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    Posted: 04/24/2021 at 5:32pm
Japan lockdowns several cities including Tokyo duo to the rising Covid cases. With the scheduled Olympics in two months, there is a chance that the Olympics be cancelled or postponed again. Wishfully not, but hard to say at the moment.  
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Daily change
From JHU CSSE COVID-19 Data · Last updated: 2 days ago
New cases
Japan
30 days
Textual representation of the graph showing number of confirmed cases on a daily basis
  1. 1,911 on Mar 25
  2. 1,977 on Mar 26
  3. 2,080 on Mar 27
  4. 1,783 on Mar 28
  5. 1,290 on Mar 29
  6. 2,141 on Mar 30
  7. 2,864 on Mar 31
  8. 2,598 on Apr 1
  9. 2,714 on Apr 2
  10. 2,751 on Apr 3
  11. 2,522 on Apr 4
  12. 1,566 on Apr 5
  13. 2,615 on Apr 6
  14. 3,453 on Apr 7
  15. 3,491 on Apr 8
  16. 3,480 on Apr 9
  17. 3,706 on Apr 10
  18. 2,700 on Apr 11
  19. 2,113 on Apr 12
  20. 3,449 on Apr 13
  21. 5,482 on Apr 14
  22. 4,515 on Apr 15
  23. 4,511 on Apr 16
  24. 4,802 on Apr 17
  25. 4,111 on Apr 18
  26. 2,274 on Apr 19
  27. 4,973 on Apr 20
  28. 5,369 on Apr 21
  29. 5,526 on Apr 22
  30. 5,014 on Apr 23
Apr 16, 2021
New cases: 4,511
7-day avg: 3,782
02,0004,0006,000



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It´s not two months, it´s three until the start of Olympic Games.
But I suspect organizers did not cancel it yet, or did not announce it yet, because of sponsors. Maybe in one month or two they will say there is no condition to hold the games.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Charlie Brown Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/24/2021 at 7:30pm
Happening right now...can you imagine others surrounded by millions with potential to catch the virus...
Canada is just now coming to grips with what should have been done but didn't...read/watch it right from the source...



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another former athlete with sound suggestion for the Olympic family



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Imho Olympics will happen. Too much invested and for some unknown reason postponing it for another year costs some crazy amount of money. Athletes are vaccinated so no big issues from their side. If the situation gets out of control, they will not let any spectators...
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If they have to they will scale up the lockdowns to make sure the olympics can proceed as planned. Countries have being doing similar lockdowns to prepare for holiday season.

Regarding athletes being vaccinated I believe you are mostly right, however in Norway for example there is a debate if healthy athletes should be prioritized over others. With the slow vaccine rollout here its not clear if they will be offered a vaccine in time.
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Hi,

This, of course, is completely preposterous!  Any honest statistician will confirm the distortion of "percentage-based" perspective here.

  1. 2,274 on Apr 19
  2. 4,973 on Apr 20
  3. 5,369 on Apr 21
  4. 5,526 on Apr 22
  5. 5,014 on Apr 23

Above are a few of the latest case numbers posted earlier.

Japan's population is 126,000,000.
April 23 daily cases: 5,014

Cases are not illness, not sickness.  They are lab tests, using the rt-PCR test that the inventor of the test himself, Dr. Kary Mullis, who won the Nobel Prize for its invention, said should not be used for medical diagnosis.  

Where are the sickness statistics here?

Lockdowns are decisions by politicians.

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You left out "numbers vaccinated" remember athletes don't have to be vaccinated just tested and you see how that turns out? Again you're visiting a country it works both ways the virus especially how this new mutation is supposedly even more "highly contagious" and god forbid it does catch, it will likely mean even more mutations...and as current vaccines not only have 'issues" it's still unknown if it has any effect on the mutations to come as everyone seemingly just dilly dallys.

There is no need for sickness stats as you have already seen what an overfilled ICU has...the ICU is where the special care is just for these things...an ICU is not the entire hospital but when it does overun an entire hospital well you know what happened in NYC and some parts of the globe and it continues, japanese people do not want that, they've made it known loudly with anti-Olympic protests.

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Human dead corps being burned in a city park New Delhi.   Vaccine does not work to the full.

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Originally posted by igorponger igorponger wrote:

Human dead corps being burned in a city park New Delhi.   Vaccine does not work to the full.


Igor, your post is loaded with negative energy. Of course that kind of stuff happens in a pandemic in a country that has less infrastructure per habitant, using it to downgrade vaccination lacks intelligence, YES!
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Originally posted by stiltt stiltt wrote:

Originally posted by igorponger igorponger wrote:

Human dead corps being burned in a city park New Delhi.   Vaccine does not work to the full.


Igor, your post is loaded with negative energy. Of course that kind of stuff happens in a pandemic in a country that has less infrastructure per habitant, using it to downgrade vaccination lacks intelligence, YES!

Igor is obsessed with ito mima. Why do you think igor has been banned in several forums?
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JOINT STATEMENT BY THE IOC, IPC, TOKYO 2020, TOKYO METROPOLITAN GOVERNMENT AND THE GOVERNMENT OF JAPAN



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Originally posted by mykonos96 mykonos96 wrote:

Originally posted by stiltt stiltt wrote:

Originally posted by igorponger igorponger wrote:

Human dead corps being burned in a city park New Delhi.   Vaccine does not work to the full.


Igor, your post is loaded with negative energy. Of course that kind of stuff happens in a pandemic in a country that has less infrastructure per habitant, using it to downgrade vaccination lacks intelligence, YES!

