2021 New Blades
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Topic: 2021 New Blades
Posted By: windysummer1
Subject: 2021 New Blades
Date Posted: 12/13/2020 at 6:11pm
Does anyone know what new blades BTY and Stiga will introduce in 2021?
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Posted By: flamingmdn
Date Posted: 12/13/2020 at 6:58pm
Dima and Franziska are expecting signature blades.
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Posted By: windysummer1
Date Posted: 12/13/2020 at 10:25pm
From which company?
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Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 12/14/2020 at 2:01am
windysummer1 wrote:
From which company? |
Of course BTY
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Posted By: Rollko
Date Posted: 12/14/2020 at 4:31am
Posted By: windysummer1
Date Posted: 12/14/2020 at 4:14pm
According to BTY website, Dima is using a custom made inner alc, wondering if the new blade under his name will replicate this. https://butterflyonline.com/players/ovtcharov-dimitrij/" rel="nofollow - https://butterflyonline.com/players/ovtcharov-dimitrij/
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Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 12/19/2020 at 2:55am
New blade from Butterfly, 5+2 ALC, hinoki outer plies.
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Posted By: Magic_M
Date Posted: 12/19/2020 at 5:42am
will be available (here in Europe) in March 2021
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Posted By: kindof99
Date Posted: 12/19/2020 at 10:33am
golded special edition? sky high price?
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Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 12/19/2020 at 11:42am
kindof99 wrote:
golded special edition? sky high price? |
19800 Yen so +/-180 EUR
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Posted By: windysummer1
Date Posted: 12/19/2020 at 12:02pm
What is the headsize? 157*150? And thickness?
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Posted By: windysummer1
Date Posted: 12/19/2020 at 1:13pm
looks like a sardius to me
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Posted By: Magic_M
Date Posted: 12/19/2020 at 1:22pm
windysummer1 wrote:
What is the headsize? 157*150? | Yes, - head size is 15,7 x 15,0 cm,
- thickness = 5,9 mm,
- weight = 87g
https://www.butterfly.co.jp/70th/product/" rel="nofollow - https://www.butterfly.co.jp/70th/product/
Someone told me, that the composition is: hinoki - alc - limba - kiri - limba - alc - hinoki
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Posted By: kindof99
Date Posted: 12/19/2020 at 1:28pm
Isn't the Sardius 3+2?
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Posted By: kiligolo
Date Posted: 12/19/2020 at 3:08pm
Same Blade but with ALC instead of Tamca carbon it seems...
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Posted By: Skynet
Date Posted: 12/19/2020 at 3:25pm
kiligolo wrote:
Same Blade but with ALC instead of Tamca carbon it seems... |
No, Sardius is 3+2 whereas this one is 5+2 as seen in the pictures on the Butterfly homepage; also: the composition Magic_M posted is correct.
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Posted By: nittakuball
Date Posted: 12/19/2020 at 10:07pm
May 1 ,2021?
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Posted By: TT newbie
Date Posted: 12/22/2020 at 5:02pm
I wish it was 160x152mm, could be a Cofferlait Neo...
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Posted By: liulin04
Date Posted: 12/22/2020 at 5:43pm
the new Effort blade looks like a rebranding of the Garadyia series
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Posted By: t64t64t64
Date Posted: 12/23/2020 at 7:24am
Kong Linhui Special was 6.2mm so this one should be a tad slower.
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Posted By: windysummer1
Date Posted: 01/04/2021 at 2:35am
Seems like these are the new Stiga blades in 2021. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnfIdhq6jyE" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnfIdhq6jyE
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Posted By: jpenmaster
Date Posted: 01/04/2021 at 8:34am
new LYJ blade
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Posted By: kindof99
Date Posted: 01/04/2021 at 11:23am
A remake for the ZJK super zlc, maybe?
jpenmaster wrote:
new LYJ blade |
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Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 01/05/2021 at 1:05pm
New Stiga blades:
Clipper Wood 40th Anniversary Edition Clipper Wood Liu Guoliang Edition Inspira CCF (Close Core Fiber) Dynasty Carbon Xu Xin Edition 2021 Golden 45 Sweden 2021
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Posted By: windysummer1
Date Posted: 01/14/2021 at 7:53am
Ray wrote:
New Stiga blades:
Clipper Wood 40th Anniversary Edition Clipper Wood Liu Guoliang Edition Inspira CCF (Close Core Fiber) Dynasty Carbon Xu Xin Edition 2021 Golden 45 Sweden 2021
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How about BTY blades?
