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    Posted: 03/23/2008 at 9:57pm
i need to buy some new glue,
so what voc free glue that will be legal after sep 1 would be the best?
What glue gives best value?
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DHS water base from flicker
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so flicker sells it?
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Originally posted by pongmaster pongmaster wrote:

i need to buy some new glue,
so what voc free glue that will be legal after sep 1 would be the best?
What glue gives best value?

I currently use this one, recommended by Borko on the other thread.


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How much does it cost? How much volume? Can it be available in Australia?
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I use regular rubber cement.  After I glue my rubbers down I let it sit for a day so all the VOCs air out.
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Originally posted by PingPangQiu PingPangQiu wrote:

How much does it cost? How much volume? Can it be available in Australia?

~12 dollars for one pint in US where I bought it.  For the last question, I think Google search (or any online search engine) will be your best bet.
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how fast does it dry?? Is it hard to peel the glue off?? What about seperating the rubber and blade??

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I can sell you DHS VOC-free glue 100mls for $12 shipped.
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Is it the milky glue that is watery and odourless?
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Originally posted by dalamchops dalamchops wrote:

how fast does it dry?? Is it hard to peel the glue off?? What about seperating the rubber and blade??

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It's pretty fast.  I'd say less than 20 min for rubbers that were treated with Lamp Oil and glued onto an unsealed wooden blade.  I bounced the ball on it and it looks dried.  I didn't play with it because I am still nursing a wrist injury.  I used a Clicky Press, I'd think you probably don't need it unless the rubber is very domed.

For the last two questions I haven't gotten to that part yet, so I can't answer.  Sorry.

I will be gluing up two more setups (one is a sealed blade and another is a Stiga Crystal blade) and I will report later how this glue worked on them.
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Originally posted by Jeff[ATTC Jeff[ATTC wrote:

]I use regular rubber cement.  After I glue my rubbers down I let it sit for a day so all the VOCs air out.

will it be legal after sep 1?
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yes. VOC's are gone after 3 days.
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Originally posted by Jeff[ATTC Jeff[ATTC wrote:

]I use regular rubber cement.  After I glue my rubbers down I let it sit for a day so all the VOCs air out.
Ditto that. However if you really want to use VOC free I found BTY Free Chack to have the strongest bond (necessary for tuned rubbers that are still little domed) - and it is stronger then rubber cement.
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Originally posted by LachlanTan LachlanTan wrote:

Is it the milky glue that is watery and odourless?

I don't think it's that kind of glue you have in mind.  The closest color I can use to describe it would be beige (bear in mind I am not too good in color).  No smell.  Just some very faint odor that I can hardly smell it.  The label says it's acid free, non-toxic, water based and no solvents.
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I thought it would be same as water chack

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so can you use any random glue to put your rubbers on if its voc etc is within the ittf specifications for glue?  Does it have to be ittf approved?
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Do you play any ITTF tournaments? If not it is even OK for you to use speed glue.
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After using Clean Fix Extra, I tried Elmer's regular nontoxic glue (for school use) because I think they feel and smell pretty much the same.  Elmers takes longer to dry, but besides that I can't tell the difference.

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i play in usatt tournements which uses ittf rules
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Originally posted by pongmaster pongmaster wrote:

so can you use any random glue to put your rubbers on if its voc etc is within the ittf specifications for glue?  Does it have to be ittf approved?

I think the ITTF requirements for the glue are: VOC-free and no banned substances (chemicals) used.  As long as those requirements are satisfied, you can use any glue you want.  One thing I am not certain is that are there other requirements beside those two I mentioned?  Or maybe we really need to use ITTF approved glues, but I haven't seen any list of approved glues on ITTF website.  Hopefully people who know more about ITTF regulations will chime in.
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The label on a Clean Fix Extra bottle said "In agreement with ITTF guidelines".  There is not ITTF approved seal.  So I guess Elmers School glue should be good.  It is water base and nontoxic.
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lol, ok thanks
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If you want speed glue ,Falco Tempo Unlimited is the only option.
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Originally posted by Stavros Stavros wrote:

If you want speed glue ,Falco Tempo Unlimited is the only option.
 
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Originally posted by PingPangQiu PingPangQiu wrote:

DHS water base from flicker
 
PPQ - Is there a different forum member by the nickname of Flicker you are refering to?  Perhaps you want to clarify.  I certainly am not selling any kind of glue.  I just want to clarify since several people on this forum has IM'ed me regarding the glue.  I just don't want people to be misled. Thanks.
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Could anybody post a picture of a "regular" rubber cement that you use instead of tt glue? Is it a specific type of rubber cement that you can use or just any rubber cement?

I�m not even sure I can buy rubber cement here in Iceland
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I find my rubber cement in a art store. Theres elmers and best test. 
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