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    Posted: 03/28/2021 at 10:17am
Timo Boll seems to wait a lot bit longer than other players before acting (moving) for serve receive.  I have tried to learn from him to receive a little late to increase receive consistence.

I usually have no problem with short serve. But for longer serves, sometimes I feel I respond without really watching the ball. 

My question is how one can see or train himself to see the ball bouncing from his own table before acting for return? I particularly have problem with long serve with a lot of side spin. I feel that I kind of rush to return and usually have bad return (completely miss or low quality return).

Do you usually watch the ball bouncing from the table before return?
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Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

Timo Boll seems to wait a lot bit longer than other players before acting (moving) for serve receive.  I have tried to learn from him to receive a little late to increase receive consistence.

I usually have no problem with short serve. But for longer serves, sometimes I feel I respond without really watching the ball. 

My question is how one can see or train himself to see the ball bouncing from his own table before acting for return? I particularly have problem with long serve with a lot of side spin. I feel that I kind of rush to return and usually have bad return (completely miss or low quality return).

Do you usually watch the ball bouncing from the table before return?

You actually have a lot more time than you think. Watch the entire ball flight (from when it is struck all the way to just before you hit it) to get the maximum amount of information, it will make your receive a lot more stable. One tip I got from the strongest player in my group is to really focus on the area of the ball that I want to contact, this will increase accuracy a lot. There is a contact point to use for every different serve to adjust for the incoming spin even if you're looping. You can't just use the same contact point.

It's not just receive but also all other shots too. 

I sometimes lose concentration and stop doing that, then my returns suffer a lot too. 
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Definitely good advice. I did somehow try to "stare" at the ball before striking it, but I think the mind has not set to control the hand very well yet.

I think serve return is so important yet little discussed here. And being able to staring the trajectory of the ball flight is most important of return.

I will be practicing to catch the ball with my bare hand without the paddle. I think that will help timing and observing the trajectory of the ball without about worrying the striking ball. 


Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

Timo Boll seems to wait a lot bit longer than other players before acting (moving) for serve receive.  I have tried to learn from him to receive a little late to increase receive consistence.

I usually have no problem with short serve. But for longer serves, sometimes I feel I respond without really watching the ball. 

My question is how one can see or train himself to see the ball bouncing from his own table before acting for return? I particularly have problem with long serve with a lot of side spin. I feel that I kind of rush to return and usually have bad return (completely miss or low quality return).

Do you usually watch the ball bouncing from the table before return?

You actually have a lot more time than you think. Watch the entire ball flight (from when it is struck all the way to just before you hit it) to get the maximum amount of information, it will make your receive a lot more stable. One tip I got from the strongest player in my group is to really focus on the area of the ball that I want to contact, this will increase accuracy a lot. There is a contact point to use for every different serve to adjust for the incoming spin even if you're looping. You can't just use the same contact point.

It's not just receive but also all other shots too. 

I sometimes lose concentration and stop doing that, then my returns suffer a lot too. 
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Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

Definitely good advice. I did somehow try to "stare" at the ball before striking it, but I think the mind has not set to control the hand very well yet.

I think serve return is so important yet little discussed here. And being able to staring the trajectory of the ball flight is most important of return.

I will be practicing to catch the ball with my bare hand without the paddle. I think that will help timing and observing the trajectory of the ball without about worrying the striking ball. 


Originally posted by blahness blahness wrote:

Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

Timo Boll seems to wait a lot bit longer than other players before acting (moving) for serve receive.  I have tried to learn from him to receive a little late to increase receive consistence.

I usually have no problem with short serve. But for longer serves, sometimes I feel I respond without really watching the ball. 

My question is how one can see or train himself to see the ball bouncing from his own table before acting for return? I particularly have problem with long serve with a lot of side spin. I feel that I kind of rush to return and usually have bad return (completely miss or low quality return).

Do you usually watch the ball bouncing from the table before return?

You actually have a lot more time than you think. Watch the entire ball flight (from when it is struck all the way to just before you hit it) to get the maximum amount of information, it will make your receive a lot more stable. One tip I got from the strongest player in my group is to really focus on the area of the ball that I want to contact, this will increase accuracy a lot. There is a contact point to use for every different serve to adjust for the incoming spin even if you're looping. You can't just use the same contact point.

It's not just receive but also all other shots too. 

I sometimes lose concentration and stop doing that, then my returns suffer a lot too. 

I'm working on it too Smile From what I gather, it's eyes tracking the ball -> move centre of gravity (upper body) towards the ball -> move to the ball -> hit it. Easier said than done though. It's not a "natural" habit but very much learnt behaviour. 

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