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Posted By: pitigoi
Date Posted: 01/14/2021 at 2:41pm
Paddle palace has "Introductory Specials" on:
Nittaku Mima Ito Carbon Nittaku Violin Carbon Inner Yasaka Falck Carbon Yasaka Falck W7 Stiga Energy Wood WRB V2 Stiga Banda Allround
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Posted By: TT newbie
Date Posted: 01/14/2021 at 7:35pm
What I don´t like in new blades is the standard headsize. If you measure them probably will discover that 9 out of 10 have a 157x150mm headsize. I miss blades like Cofferlait or Gergely.
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Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 01/17/2021 at 12:14pm
windysummer1 wrote:
Ray wrote:
New Stiga blades:
Clipper Wood 40th Anniversary Edition Clipper Wood Liu Guoliang Edition Inspira CCF (Close Core Fiber) Dynasty Carbon Xu Xin Edition 2021 Golden 45 Sweden 2021
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How about BTY blades? |
For now, Butterfly Effort FL, 70th Anniversary limited edition blade:
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Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 01/20/2021 at 3:52am
New Butterfly blades:
Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC Maze Advance
Butterfly Tenergy 19 rubber will be released on March 1.
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Posted By: aerial
Date Posted: 01/20/2021 at 5:07pm
anyone know if the LYJ SZLC is inner or outer carbon?
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Posted By: windysummer1
Date Posted: 01/20/2021 at 9:58pm
Ray wrote:
New Butterfly blades:
Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC Maze Advance
Butterfly Tenergy 19 rubber will be released on March 1.
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Is Maze Advance an all wood blade?
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Posted By: windysummer1
Date Posted: 01/20/2021 at 10:44pm
Here are the pics for the first 3 new BTY blades in 2021. https://www.butterfly-global.com/en/products/detail/37121.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.butterfly-global.com/en/products/detail/37121.html , https://www.butterfly-global.com/en/products/detail/37091.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.butterfly-global.com/en/products/detail/37091.html , https://www.butterfly-global.com/en/products/detail/37131.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.butterfly-global.com/en/products/detail/37131.html
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Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 01/20/2021 at 11:36pm
windysummer1 wrote:
Here are the pics for the first 3 new BTY blades in 2021. https://www.butterfly-global.com/en/products/detail/37121.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.butterfly-global.com/en/products/detail/37121.html , https://www.butterfly-global.com/en/products/detail/37091.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.butterfly-global.com/en/products/detail/37091.html , https://www.butterfly-global.com/en/products/detail/37131.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.butterfly-global.com/en/products/detail/37131.html | the FRANZISKA INNERFORCE ZLC is a direct competitor to the Apolonia and the solid IF ZLC. I predict a great career for the blade.Those blades are beautiful, Butterfly outdid themselves.
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Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 01/21/2021 at 1:37am
windysummer1 wrote:
Is Maze Advance an all wood blade? |
Yes, 5 ply all wood, available with FL handle only.
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Posted By: remo74
Date Posted: 01/21/2021 at 9:00am
aerial wrote:
anyone know if the LYJ SZLC is inner or outer carbon? |
The layer is outer
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Posted By: windysummer1
Date Posted: 01/24/2021 at 9:27pm
Here are the prices for the new BTY blades in USA. https://shop.butterflyonline.com/Lin-Yun-Ju-Super-ZLC-Blade-1254" rel="nofollow - https://shop.butterflyonline.com/Lin-Yun-Ju-Super-ZLC-Blade-1254 , https://shop.butterflyonline.com/Ovtcharov-Innerforce-ALC-Blade-1256" rel="nofollow - https://shop.butterflyonline.com/Ovtcharov-Innerforce-ALC-Blade-1256 , https://shop.butterflyonline.com/Franziska-Innerforce-ZLC-Blade-1257" rel="nofollow - https://shop.butterflyonline.com/Franziska-Innerforce-ZLC-Blade-1257 , https://shop.butterflyonline.com/Maze-Advance-Blade-1255" rel="nofollow - https://shop.butterflyonline.com/Maze-Advance-Blade-1255
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Posted By: kindof99
Date Posted: 01/25/2021 at 9:23am
How come BTY not produce an Inner force with Koto outlayer?
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Posted By: Zwill
Date Posted: 01/25/2021 at 11:07am
kindof99 wrote:
How come BTY not produce an Inner force with Koto outlayer? |
I don't want to hype Butterfly, but they seem like a company who are engeneering their blades/rubbers and not just randomly shooting in the dark or copying. So I would imagine they don't measure a benefit to a koto outer layer.
