped. Here it is:
It's BTY Cypress-S, very good and I enjoy it a lot together with the Thor's rubber.
The previous owner of the Cypress was playing RPB too and so he's removed most of the cork from the back, so I had to find some cork covering to restore ergonomics:
Before I've found the "magic key", my EJism was extremely wild. Now, it's moved more to the rubbers, but I've found that it's much easier to live with, especially when I have finally found that it's all about the balance
------------- Darker 7P-2A CP - Dignics 09c, TSP Curl P3α
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Posted By: aeoliah
Date Posted: 02/03/2011 at 9:07am
I did not know that adding weight to the handle will make rpb easier. How did you come to this solution ? Anyhow, thanks for this info.
------------- Member of the Single Ply Hinoki Club Viscaria Super ALC C-Pen Rasanter C48
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Posted By: Speedstick
Date Posted: 02/03/2011 at 10:07am
first time i saw such modification..
------------- JOOLA Stellwag; Xiom Sigma Euro/Stiga Almana Sound ST
BUTTERFLY Red Kim Taek Soo; XIOM Omega IV
Lord, Grant what You command, and command what You will. -ST.AUGUSTINE
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Posted By: stefashka
Date Posted: 02/03/2011 at 10:18am
aeoliah wrote:
I did not know that adding weight to the handle will make rpb easier. How did you come to this solution ? Anyhow, thanks for this info.
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Well, as I said, I just made search form "Jpen RPB" on MyTT and saw some pictures that gave me some clues But balancing the paddle is not about RPBing, it's about making the blade easier to handle (i.e. how easy your wrist can rotate the racket and change directions). Basically, moving balance to the head adds pluses to the racket's OFF value, it's easy to attack with this beast, but it's not good for short game because your wrist should spend more energy to stop racket's swing, so most balls will go over the table or into the net unless you have very good touch.
As about Jpen, the blades are build so that they're balanced properly when there is only one rubber sheet on the racket. Adding another sheet will break the original balance and you will have to restore it. My Cypress-S was modified so the BH rubber was cut in a larger piece than the FH (it was extended almost to the handle), that made the paddle very heavy, but the balance was somehow made almost the same as with one rubber, but I didn't like the feel on my back fingers, so I made it "normal Jpen". One day, I think I'll spend some bucks on the normal cork sheet for the Cypress-S because it's a really good one. Hope, it wakes some thoughts
------------- Darker 7P-2A CP - Dignics 09c, TSP Curl P3α
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Posted By: Nori
Date Posted: 02/03/2011 at 2:59pm
My favorite Jpen
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Posted By: takkugoku
Date Posted: 02/03/2011 at 3:23pm
Nice. Any pics showing grains in detail? Looks very similar to my Cypress S. Thickness and weight?
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Posted By: aeoliah
Date Posted: 02/03/2011 at 7:33pm
Good thinking, Stefashka
------------- Member of the Single Ply Hinoki Club Viscaria Super ALC C-Pen Rasanter C48
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Posted By: stefashka
Date Posted: 02/04/2011 at 5:45am
Here are the grains of my Cypress:
------------- Darker 7P-2A CP - Dignics 09c, TSP Curl P3α
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Posted By: akwong88
Date Posted: 02/04/2011 at 11:13am
Here is the best of all my Cypress Special with deep and tight grain pattern.
------------- Bty Special Grade Small Size
FH Spinart Max BH Curl P3 Ox
Bty KTS Red Label
FH Tenergy 05 Max BH Joola Octopus 0.6mm
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Posted By: pak abu
Date Posted: 02/04/2011 at 11:15am
Wow!!!...the grains are really tight..
------------- DHS TG 506+
FH: JOOLA Rhyzm (black, max)
BH: YASAKA Rakza 7 Soft (red,2.0mm)
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Posted By: chris.b40
Date Posted: 02/04/2011 at 11:17am
I commend you all on being able to play this style of table tennis...it is so difficult.
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Posted By: Speedstick
Date Posted: 02/05/2011 at 12:34am
Posted By: akwong88
Date Posted: 02/05/2011 at 1:03am
I have 4 Cypress Custom Special without printing and 4 with printing.
------------- Bty Special Grade Small Size
FH Spinart Max BH Curl P3 Ox
Bty KTS Red Label
FH Tenergy 05 Max BH Joola Octopus 0.6mm
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Posted By: TT_haru
Date Posted: 02/15/2011 at 6:31am
My rounded-squre AK ...
Kevin made a very good and balance blade. It doesn't vibrate as much as hinoki (too much IMO) but definitely much faster than it and much more controllable than ZLC haru ...
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Posted By: bagung
Date Posted: 02/15/2011 at 6:34am
TT_haru wrote:
My rounded-squre AK ...
Kevin made a very good and balance blade. It doesn't vibrate as much as hinoki (too much IMO) but definitely much faster than it and much more controllable than ZLC haru ...
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what is the weight and thickness...? thanks...
------------- TB ZLC, Innerforce ZLC, HK3, HH3, HL2 Cpen......
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Posted By: TT_haru
Date Posted: 02/15/2011 at 6:35am
mailto:93g@7mm - 93g@7mm ...
