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Topic: Videos of Table Tennis England Grand Prix Finals
Posted By: vvk1
Subject: Videos of Table Tennis England Grand Prix Finals
Date Posted: 01/31/2019 at 4:42am
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A friend of mine has recorded a number of Grand Prix finals here in UK and asked to upload to my channel. I though people might be interested what is the level of TT in UK immediatedly below the top internationals like Pitchford and Drinkhall. Hope you like them. Playlist https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTlOzSp18ZefatoCPXa9Qa-8WPzorajkP" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTlOzSp18ZefatoCPXa9Qa-8WPzorajkP Jiawang Song vs Tianyuan Liu - Bath Grand Prix Final 2019: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uuu6CxgNKU4" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uuu6CxgNKU4 Jiawang Song vs Darius Knight - Cardiff Grand Prix Final 2018 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiSjyA80XSw" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiSjyA80XSw Jiawang Song vs Tian Yuan Lui - Preston Grand Prix Final 2018 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWe1SqOoBic" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWe1SqOoBic David McBeath vs Jiawang Song - K2 Crawley Grand Prix Final 2018 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt-weeXYS1U" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt-weeXYS1U Chris Doran vs Darius Knight - Jersey Grand Prix Final 2018 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIlZhgwZIy0" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIlZhgwZIy0
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Posted By: Odie
Date Posted: 02/01/2019 at 12:13am
| Thanks for posting these. |
Posted By: benfb
Date Posted: 02/02/2019 at 2:18am
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I'd guess the ratings of all the players to be around 1400. Oh, wait, this isn't another guess-the-rating thread? Darn, I was sure I could low ball all the other guesses. Good quality videos. And that Chris Doran really is a big fellow.
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Posted By: ghostzen
Date Posted: 02/02/2019 at 3:14am
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But 1400 in which area of the US 😉😉 probably 1200 in some.. Seriously cracking matches many thanks VVK1
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Posted By: vvk1
Date Posted: 02/02/2019 at 6:18am
| You're most welcome! |
Posted By: benfb
Date Posted: 05/21/2019 at 2:14am
I was reviewing these videos from a few months ago and realized that I really like watching Chris Doran play. It's like watching Heavyspin, only skinnier and stronger. Anyway, I hope you'll post more with him some time.
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Posted By: vvk1
Date Posted: 05/21/2019 at 6:18am
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Glad you like the videos. Chris's games are always quite entertaining. London Grand Prix is this coming weekend, so there should be new videos soon.
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Posted By: FruitLoop
Date Posted: 05/21/2019 at 1:39pm
| Yes Chris has ana amazing touch. He plays Belgian superleague and does very well. He's top 200 in the world ability I would estimate but hasn't appeared much internationally (been much overlooked by the powers that be I've heard!). |
Posted By: Odie
Date Posted: 05/21/2019 at 8:51pm
| Was Darius Knight ever a regular in the senior England team? |
Posted By: vvk1
Date Posted: 05/22/2019 at 4:14am
| He represented England in 2006 and 2008 WTTTCs. |
Posted By: mjamja
Date Posted: 05/22/2019 at 12:43pm
What happened with his TT career? Did he go off to University and/or get involved in a normal career? Mark - Curious minds want to know
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vvk1 wrote:Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 05/22/2019 at 12:44pm
Better players came on the scene. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: vvk1
Date Posted: 05/22/2019 at 1:14pm
Dunno, happened before I got back into TT here. Perhaps ghostzen or APW46 might be able to share some additional info.
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Posted By: FruitLoop
Date Posted: 05/22/2019 at 7:07pm
Only two, max three. Nowhere near enough to keep a player of his ability out if international scene. Look how many French and Germans play internationally.
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Posted By: darucla
Date Posted: 05/23/2019 at 7:50am
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Darius and Chris both play regularly in one star tournaments. I have seen them in local events here. Chris normally wins HTH. I suspect that Darius is one of those guys who didn't quite live up to his potential. He has some great shots, looks very strong. He has an England ranking of 9 now, Chris is 6. https://tabletennisengland.co.uk/rankings/senior-men/437/" rel="nofollow - https://tabletennisengland.co.uk/rankings/senior-men/437/
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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 05/23/2019 at 7:53am
Well depends on what you think keeps players out of the international scene. There are a least 5 players IN England who are much better and truly international. Darius still plays but he is not Engliah team material ahead of those players. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: FruitLoop
Date Posted: 05/23/2019 at 12:24pm
Drinkhall, Pitchford, Walker, ??? Doran is as good as any of the rest. He is better than McBeath for example.Who are these mystery much better players? Baggely or Jarvis? Chris is as good as those players.
