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    Posted: 03/21/2011 at 1:28am
This is taken at one of the local clubs around my area. The place is small but the players are very humble and friendly. Because I play penhold I like to finish the point as soon as I can. I would normally step around and loop long serves but the space was very limited and I was afraid I was gonna hit the guy  next to me plus is very slippery and I have ZERO grip to the floor. When I do my forehand sometimes I move the shoulder up why to high .Currently I'm trying to fix that up. I need help with my pushes specially on the backhand side. I push high and spinless thus giving a nice opportunity to my oponnent to attack me. How can I keep it low and with lots of backspin?
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Check at 0:18 in the vid. When you push from the top of the arc, the ball will bounce almost that high on the other side. Try pushing sooner  on the way up.  When you wait for the ball to start dropping, then you have to lift the ball high to clear the net. Some went high just because of the wrong bat angle.  Smile

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thanks for the tips. any videos of how to rpb around the web?
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see here
 
 
 
this was from some time back
I'm sure there is a good deal more to be found now
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Originally posted by Ikaros21 Ikaros21 wrote:

thanks for the tips. any videos of how to rpb around the web?

Specifically the point on 2:05 and 2:08.. this is not on how to do RPB, just a random match.


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your forehand drive is wicked.

you are lucky your opponent lacks the will or  ability to attack those high pushes though.

Originally posted by Hookshot Hookshot wrote:

Check at 0:18 in the vid. When you push from the top of the arc, the ball will bounce almost that high on the other side. Try pushing sooner  on the way up.  When you wait for the ball to start dropping, then you have to lift the ball high to clear the net. Some went high just because of the wrong bat angle.  Smile


as a low level player who spent the first few years ON LY pushing/pick hitting i agree about taking it earlier. it's riskier in terms of control, because you have to be more precise, but the reward is a low, quick push with heavier spin.

so what about having more forward motion in the push (from the footwork/legs? or from the handspeed?)

i ask because some of the better traditional penhold BH push/pickhit players that  i've played (US1700-1900) seem to have good acceleration through the push and the spin is not weak.
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Originally posted by icontek icontek wrote:


your forehand drive is wicked.

you are lucky your opponent lacks the will or  ability to attack those high pushes though.

Originally posted by Hookshot Hookshot wrote:

Check at 0:18 in the vid. When you push from the top of the arc, the ball will bounce almost that high on the other side. Try pushing sooner  on the way up.  When you wait for the ball to start dropping, then you have to lift the ball high to clear the net. Some went high just because of the wrong bat angle.  Smile


as a low level player who spent the first few years ON LY pushing/pick hitting i agree about taking it earlier. it's riskier in terms of control, because you have to be more precise, but the reward is a low, quick push with heavier spin.

so what about having more forward motion in the push (from the footwork/legs? or from the handspeed?)

 You need 'soft hands' because you are hitting the ball as its rising as opposed to falling, and its more difficult to judge the length of your return, but most definately worth the effort as the added bonus is that you give your opponent considerably less time.
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Originally posted by Sallom89 Sallom89 wrote:

Originally posted by Ikaros21 Ikaros21 wrote:

thanks for the tips. any videos of how to rpb around the web?

Specifically the point on 2:05 and 2:08.. this is not on how to do RPB, just a random match.


thanks 4 your help. it looks that u have good feeling with the ball. how long you been playing?
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Originally posted by Ikaros21 Ikaros21 wrote:

Originally posted by Sallom89 Sallom89 wrote:

Originally posted by Ikaros21 Ikaros21 wrote:

thanks for the tips. any videos of how to rpb around the web?

Specifically the point on 2:05 and 2:08.. this is not on how to do RPB, just a random match.


thanks 4 your help. it looks that u have good feeling with the ball. how long you been playing?

Probably a year and a half with 2 days a week practice as average? not really sure :O
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btw a lot o people complain about my serves being illegal. are they?
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Originally posted by Ikaros21 Ikaros21 wrote:

btw a lot o people complain about my serves being illegal. are they?
 IMO, No.
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Very nice FH loop, although I’ve noticed that you returned passively a few over the table pop ups to your forehand – they are most easily smasheable with penhold, and PH smash is outright devastating; try it. 

I see that you like to serve long to opponents backhand to prepare 3-rd ball attack - it’s my favorite tactics too atm (risky against decent opponents though LOL)

As to backhand pushes – same approach as with shakehand works for me decently well: as already mentioned, try taking the ball early on the rise.
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