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Posted By: TT_haru
Date Posted: 02/17/2011 at 5:08am
After two sessions, like the blade more and more. It was very well-made and gives a very comfortable balance feeling. The rounded base cork handle makes turning the blade very easy and comfortable when blocking. The blade hardness is somewhere between medium and hard. It doesn't vibrate as much as hinoki but with the slight vibration, it still gives a good feel. It is hell lot faster than hinoki and very much controllable as compare to Butterfly ZLC. I like the sound of the ball hitting onto the blade. I put on T05FX so that I can compare with my Haru. It is like a controllable version of Haru. Fast but controllable. Short game over the table is good. Chop, push, flip, swing, etc. The blade also blocks well. It feels "dense" where I can drive, smash and loop with ease. Pull away a bit till mid-distance I can impart some "crazy" side-spin to my loop (could be due to T05FX as well).
In summary, I can't find anything unhappy about this blade and very tempted to order another one just for safe keeping. Anyway, thanks Kevin, you made an excellent blade!
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Posted By: aeoliah
Date Posted: 02/17/2011 at 7:40pm
TT_haru wrote:
mailto:93g@7mm - 93g@7mm ... |
Do you know what is the lightest blade that can be made ?
------------- Member of the Single Ply Hinoki Club Viscaria Super ALC C-Pen Rasanter C48
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Posted By: TT_haru
Date Posted: 02/17/2011 at 8:52pm
aeoliah wrote:
TT_haru wrote:
mailto:93g@7mm - 93g@7mm ... |
Do you know what is the lightest blade that can be made ?
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Even though AK is very dense, there is still a minimum thickness. Kevin recommends not less than 6.5mm. Anything less I believe it vibrates too much and lack strength/power. At 93g with the cork handle feels okay to me but at 6.5, u may get it below 90g.
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Posted By: bagung
Date Posted: 02/17/2011 at 8:57pm
i have totally different experience on my AK... it is control blade, just lack of power...... i try to put on Hexer+, Rakza 7, and i still found it lack of power compare to my other Hinoki 10mm....
------------- TB ZLC, Innerforce ZLC, HK3, HH3, HL2 Cpen......
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Posted By: TT_haru
Date Posted: 02/18/2011 at 12:43am
bagung wrote:
i have totally different experience on my AK...
it is control blade, just lack of power......
i try to put on Hexer+, Rakza 7, and i still found it lack of power compare to my other Hinoki 10mm.... |
That pretty strange since the other user (jonathan) mentioned that it is powerful but lacks refinement. And the other shakehand user has very good review too. Anyway ur cut is pretty similar to mine except the shape. I guess that's one thing about custom blade, you don't get two identical blade. May even be different portion of the wood ...
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Posted By: aeoliah
Date Posted: 02/18/2011 at 10:30am
I think in general, the thicker it is, the faster it becomes. So 10 mm blade will be faster than 7 mm blade. I have Kokutaku Cho Super 10 mm weighing only 80 grams, so I was hoping to get this Ancient Kauri 7 mm below 80 grams. My Nittaku Cho Tokusen 9 mm also weighs 80 grams.
------------- Member of the Single Ply Hinoki Club Viscaria Super ALC C-Pen Rasanter C48
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Posted By: TT_haru
Date Posted: 03/01/2011 at 11:54am
Out of ideas/innovation .... Basically take 'haru' and print RSM onto it ...
http://tt-japan.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1186 - http://tt-japan.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1186
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Posted By: Speedstick
Date Posted: 03/01/2011 at 4:58pm
TT_haru wrote:
Out of ideas/innovation .... Basically take 'haru' and print RSM onto it ...
http://tt-japan.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1186 - http://tt-japan.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1186
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do you think Ryu will actually use this one? i doubt!
------------- JOOLA Stellwag; Xiom Sigma Euro/Stiga Almana Sound ST
BUTTERFLY Red Kim Taek Soo; XIOM Omega IV
Lord, Grant what You command, and command what You will. -ST.AUGUSTINE
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Posted By: TT_haru
Date Posted: 03/01/2011 at 6:11pm
If he can control it, he will definitely be feared....
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Posted By: Speedstick
Date Posted: 03/02/2011 at 12:20am
TT_haru wrote:
If he can control it, he will definitely be feared.... |
have you already tamed yours? i would definitely like to try this one:
http://tt-japan.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5_7&products_id=1144 - http://tt-japan.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5_7&products_id=1144
------------- JOOLA Stellwag; Xiom Sigma Euro/Stiga Almana Sound ST
BUTTERFLY Red Kim Taek Soo; XIOM Omega IV
Lord, Grant what You command, and command what You will. -ST.AUGUSTINE
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Posted By: TT_haru
Date Posted: 03/02/2011 at 2:10am
Speedstick wrote:
TT_haru wrote:
If he can control it, he will definitely be feared.... |
have you already tamed yours? i would definitely like to try this one:
http://tt-japan.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5_7&products_id=1144 - http://tt-japan.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5_7&products_id=1144 |
Ha ha ha, AK is my love now. :)
One ply huh....
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Posted By: jpenmaster
Date Posted: 03/18/2011 at 3:23pm
------------- OSP Expert II w DNA Dragon Grip
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Posted By: jpenmaster
Date Posted: 03/18/2011 at 3:30pm
------------- OSP Expert II w DNA Dragon Grip
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