From these blades only the Ovtcharov seems to bring something "new", with slightly thicker blade. DHS did it with the newer "X" series, and I think even the Harimoto ALC is a thicker than standard Inner ALC. I suppose Ovtcharov has more raw power compared to Harimoto hence the need for stiffer blade.
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Posted By: kindof99
Date Posted: 01/25/2021 at 12:38pm
Ovtcharov used to use W968, so probably not just another version of Inn Layer alc, but a little more different
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Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 01/25/2021 at 12:55pm
New Mizuno blades:
Fortius FT RE Fortius FT ver.DE RE
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Posted By: windysummer1
Date Posted: 01/29/2021 at 5:54pm
Stiga Inspira Blade https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvQhDkhE2vY" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvQhDkhE2vY
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Posted By: Mickael
Date Posted: 01/30/2021 at 7:28am
Ovtcharov is something totally new the first inner fiber alc that is faster and stiffer than outer traditional alc.
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Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 01/30/2021 at 2:59pm
As an Apolonia ZLC fan, the Franziska Innerforce ZLC caught my eye. So now we have in that construction:- Innerforce-ZLC http://shop.butterflyonline.com/innerforce-layer-zlc" rel="nofollow - https://shop.butterflyonline.com/innerforce-layer-zlc - Apolonia ZLC http://shop.butterflyonline.com/apolonia-zlc-blade" rel="nofollow - https://shop.butterflyonline.com/apolonia-zlc-blade - Harimoto ZLC http://shop.butterflyonline.com/Harimoto-Innerforce-ZLC" rel="nofollow - https://shop.butterflyonline.com/Harimoto-Innerforce-ZLC - Franziska ZLC http://shop.butterflyonline.com/Franziska-Innerforce-ZLC-Blade-1257" rel="nofollow - https://shop.butterflyonline.com/Franziska-Innerforce-ZLC-Blade-1257
They have all limba outer. Are core and medial plies made out the same material, no matter thicknesses?
They already have enough IF ZLC blades to start a collection :)
I played a lot with the original slightly bigger IF ZLC and now with the Apolonia. I have no doubt IF ZLC construction is a winning formula for beginner to intermediate club players. Slow enough to learn fine with slower more controllable rubbers all the way to where they want.
Hypothesis: The top players go more towards ALC the same way tennis pros go with higher tension: since they have strength and speed in reserve, they prefer predictability with higher tension even though it requires more force into the stroke. The tt pro will prefer ALC for the same reason: less dwell, less elasticity gives more control despite the required additional muscle which they do not lack.
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Posted By: ThePongProfessor
Date Posted: 02/05/2021 at 1:17pm
stiltt wrote:
Theory: The top players go more towards ALC the same way tennis pros go with higher tension: since they have strength and speed in reserve, they prefer predictability with higher tension even though it requires more force into the stroke. The tt pro will prefer ALC for the same reason: less dwell, less elasticity gives more control despite the required additional muscle which they do not lack.
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Except for the word "Theory" (should be "hypothesis"), I completely agree. This is also - partly - the reason why advanced players use hard max rubbers (which dampen energy, and not generate energy).
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Posted By: KLHfans
Date Posted: 02/05/2021 at 7:11pm
LYJ szlc should be identical to ZJK szlc and it should be outer zlc layer.
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Posted By: MAR_PL
Date Posted: 02/07/2021 at 9:17am
Butterfly Europa
New blades: Boll Forte 2021 Boll Fortissimo Boll Mezzoforte
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Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 02/07/2021 at 2:46pm
ThePongProfessor wrote:
stiltt wrote:
Theory: The top players go more towards ALC the same way tennis pros go with higher tension: since they have strength and speed in reserve, they prefer predictability with higher tension even though it requires more force into the stroke. The tt pro will prefer ALC for the same reason: less dwell, less elasticity gives more control despite the required additional muscle which they do not lack.
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Except for the word "Theory" (should be "hypothesis"), I completely agree. This is also - partly - the reason why advanced players use hard max rubbers (which dampen energy, and not generate energy). | edited, thanks! I'm still struggling with my machete when adventuring on the science path.