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Posted By: ghostzen
Date Posted: 05/23/2019 at 1:49pm
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My rough take on it is Tier 1 Pitchford and Drinkhall Tier 2 Walker Just behind I would say. Tier 3 The others mentioned and a few more as well. Chris is pretty well king in the domestic GP Circuit for the last few years as very few if any of the really top 5 or 6 players play in those events now as they are abroad. Chris I think plays in Belgium and is a really steady performer in most things he does. Be great to see Darius and everyone else play from a watching point of view. London GP this weekend will be good with a couple of strong players at the top. Anyone going from the forum? |
Posted By: vvk1
Date Posted: 05/23/2019 at 2:22pm
I'll be there both days. Got the top seed in my open singles group on Sunday. Free coaching lesson ... :-) |
Posted By: ghostzen
Date Posted: 05/23/2019 at 3:01pm
Yep ...that'll do it!  One of the players I know is seeded 4 and if he's been playing much will be pretty strong. Hopefully be a good event. |
Posted By: FruitLoop
Date Posted: 05/24/2019 at 7:58pm
Are you about to play a former top 100 player? What an amazing experience.
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Posted By: vvk1
Date Posted: 05/27/2019 at 11:55am
The draw was even kinder to me. Aside from Grigory Vlasov, I got schooled by former Lithuanian men's champion, and former Latvian women's champion :-) |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 05/27/2019 at 12:39pm
Doran is what I would call a domestic player. I don't think his style would translate to international success. McBeath's game translates better though I could see him losing to Doran. Jarvis is younger but same, his game translates better than those 2 and I expect him to ultimately be better. Darius Knight is a good player, but top 150 is not going to do it for the national team these days, unless you have extra money to spend. Maybe he could replace McBeath if we tried? What does that get him? I am bloviating a bit, but that is my opinion. Most of the German guys who play are targetting top 50. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: mog1111
Date Posted: 05/27/2019 at 1:18pm
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Chris Doran v Jiawang Song, Hereford 2 star 30th Dec 2018. ------------- Yasaka Ma Lin Carbon FH: Tenergy 05fx BH: Spinlord Keiler |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 05/27/2019 at 2:31pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiSjyA80XSw" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiSjyA80XSw ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: vvk1
Date Posted: 05/29/2019 at 7:16am
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2019 London Grand Prix Final - Grigory Vlasov v Ismaila Akindiya: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZMLAeV9O7Y" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZMLAeV9O7Y
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Posted By: vvk1
Date Posted: 07/02/2019 at 2:02pm
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2019 Topspin Sports Burgess Hill Sussex Open 2* Open Singles final | Chris Doran v Darius Knight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnxdCH1R5v4" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnxdCH1R5v4
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Posted By: benfb
Date Posted: 07/05/2019 at 4:32am
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So do these guys, like, just meet in the final of every tournament in England? The matches I've seen have Chris winning, but that would be a limited selection. What do you think their overall head-to-head record is? It's a really interesting clash of styles. Darius is much more active (a lot more and faster footwork) and more aggressive in attacking. Chris seems to have gone to the Samsonov school of blocking, with great chop blocks and a lot of clever variation in his spin and speed. You would think that Darius would learn to adjust after a couple of matches, but in this video he was really struggling to accommodate all those blocks and off-speed/off-spin shots from Chris. Anyway, thanks for the cool video. Now if I could just figure out what's going on with Chris' hair (or lack thereof)...
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Posted By: vvk1
Date Posted: 07/05/2019 at 5:09am
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Nah, sometimes other decent players win :-) Table Tennis England is quite rubbish at any kind of match stats, so my gut feeling, based on anecdotal evidence and conversations with other people, Chris probably has won more over the course of history. As to styles, I've heard a couple of Chris's opponents mutter something along the lines of "he's not doing much, why am I losing ..." under their breath after losing a point :-) He has incredible touch and anticipation of opponent's next shot.
