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Topic: reading serves from new players
Posted By: blahness
Subject: reading serves from new players
Date Posted: 03/12/2021 at 6:17am
I find it really weird being a fairly good server, that during matchups with new players on my level I kind of fall victim to their serve patterns and take something like maybe 5 sets to adjust and read their serves properly. It's a lot harder especially when the serve is not a standard looking serve and has some unique movements. 

How do you adjust to new serves quicker?


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Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 03/12/2021 at 9:55am
Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

I find it really weird being a fairly good server, that during matchups with new players on my level I kind of fall victim to their serve patterns and take something like maybe 5 sets to adjust and read their serves properly. It's a lot harder especially when the serve is not a standard looking serve and has some unique movements. 

How do you adjust to new serves quicker?
I'd say with commitment. It seems your attitude is too intellectual at show time. Analyzing in between your matches presents 2 people in one: the player and the self coach. Those 2 need to merge in a match and need to fully trust each other and go for it. The number of errors will be less than if they confer too much and one bashes at the other in between points. 
I am sure you developed a technique in returning serves where you see paddle trajectory, contact location, swing speed and how much wood contact was applied. If there is too much of thinking about those factors it will take more time to adapt to newer serves. If we trust a technique and an approach that we know as valid, there will be a few mistakes but they will be more a question of reading spin which is a normal struggle v. new players.

Note: inspired by " http://https://theinnergame.com/inner-game-books/the-inner-game-of-tennis/" rel="nofollow - the inner game of tennis "


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Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 03/12/2021 at 11:49pm
Originally posted by stiltt stiltt wrote:

Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

I find it really weird being a fairly good server, that during matchups with new players on my level I kind of fall victim to their serve patterns and take something like maybe 5 sets to adjust and read their serves properly. It's a lot harder especially when the serve is not a standard looking serve and has some unique movements. 

How do you adjust to new serves quicker?
I'd say with commitment. It seems your attitude is too intellectual at show time. Analyzing in between your matches presents 2 people in one: the player and the self coach. Those 2 need to merge in a match and need to fully trust each other and go for it. The number of errors will be less than if they confer too much and one bashes at the other in between points. 
I am sure you developed a technique in returning serves where you see paddle trajectory, contact location, swing speed and how much wood contact was applied. If there is too much of thinking about those factors it will take more time to adapt to newer serves. If we trust a technique and an approach that we know as valid, there will be a few mistakes but they will be more a question of reading spin which is a normal struggle v. new players.

Note: inspired by " http://https://theinnergame.com/inner-game-books/the-inner-game-of-tennis/" rel="nofollow - the inner game of tennis "

Hmm yeah I tend to want to analyse the serve to see how it works, and sometimes when I don't have a good read I kinda don't have a good plan :( 
The hardest ones are those who disguise the serve very well just like me, where it's almost the same blade angle for different serves, and you actually have to read the direction of force applied.

I reckon if I played against myself I'll be disgusted by myself too and only have a 50% success rate in receiving serves...


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FH: Dignics 09c
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Posted By: obesechopper
Date Posted: 03/13/2021 at 2:16am
You need to get the VR game ELEVEN and practice in there! Get an exposure to tons of players and see how their different serves go. 


Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 03/14/2021 at 7:58am
Originally posted by obesechopper obesechopper wrote:

You need to get the VR game ELEVEN and practice in there! Get an exposure to tons of players and see how their different serves go. 

What is that?


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Hurricane Long 5

FH: Dignics 09c
BH: Tenergy 05


Posted By: BRS
Date Posted: 03/14/2021 at 9:35am
If you are missing receives aim for the center of the table to give yourself maximum room for error until you start to figure them out.


Posted By: obesechopper
Date Posted: 03/14/2021 at 9:34pm
Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

Originally posted by obesechopper obesechopper wrote:

You need to get the VR game ELEVEN and practice in there! Get an exposure to tons of players and see how their different serves go. 

What is that?

The virtual reality game eleven! Look up ttdailys review on it a short while ago. 



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