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speedy
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Posted: 08/07/2009 at 1:08am |
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SPEEDY
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speedy, your EB7 is a bit lighter.. the one i tried was about 92 grams!! i guess these blades wont go below 87 grams
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peter79
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The letter in the plastic logo is not even. It seems stiga has quality control issue.
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Stavros
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I've also just bought an Ebenholz NCT VII, flared (master) handle though.
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Stavros
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Mine seems very good. I can tell more when I pull from the blade a glued rubber. |
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I'm very curious about your review Speedy.
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LittleFish.Net
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Although it is just cosmetic, Stiga should do a better QC job for a $140+ blade. Nonetheless, I like the dark color of the stain that Stiga uses. If Darth Vader plays table tennis, this would be his blade @speedy: Please let us know how these blades play. |
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Asaomi
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uhm...no?? darth vader would either use his force to completely control the ball and choked the umpire if he protestated. if he did use a blade however it would be red, the colour of his light saber. jeez... |
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Oh, but ITTF rule 2.04.06 forbids the dark lord from using a single color light saber/blade and rule 3.01.01 says the use of "The Force" is strictly prohibited. However, he could throw his light saber/blade just like Chen Weixing but instead at the table, right at the umpire |
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OMG WHAT DID I JUST SAY..?! Darth Vader is the apprentice of the emperor and one of the most powerful siths in the universe. ah screw it... lol |
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Butterfly Viscaria
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speedy
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The quality is not as good as Butterfly. |
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SPEEDY
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speedy
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Ok, it's not much to talk about. I have to say that I don't like this blade at all. I tried this blade with Stiga Royal on my backhand and on my forehand, I tried Cermet, Bryce Speed, and Sriver G2 FX. They are ok, but NOT that great. I can loop from close to the table with no issue. However, it's not so great when I am 4 feet or more away from the table. It's ok for spinny consistent loop, but not for power loop. I don't feel the power with this blade for some reasons. It's going to my collection I am very disappointed with this blade. I wonder if you guys have tried it with different rubbers. Which one? I don't see the kick I am looking for with this blade. I will have to take my T5000 to tournament for now. |
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SPEEDY
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yogi_bear
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speedy how bout trying chinese rubbers on it? maybe its a close to the table blade?
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I think soft Chinese rubber will probably be ok; however, it will be heavier. My rely wrist shot on my backhand a lot. So, I will not like it. |
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tiehwen
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Wow....Speedy kinda hinted that he might let 1 of these go here, so keep ur eyes on the Court (FS section) in due course.
I noticed that the Label "EBENHOLZ" is not quite centred in the "Lens" of the handle. Am I not alone here to notice that?
I personally would go for an used "EBENHOLZ V" to see what the fuss is all about with these "EBENHOLZzzzzz".
My local high rated buddy, PEONEATER, might have these sooner or later and if I'm in good behaviour he might let me try/play with these.....
R U watching, Peon?
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Yes, I already sold one of them. One of my friends bought it from me last week |
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ejmaster
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Hi,
The problem with stiga ebenholz vii is that the handle is completely hollow so it is not solid at all.
I discovered that because the lens in the handle went out and i just break the wood below so it comes comletely hollow ???, not as donic that is hollow but the main wood plate is there.
And you feel in the hand when you play that something is wrong, there it is.
It is a pity stiga keeps on building such a non solid handle.
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speedy
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Wow... I didn't know that. Thank you for sharing with us. Do you have pictures of this problems? I am thinking about writing Stiga a letter of recommendation. They need to stop that non-sense hollow handles design. They don't need to stop 100%, but they need to create 50% of this and 50% of that, so that, they can meet everyone needs/styles. |
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ejmaster
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i tried to upload the image but it is too large but i will try again.
but i completely agree with you that a lot of people like me dont like non solid handles.
the thing is that ebenholz legend handle (i bought legend better than master because the blade is more balanced than master) that way makes the blade with a bad feeling (inconsistency). But the wood and the blade i like it,it is a good looping one. I like stiga blades but not at all non solid handles.
Maybe chen qi was used to wrb energy and that handle fits well for him, but a lot of people do not like wrb.
And non wrb if the handle is hollow is the same. And i mean absolutely hollow. donic hollow handle is more solid because the plate is there.
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Resize the picture using MS Picture Manager. |
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SPEEDY
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ejmaster
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i also bought peter handle (thats why i am an ejmaster lol)
In general i like legend primary because lately peter handle was too slim in stiga.
however peter handle in ebenholz is thick enough.
i do not break wood below lens but it feels the same as in the legend handle, so it has the same problem. i feel it hollow handle.
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In any case all brands have noticeable difference between the same blade depending on the year of production or whatever.
Some examples:
* There are timo boll spirit from 2 - 3 years ago different from 7 years ago. thiner and stiffer (the modern). i like the old ones, do not like the 2-3 years ago. and tb alc is not exactly the same (more flexible) but it is more like the old ones.
So a guy can buy a tbs and think that do not like or better like alc but however there is a better tbs.
ma long tbs is and old one (i mean it can be new, but it is old construction). that is the best tbs.
viscaria in those old years is also a wonderful blade.
not so much difference but happens also to m maze. 3 blades from different years 3 different blades.
* HK. I have 3 from 2005 and different from 2007, 2008. better from 2005, thicker handle, and thicker outer layers.
* of course stiga oc, and allround. much better very old ones.
* acoustic. however violin is the same blade almost always.
* YEO. there are more flexible, and stiffer. And the difference is noticeable.
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Stavros
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I have 3 Clippers. First has been bought in 1986, second in 1995 and the third in 2004. The oldest was the thickest. That Clipper has similar performance as Tube OFF. I have an Ebenholz VII, haven't played it yet, but the weight balance and finishing seems perfect. That particular blade was send from Stiga to a shop for promotion. Master handle. |
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Jorlin
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Stiga Ebenholz
Some of the Chinese national use them like Chen Qi. Even when he has a sposordeal whith butterfly. So the blade speaks for itsself. Its a speedfreak. |
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MaLong
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I have to disagree. At most, the VII is "off" in terms of speed.
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i hope the Ebon VII is not as stiff as Clipper CR.....
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Agree. |
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Hi to everyone!
i have some questions regarding the Ebenholz VII.
But first of all i want to know when you say you have played or tested it - what do you mean - do you practise regularly - like 5 times per week, competitions, etc. I don`t mean to underestimate anyone of you, but for me the regular practice with one blade can give a good opinion.
Has anyone tried it (Ebenholz VII) with Tenergy 05? (the topic is quite long so i didn`t read all of it)
Currently i`m playing with a very very very veeeeery old Double Happiness - probably 30 years old blade - repaired a couple of times. So i want to change it with Ebenholz VII. I read some of you compare it to some other chinese blades and to Schlager Carbon and so on, but in fact the Ebenholz is just a normal wood blade, right? So compared to Korbel, Andro Kinetic Explorer, Donic Waldner Senso? How fast is Ebenholz VII? compared to these 3 blades? My expectations for it - is it fast as the kinetic explorer? How stiff is it? i hope it`s not as stiff as Primoraccarbon for example, but still a lot harder than Korbel. What about vibrations? Does it vibrate like my Gillete Fusion power? Or just normal feedback with a lot of feeling after therebound?
thnx in advance!
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