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Posted By: ThePongProfessor
Date Posted: 02/07/2021 at 3:02pm
[/QUOTE]edited, thanks! I'm still struggling with my machete when adventuring on the science path.[/QUOTE]
No worries. Probably the only word that is more misused than "theory" is "historic"
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Posted By: windysummer1
Date Posted: 02/07/2021 at 3:10pm
MAR_PL wrote:
Butterfly Europa
New blades: Boll Forte 2021 Boll Fortissimo Boll Mezzoforte
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Where are they made (in which country)? Thanks.
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Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 02/07/2021 at 3:50pm
Hungary. Does it matter?
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Posted By: windysummer1
Date Posted: 02/07/2021 at 6:05pm
No just curious. Omar Assar is also made in that country. Not sure if OEM is OSP?
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Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 02/08/2021 at 6:10am
windysummer1 wrote:
No just curious. Omar Assar is also made in that country. Not sure if OEM is OSP? |
Be sure it is not.
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Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 02/19/2021 at 2:57am
Froster, new blade from Sanwei.
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Posted By: windysummer1
Date Posted: 02/19/2021 at 2:36pm
Nice design from Sanwei
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Posted By: windysummer1
Date Posted: 02/21/2021 at 10:24am
http://www.ttshop.cn/goods.php?id=4864" rel="nofollow - http://www.ttshop.cn/goods.php?id=4864 , LOKI FALCON CARBON
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Posted By: windysummer1
Date Posted: 02/21/2021 at 10:25am
windysummer1 wrote:
http://www.ttshop.cn/goods.php?id=4864" rel="nofollow - http://www.ttshop.cn/goods.php?id=4864 ,LOKI FALCON CARBON |
INNER CARBON 5+2
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 02/23/2021 at 1:04am
xiom carbon blades with different handle colors and a crystal.
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Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 03/04/2021 at 6:14am
Nittaku Tribus and Tribus Carbon blades.
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Posted By: mon22
Date Posted: 03/13/2021 at 8:59pm
yasaka coming out with a lot of blades made in china
Ordered
Yasaka Atletico Power Yasaka Alnade Inner (not 2021 but didn’t find too much info on it)
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Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 03/14/2021 at 3:51am
Yasaka Alnade Inner was mentioned in the "New Equipment 2018" topic here and Atletico Power was released in China two years ago IIRC.
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Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 03/23/2021 at 6:47am
New Darker blades:
Avantir Inpegno Aqua Selas CNF Classic 5 CNF Liberta Glorious
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Posted By: rmdec
Date Posted: 07/15/2021 at 11:43pm
Any more information on the Glorious? I see the Glorious on sale on TT11, I can't find any review or further information about it. Iruiru doesn't seem to have it yet (unless I'm blind)
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Posted By: mon22
Date Posted: 08/15/2021 at 5:45pm
stiltt wrote:
As an Apolonia ZLC fan, the Franziska Innerforce ZLC caught my eye. So now we have in that construction:- Innerforce-ZLC http://shop.butterflyonline.com/innerforce-layer-zlc" rel="nofollow - https://shop.butterflyonline.com/innerforce-layer-zlc - Apolonia ZLC http://shop.butterflyonline.com/apolonia-zlc-blade" rel="nofollow - https://shop.butterflyonline.com/apolonia-zlc-blade - Harimoto ZLC http://shop.butterflyonline.com/Harimoto-Innerforce-ZLC" rel="nofollow - https://shop.butterflyonline.com/Harimoto-Innerforce-ZLC - Franziska ZLC http://shop.butterflyonline.com/Franziska-Innerforce-ZLC-Blade-1257" rel="nofollow - https://shop.butterflyonline.com/Franziska-Innerforce-ZLC-Blade-1257
They have all limba outer. Are core and medial plies made out the same material, no matter thicknesses?
They already have enough IF ZLC blades to start a collection :)
I played a lot with the original slightly bigger IF ZLC and now with the Apolonia. I have no doubt IF ZLC construction is a winning formula for beginner to intermediate club players. Slow enough to learn fine with slower more controllable rubbers all the way to where they want.
Hypothesis: The top players go more towards ALC the same way tennis pros go with higher tension: since they have strength and speed in reserve, they prefer predictability with higher tension even though it requires more force into the stroke. The tt pro will prefer ALC for the same reason: less dwell, less elasticity gives more control despite the required additional muscle which they do not lack.
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Played with the new Franziska ZLC
more dwell than apolonia and a little bit more balance (slightly less head heavy)
Can’t comment on everything else yet because of different FH rubbers; once fh rubber comes I’ll transfer rubbers directly to the Franziska ZLC to get an accurate comparison
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