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    Posted: 07/13/2008 at 9:14pm
why the chinese top players doesnt use composite blades?
why is that?
obviously is a question to make "guesses" only...but what do u think?
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Because they use Hurricane. Which is more suited to a flexible 5 ply blade. Also ply wood blades have beeter feeling(vibration) and control for the short game.
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zhang jike uses viscaria and h3. I guess it's just a matter or preference.
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Zhang uses a custom ZL Carbon, but both rubbers are Japanese~ Now pre-2004 she was using the Adolescen (All Wood) with H3 and Ekrips, so the H3 can be an issue~
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In my opinion, the equipment does not matter much to them. It is their skill more than their equipment.
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Originally posted by varghesep varghesep wrote:

In my opinion, the equipment does not matter much to them. It is their skill more than their equipment.
I think this is true for most of us.  I don't really think the matches I lost are because of my equipments.  
 
After bigger ball, glue ban, or whatever, the Chinese still kick and will be still kicking asses. 
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Because the Chinese players would like to use the power by themself.  
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how cute, correct, all hail to nationalism and loyalty for the motherland!
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They simply grew up playing Chinese rubbers and using all wood blades. Pro players are a superstitious bunch. They won't change during the season unless something gets banned or they find something that suits them even better than what they've gotten used to, which is rather rare.
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because its part of their lives and they training is strictly reinforced, developed and promoted by the communist government
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Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

Zhang uses a custom ZL Carbon, but both rubbers are Japanese~ Now pre-2004 she was using the Adolescen (All Wood) with H3 and Ekrips, so the H3 can be an issue~
 
zhang yn was using 2 japanese rubbers before 2004, li xiao i dont know where you get ur info, but is wrong  and if you are naive enuff to believe waht bty claims is other stuff
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Ok bbkon, first you can look at any picture of her back then, and pictures were published on fotop of her paddle, maybe you should go look at them~
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hard chinese rubbers work better with allwood blades.
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Yyea, I think Skyline's observation is correct. Since Chinese Rubbers are generally hard sponged, they will work well with all wood paddle to compensate for the "hard" feel.  Simply putting these rubbers with equally "hard" carbon composites or the likes, you will be playing with rock hard(sorry), er granite hard paddles, which compromises control.
 
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I believe Wang Liqin's combi is quite hard...
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Originally posted by charlesj charlesj wrote:

I believe Wang Liqin's combi is quite hard...
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yeah...and the HK is also a lot STIFF and HARD, so....what about the softness on their blades that ppl talk about? LOL
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Well he puts like so much glue the rubber sponge is soft~~
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If they choose to play with hurricane, which is a looping rubber rather than a smashing blade, their blades need more dwell time. wood blades are softer than ex. carbon blades, so they offer more dwell time, and therefore suits their looping game.

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Originally posted by Skyline Skyline wrote:

hard chinese rubbers work better with allwood blades.


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to me hard rubbers like hurricane are better for smashing and spinny loops (not those powerful ones)
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Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

Ok bbkon, first you can look at any picture of her back then, and pictures were published on fotop of her paddle, maybe you should go look at them~
 
i trust my eyes and i saw zhang from 3 feet when talking to a journalist
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how about kong linghui...?

 
 
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Originally posted by T h e N A M T h e N A M wrote:

how about kong linghui...?

 
 
 
his blade only has arylate carbon in his backhand. His forehand is still all wood.
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Originally posted by charlesj charlesj wrote:

to me hard rubbers like hurricane are better for smashing and spinny loops (not those powerful ones)
  I don't know.  You should check out Wang Liqin. Wink
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yeah, watch him. His loops arent spinny at all.

the reason he has so much power is because his technique is so perfect that he is able to add plenty of power as well as the awesome spin he has.
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Originally posted by Asaomi Asaomi wrote:

If they choose to play with hurricane, which is a looping rubber rather than a smashing blade, their blades need more dwell time. wood blades are softer than ex. carbon blades, so they offer more dwell time, and therefore suits their looping game.

 
Well, Hurricane is certainly more of a looping rubber rather than a smashing blade.....Sleepy
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well I thought hard rubbers are better for smashing and soft rubbers are better for looping?

Originally posted by Schlager Schlager wrote:

Originally posted by Asaomi Asaomi wrote:

If they choose to play with hurricane, which is a looping rubber rather than a smashing blade, their blades need more dwell time. wood blades are softer than ex. carbon blades, so they offer more dwell time, and therefore suits their looping game.

 
Well, Hurricane is certainly more of a looping rubber rather than a smashing blade.....Sleepy
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kong did used a composite blade but only on one side the other side has no carbon arylate layer
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