Timo Boll T5000 and ALC

I have got my blades today.  I tried them both tonight.  I have to say I am very happy with both of them; however, I like the T5000 much better.  It has very little vibration and very very good control on both forehand and backhand.  I like the T5000 for close-to-the-table counter looping.  It's really good.  T5000 is very similar to Schlager Carbon; however, it's a little bit slower.  If you say Schlager Carbon is a 10, then the T5000 is about 9.  It's not a big difference.

ALC is good too.  It's much better than the Timo Boll Spirit, and in fact, it's better than Michael Maze (on the forehand).  So, I would pick Timo Boll ALC over TBS and Maze any day.  Between T5000 and ALC, of course, I would pick T5000.  It's better.

Sorry, this is a brief review.  If you have any specific question(s), please post them.

They are NOT the same, not even almost.  TBALC is much better, and it is faster and feel better too. 

TBS might be more control, but it sucks.  I have one and I swear I hit with that thing less than 1 minute which was about 5 balls.

johnny89atc wrote: Nice blades speedy (again!). What are the differences between TBALC and TBS? Most people find them almost the same blade...

Any vibration on the ALC

Yes, but not much at all.  ALC has more vibration than T5000.

nittakuball wrote: Any vibration on the ALC

how does the t5000 compare to the mizutani jun if you've played with that...

speedy wrote: Yes, I used Mizutani before.  I like T5000 better.  T5000 is faster and good control.  I always feel like I need more power every time I smashed the ball with Mizutani.  With the T5000, I scared myself every time I smash the ball.  It's fast and accurate.

Sounds like love at first swing... I wonder how long it will last

speedy wrote: For me, I think it's perfect dwell time.� I could smash or loop with no problems. acer800 wrote: how is topspin looping on the T5000? Is there a lot of dwell time resulting in good topspin?

Oh i see. Is the dwell time longer than ALC though?

speedy wrote: acer800 wrote: speedy wrote: For me, I think it's perfect dwell time.� I could smash or loop with no problems. acer800 wrote: how is topspin looping on the T5000? Is there a lot of dwell time resulting in good topspin? Oh i see. Is the dwell time longer than ALC though? I would say the dwell time is about the same, but because the control of the T5000, I feel better and it seemed like the dwell time on T5000 is longer.

wow that sounds like a very nice blade to use. I personally use a ALC right now and this has only been like a couple of weeks, so I'm still tempted to buy T5000 now =D!!!
Would you say there's any advantages the ALC have over the T5000 though?

Could you compare it to the Maze please, specially the speed, dwell time, and feel (soft or hard)

Thank you Speedy!

LOOPMEISTER wrote: I've seen the pictures of your blade collection and I respect your opinion about tt gear, but I have a hard time understanding why you are saying the T5000 is so much better than a TBALC... Those Tamca Carbon blades are much faster than the Arylate Carbon ones, not to mention stiffer.

Ah ha... very good observation about Carbon being stiffer than Arylate Carbon.  You should at least try these two blades.  You will know exactly what I am talking about.  Here is what I think:  Because T5000 is thinner, so it's not that fast and is not stiff as one might think.

LOOPMEISTER wrote: Its for a different kind of player. You might be really good, so it might fit your style, and you might find it easier to control, but I can't believe a Tamca Carbon blade has "more control" than a ALC blade for the average serious player.

Again, it's a good observation... and again, T5000 is thinner, and has MORE feel.  Trust me... is there someone else use/try these blades?  Opinion please...

LOOPMEISTER wrote: ZL fiber, ZL carbon, and Arylate carbon were invented for a reason... To make carbon more multi-dimensional.

True that... but they all depends on how thick the composite is, how thick the wood they use, and yes, what kind of wood they use.  All of these together, will make a blade completely different than you can think.  Agree?

For example, what if you have a Tamca Carbon with the total thickness is only 4mm and an all wood blade with 8mm.  Which one do you think stiffer?  I know this is not the greatest example, but it's a good example to show that Carbon, Arylate, Arylate Carbon, ZL Carbon, or ZL Fiber are NOT the ONLY thing that makes the blade more control or stiffer.  It's the COMBINATION of the wood + composite and/or the thickness of them.  I hope that helps

acer800 wrote: ok ok that's it. I'm tired of staring at the pictures. I ordered a T5000 AND ZLF I'll be a EJ soon

Go for it! I support EJing 100%!

acer800 wrote: ok ok that's it. I'm tired of staring at the pictures. I ordered a T5000 AND ZLF I'll be a EJ soon

Post pictures of your T5000 AND ZLF after you get them and your ALC too.  Just like those nice photos of your K5.

Mark 5 wrote: speedy, could you please post pictures of the veneers of both rackets? Here is a picture of the veneers of my ALC:

I was thinking about doing that, but I am on travel right now and don't have the camera and don't have both blades.  I will come back next week and do that.

tdragon wrote: acer800 wrote: ok ok that's it. I'm tired of staring at the pictures. I ordered a T5000 AND ZLF I'll be a EJ soon You already had the ALC, why don't you order the complete set?

LOL, I probably will order a ZLC soon. But never the W7

acer800 wrote: tdragon wrote: acer800 wrote: ok ok that's it. I'm tired of staring at the pictures. I ordered a T5000 AND ZLF I'll be a EJ soon You already had the ALC, why don't you order the complete set? LOL, I probably will order a ZLC soon. But never the W7

You may be surprised. I know one pros (ranked above 2500) told me that W7 is the best for his liking.