Igor is obsessed with ito mima. Why do you think igor has been banned in several forums?
he won't be here, it's his place like yours and mine and he knows how to adjust when he wants.

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  • All participants are required to take 

  • two COVID-19 tests before their flight to Japan.


Simply use the proper test, the lateral flow test, and the number of "cases" will collapse.

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   MY DEAR FELLOW HUMANS,
Our whole world is not a goodies shop, you know. Awareness of a bitter truth will give you a better chance to survive throughout the current period of global pandemy, I believe.
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Originally posted by Charlie Brown Charlie Brown wrote:

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If they would ban the spectators, it would be a very very strange opening ceremony..
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Originally posted by Simas Simas wrote:

Originally posted by Charlie Brown Charlie Brown wrote:

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If they would ban the spectators, it would be a very very strange opening ceremony..

The ban would be on overseas spectators.

Gotta feel for Japan.  Obviously, not the Olympics they had envisioned.
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S korea has begun to fully vaccinate all their Olympic Athletes who have been given priority over the rest of the country.

"South Korea begins COVID vaccination for athletes. Approximately 100 South Korean athletes and coaches travelling to Japan for the Olympics this year received their first doses of COVID-19 vaccine, as the country struggles to keep its inoculation drive on track amid supply shortages"

China "offers" the vaccine...

Amid criticism for human rights abuses, China offers vaccine doses for all Olympic athletesChina offered to provide doses of coronavirus vaccines for Olympic athletes competing at the Tokyo Games this summer and next winter's Beijing Games.

They will all still be required to go thru the daily regime of tests from the host.

meanwhile others hope this will happen...

A Canadian Olympic gold medallist is hopeful a vaccine deal between the International Olympic Committee and China can help the global fight against COVID-19 ahead of the Tokyo Games this summer.

Wrestler Erica Wiebe says it would be a great outcome if the partnership “can help athletes and citizens of countries with less robust vaccination plans than Canada.”

The IOC has entered into a partnership with the Chinese Olympic Committee to buy and provide vaccines for people taking part in the upcoming games in both Tokyo and Beijing. Vaccines are not mandatory for athletes to compete in the Tokyo Games. The deal comes as criticism of China continues ahead of the 2022 Winter Games in Beijing.





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Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

The ban would be on overseas spectators.


They are already banned. Now it's about having spectators at all.
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Originally posted by amateur amateur wrote:

Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

The ban would be on overseas spectators.


They are already banned. Now it's about having spectators at all.
Right, overseas spectators would be banned at the upcoming Olympics.  Anything can change, but I don't believe it's about having spectators at all, but about how many will be allowed in the venues:

2. As we look into the evolving situation with the domestic infections status involving new strains, we have agreed that a decision regarding spectator capacity at the Olympic and Paralympic venues will be made in June, in line with the government’s general guidance concerning the upper limit of spectator capacity in sports events. This follows the significant decision in March, when the IOC and IPC were informed about the conclusion of the Japanese parties not to allow entry into Japan for overseas spectators for the Olympic and Paralympic Games Tokyo 2020 due to the prevailing worldwide COVID-19 pandemic. Meanwhile, the IOC, the IPC and Tokyo 2020 continue to work on optimising the number of participants attending the Olympic and Paralympic Games Tokyo 2020.

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meanwhile... ??? Stern Smile seemingly very minute but how with all the precautions...is the Torch carrying more than a flame?Tongue

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/six-tokyo-olympic-torch-staffers-diagnosed-with-covid-19-1.5411736


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Meanwhile a few weeks ago in New Zealand



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REBEL IS COMING ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tlatelolco_massacre

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2021/05/06/petition-demanding-cancelation-of-tokyo-olympics-garners-160000-signatures-in-just-three-days/

    IOC GOES ON despite people's voice upsurging against the event.
Mass disorders and dismay all over Japan are expected for this summer.

Olympics in fire, FROM MY MEMORY.
Mexico OG 1968, trotskistic anarchistes young studends were rebelling all over Mexico-city just prior to The Games. A bloody rebellion.

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It'll only be cancelled if the athletes decide not to participate at this point.
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I can see more senior athletes will want to go to Tokyo Olympics as this would be their last and best  chance at getting a medal. The athletes in their prime would also want to go. Four years later, they're past their prime.  Younger athletes would go for the experience and then be ready four years later to seriously contend. Heck, likely all athletes will want to go.

Now the thing about vaccinating the athletes. I can see complications.
We are now only 2.5 months from the start of Tokyo Olympics. 

If Pfizer jab is given in 2 shots, that'll take up 3-4 weeks+  to absorb into each athlete's body system let alone having to deal with possible unpredictable side effects. Thus, the athlete has 1 month of preparation after vaccination. Any humming and hawwing I hear?

Oh, and IF an athlete is on a doping program, who knows how the vaccine interacts with a performance enhancer. Bear in mind, an athlete most likely stop taking any PEDs at least 45 days before start of Olympics.  Entering uncharted waters here?

Then there's the issue that not every Olympic athlete will take a Pfizer shot. I heard it's not mandatory.
High risk rollers congregating in the Athletes Village.  Ahh, so this is where some athletes may not go to Tokyo. Some cases of vaccinated people have reported testing positive for Covid-19 or its various Variants from all over the world.

I betcha Russia and China have already vaccinated their qualified Olympic athletes.
(Yay!! Sputnik V and Sinovac)

It's too close to call. I'm not going to make a prediction whether Tokyo Olympics will be cancelled or not.



 

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