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Posted By: benfb
Date Posted: 07/05/2019 at 1:11pm
| Any idea what kind of setup Chris uses? |
Posted By: vvk1
Date Posted: 07/05/2019 at 1:26pm
| Last year I was lucky enough to umpire one his matches. I think he had a JOOLA Fever blade + Rhythm rubbers on both sides. |
Posted By: benfb
Date Posted: 07/06/2019 at 1:04am
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Posted By: vvk1
Date Posted: 07/06/2019 at 5:41am
Yes, it is. And Fever seems like a TBS clone.
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Posted By: vvk1
Date Posted: 07/09/2019 at 5:24pm
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Jiawang Song v Sam Mabey - Wolverhampton Grand Prix 2019 Final https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pedEmVlSSYE" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pedEmVlSSYE Grigory Vlasov v Ismaila Akindiya - London Grand Prix Final 2019 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APkLwvvLE6s" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APkLwvvLE6s Darius Knight vs Grigory Vlasov - Jersey Grand Prix Final 2019 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yIxcQzwS2M" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yIxcQzwS2M Grigory Vlasov and Radoslav Kamberov v Alim Hirji and Kim Daybell - London Grand Prix Doubles Final https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujcIPKA5jqI" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujcIPKA5jqI
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Posted By: benfb
Date Posted: 07/10/2019 at 2:43am
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It seems to me that I've seen Grigory Vlasov in videos from the Russian Premier league and tournaments from the Russian area. What's he doing playing in England? Also, people asked earlier why Damion hadn't achieved the heights of success once expected of him. It seemed to me that he had a complete meltdown in his match with Vlasov. You can't reach the top if you don't have the mental toughness. Thanks for the videos, but I'm sad thee is no Chris Doran versus Vlasov.
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Posted By: vvk1
Date Posted: 07/10/2019 at 4:52am
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I think he's doing some private coaching and/or summer camps:  P.S.: If I get a chance, I'll pass on your request to Chris and Grigory to meet each other in a Grand Prix final :-)
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Posted By: vvk1
Date Posted: 07/23/2022 at 5:38am
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Niall Cameron vs Darius Knight | Quarter Final | Crawley Grand Prix 19.09.2021 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91JlaRZacnA" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91JlaRZacnA |
Posted By: vvk1
Date Posted: 07/27/2022 at 1:42pm
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Sam Mabey (England #8) vs Lorestas Trampauskas (England #12) | Final | Crawley Grand Prix 19.09.2021 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh-O5bWdUP0" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh-O5bWdUP0 |
Posted By: vvk1
Date Posted: 07/31/2022 at 1:56pm
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Grigory Vlasov vs Radoslav Kamberov | Final | Preston Grand Prix 31.10.2021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9XLK5AsccA" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9XLK5AsccA
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Posted By: vvk1
Date Posted: 08/07/2022 at 1:09pm
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Vlasov hand switch + dropshot: https://youtu.be/b_wjiMB97mc" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/b_wjiMB97mc |
Posted By: vvk1
Date Posted: 08/10/2022 at 1:17pm
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Grigory Vlasov vs Chris Doran | Final | Hereford 2* 19.03.2022 https://youtu.be/Eh1RW-hGfEY" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/Eh1RW-hGfEY
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Posted By: vvk1
Date Posted: 08/14/2022 at 3:33pm
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Chris Doran vs Samuel Walker | Final | London Grand Prix 29.05.2022
https://youtu.be/K-hm3etpRII" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/K-hm3etpRII
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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 08/14/2022 at 4:12pm
Great match. For a player at Walker's level, his ball placement is incredibly unimaginative and unorthodox. Maybe it was the difference in perceived level/athleticism, but Doran was precisely the opposite. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: vvk1
Date Posted: 08/15/2022 at 2:09am
Yes, Doran definitely had a plan in mind and tactics to support it.
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Posted By: vvk1
Date Posted: 08/20/2022 at 5:48am
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Callum Evans (UK #9) vs Paul McCreery (UK #8) | Final | Gloucester Grand Prix 26.06.2022
https://youtu.be/duELC-2hOP8" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/duELC-2hOP8
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