The Official Speed Glue Effect Rubber Thread!

Where did you end up buying the Sinus? Could you write up a quick review of it? Thanks in advance.

While there's all the hype for tenergy, I am looking to try out either Sinus regular or Andro Roxon, I found some shops in europe(germany)but shipping is so high...basically for 1 sinus and 1 roxon, with shipping it came to 85Euros ~ 135US Dollars in this site, http://contra.de/
Do any of you know when paddle-palace might carry sinus, i emailed them long time ago but no response. Any other shops, especially for us here in US?

Can't comment on Impuls Speed or F3!

But I can say that Xtra is fairly durable for a tensor. The secret to preserving tensors is... Edge Tape! Good quality, 12mm edge tape, which is wide enough for most blades and 2 MAX rubbers. We spend lots of money on lovely new rubbers and then don't spend just a little bit more to look after them! The dings and nicks generally come from contact with table and edge tape usually prevents that.

For what it's worth, here's the review of Energy Xtra I recently posted on DTTW.

" I have been using JOOLA Energy Xtra MAX exclusively this season and so have quite a bit of experience with it.

It's quick and very spinny, especially for opening loops at the table. Despite the speed it retains decent control over the table - enough for it not to be a liability. The rubber excels in the short to mid distance looping game and the soft sponge gives enough dwell time for large amounts of mechanical spin to be generated. It still performs well far back but you need to give it a bit of oomph - having said that, unless you're playing with a fast carbon blade and heavily glued rubbers then you're always going to have to do that.

Durability has not been an issue so far - average life span has been about 4 months of heavy use (2/3/4 days per week), though I tend to put new ones on my forehand every 2 months and switch the used one to my backhand for another 2 months. As people have commented above, Energy Xtra is also fairly loud!

In conclusion, i would say that Energy Xtra has somewhere in the region of 50-60% of a full-on 'wet' glue job, but that is sufficient for my needs. The payback is in consistency from session to session, match to match - something I have also found in the 4 or 5 sheets I have used... no 'duds' yet!"

If someone can clarify something for me, I would be VERY grateful.

Sriver G2 FX - does this fall into "speed glue effect" category?  I see people talking about gluing it, but wonder if gluing is necessary, how does it play out of the package?

Another random question, how is durability of energy extra, are we talking the fragility of EGP, andro plasma etc?

Thanks!

GraemeW wrote: Same topsheet - different sponges. EGP is 42.5 deg. and Xtra is 37.5 deg. EGP a bit faster - Xtra spinnier and louder.

What the difference between the Joola Green Power and the Joola Energy Extra?

I'm just confused, you say it is meant for far table play, but it is hard to play mid distance, so do you mean it should be played with beyond 4 ft. from the table or so?

grubbafan wrote: Bryce Speed and it is meant for far table play.

grubbafan wrote: Bryce Speed However, it is pretty hard to play short and mid distance with this rubber.

Bump for alpali.

I have just started using Joola Energy X-Tra 2.0mm both sides. It has a good speed glue effect, sound and the ability to lift chopped balls easily. The only fault I have found is its relatively slow speed, compared to speed glued rubber. I practiced tonight with it on a faster blade. TSP 8.5 Balsa. It definately improved the speed.

I have used X-Tend, and did not feel much of an effect at all.

gtlug wrote: Andro Plasma 430 : Do the job well, something on really well hit and powerful top-spin you get a good glue sound.  Didn't like it on my BH because I felt it was too hard (I played with a mark V GPS for the last few weeks... so maybe it's just that). On the forehand, I liked it. It gave me the power I wanted, but I got control too.  Didn't allow me to put balls close to the ground on the table with an heavy top spin, something that the Desto F1 allow me. Was OK for serve. Stiga Neos Sound SynergyTech: I liked it on both FH and BH, but more on the Backhand. Not really fast, Not really spinny. Feels like any soft rubber lightly glued. You can feel the control with it. Both were used on a Stiga Optimum Plus

I agree that Andro Plasma 430 does the job well. I have played with Andro Plasma 430, Xiom Omega I, and Joola Energy. Plasma 430 has the most speed glue effect, with great spin, speed, and very loud sound (on my JPen). Omega I is in the 2nd place. Joola Energy does not have as much speed glue effect as Plasma and Omega I, but is most durable among the three. The only thing I don't like about Plasma 430 is that it only lasts about 2-3 months.

gtlug wrote: Andro Plasma 430 : Do the job well, something on really well hit and powerful top-spin you get a good glue sound.  Didn't like it on my BH because I felt it was too hard (I played with a mark V GPS for the last few weeks... so maybe it's just that). On the forehand, I liked it. It gave me the power I wanted, but I got control too.  Didn't allow me to put balls close to the ground on the table with an heavy top spin, something that the Desto F1 allow me. Was OK for serve. Stiga Neos Sound: I liked it on both FH and BH, but more on the Backhand. Not really fast, Not really spinny. Feels like any soft rubber lightly glued. You can feel the control with it. Both were used on a Stiga Optimum Plus

I thought the Neos series were best when used with speed glue?

 I played for about 4 month with Donic Waldner senso wrb blade,combined with Desto f1 2,1 mm fh+Desto f2 2,1 mm bh.

I think they are all made in the same factory.

I am interested in the Vario Gold, but can't find where to buy it.