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    Posted: 11/08/2017 at 9:04am
Originally posted by mog1111 mog1111 wrote:

my guess is there was a bad batch somewhere near the start. the new one I bought has rubbers taken on and off loads and no damage.
if your looking for a good off towards off- blade you really cant go wrong with infinity. its fantastic for looping with hurricane or evolution/tenergy.

if its a 5 ply wood with decent control and speed you really cant go wrong and stiga definitely make blades with the most comfortable wings imo


That there are satisfied players, there is no doubt. However, dubious reviews persist, even recently from a retailer. Bad batches are created all the time without proper QC. They should be removed from the supply chain, but not all manufacturers do this. In the clothing industry, there are specific outlets for irregulars.

I already had one costly experience with an irregular (really bad delamination) so I am particularly sensitive to this topic. Irregulars can hang around in storehouses for quite some time if they aren't pulled.
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my guess is there was a bad batch somewhere near the start. the new one I bought has rubbers taken on and off loads and no damage.
if your looking for a good off towards off- blade you really cant go wrong with infinity. its fantastic for looping with hurricane or evolution/tenergy.

if its a 5 ply wood with decent control and speed you really cant go wrong and stiga definitely make blades with the most comfortable wings imo
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Originally posted by mog1111 mog1111 wrote:

I have an old one that delaminated (someone lent me). I bought a new one from uk and it is excellent condition, no delamination at all, nice solid 87g. Lovely blade to use (and that's coming from an ej).


Thanks. It does seem that this blade has had a history of inconsistences. Maybe I can find it locally to try out but so far no success.

I've learned to ignore reviews where the vendor supplies the equipment. For sure they are supplying the best version they could make. So then it there are reviews on forums and review sites made by players who purchased, I look for consistency and QA. Have to give credit to Butterfly for their consistency and QC.
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only thing is they are now standard stiga size of 157 x 150
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I have an old one that delaminated (someone lent me). I bought a new one from uk and it is excellent condition, no delamination at all, nice solid 87g. Lovely blade to use (and that's coming from an ej).
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Thanks as always Andy.
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Made in Sweden.  The early batches were very hit-and-miss unfortunately.  Not sure if that's improved recently.
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Does anyone know where the Infinity VPS is being manufactured? The reviews on TT11 are all over the place. Weights ranging 75 gm to 95 gm. Delamination. Thonking noises. And players who are quite satisfied. I know some members of the board have noticed leave if QA in Stuga's blades. Are some models more consistent than others?
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im trying the infinity again but with non neo hurricane 3 on the backhand in 2.0mm to take away the bounciness.
loops better with hurricane 3 neo on fh than the wsc I currently use
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I've never heard of an "on" blade. Trust me, it's not the blade, where somethng's missing.
Just make sure not to put soft rubbers on it with some coaching and you'll be fine. -:)
Someone told Stiga Genesis M made this Blade a Great combo, or try the new Mantra H/M.

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Originally posted by ejmaster ejmaster wrote:

Originally posted by flamingmdn flamingmdn wrote:

Tibhar Evolution MX-P fits perfectly on FH, even better for me than T05.

It doesn't exists yet better than t05.
t05 is like being at home.

I think tenergy 64 is as good as 05 for the forehand of the infinity
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I mean a clipper with good bounce that doesnt feel like cardboard and get splintered
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Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

What blade is like clipper or can replace clipper since its hard to find a good clipper

How do you mean it's hard to find a good Clipper, is in any specific weight you are trying to find? 
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Originally posted by jonyer1980 jonyer1980 wrote:

Originally posted by jonyer1980 jonyer1980 wrote:

Well, at last  i could try Infinity V this morning and now i´ve got a closer idea about how it performs.

First of all, I don´t want to dissapoint FZD supporters but i really really doubt he´s in fact playing with Infinity V, in spite he´s got amazing technique, footwork, power etc... FZD he´s for sure  between  5 best gifted pro players all over the world, but  he´s still a humang being, so would swear that it´s almost imposible  to get that super speed with INF-V playing with chinese ultraboosted rubbers. Maybe he plays with infinity handles on something like clipper, how knows. Unless i can prove it& and see it with my own eyes, I think he´s lying about his equipment. 

As Yogi mentioned, i would rate this blade as OFF- mainly. Mine was 83gr, 05fh 05fx bh.  I´ve been  playing Acoustic for a few years so i´ll try to compare both.  There´s less vibration than acouctic, but it´s not as stiff and hard as clipper or hardwood series. 

Speed: I don´t think it´s faster than my former Acoustic, perhaps a tad slower. It´s somewhere between Primorac Off- / Korbel Euro version (oval plastic tag). It´s great for close to the table play, but once you step back a few from the table you´ll feel the  lacks of power. 

Spin: I think i can generate even more spin than my acoustic, at least i believe it  can bite the ball even better . Brushing looping and services are a breeze, loaded with tons of spin.

Control: This is a control based blade, with typical great feeling trademark of Stiga. You can do anything, but if you´re looking for raw speed, then it´s not your blade. It shines on services, as well as service returns, chops, dropshots flicks on the table. Ball placement is great, you can drive easily  with  incredible accuracy. 

I´ll give a more detailed review in a future since i these are my first impressions.



Looks like i was right at the end, yup?



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Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

What blade is like clipper or can replace clipper since its hard to find a good clipper

A heavy Infinity is close enough to old Clipper.
If you want an all-wood very solid Stiga blade buy a Hybrid Wood. It's very fast though.
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What blade is like clipper or can replace clipper since its hard to find a good clipper
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OFF- is too low man. Primorac is OFF- and is quite easy to tell its slower than this. It is a great wood OFF blade. I can recommend it over Korbel for any kind of game. Same speed but superior control. Much better control. I think pretty much all reviewers agreed this blade has great control. 
The only caveat is, you have to have confident strokes that go through the ball. If you are into brushing the ball, this blade is not the best for you, because on peripheral brushing shots it offers very little dwell time. If you are into brushing you have to with all limba blade , preferably Innerforce. 
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Originally posted by jonyer1980 jonyer1980 wrote:

Well, at last  i could try Infinity V this morning and now i´ve got a closer idea about how it performs.

First of all, I don´t want to dissapoint FZD supporters but i really really doubt he´s in fact playing with Infinity V, in spite he´s got amazing technique, footwork, power etc... FZD he´s for sure  between  5 best gifted pro players all over the world, but  he´s still a humang being, so would swear that it´s almost imposible  to get that super speed with INF-V playing with chinese ultraboosted rubbers. Maybe he plays with infinity handles on something like clipper, how knows. Unless i can prove it& and see it with my own eyes, I think he´s lying about his equipment. 

As Yogi mentioned, i would rate this blade as OFF- mainly. Mine was 83gr, 05fh 05fx bh.  I´ve been  playing Acoustic for a few years so i´ll try to compare both.  There´s less vibration than acouctic, but it´s not as stiff and hard as clipper or hardwood series. 

Speed: I don´t think it´s faster than my former Acoustic, perhaps a tad slower. It´s somewhere between Primorac Off- / Korbel Euro version (oval plastic tag). It´s great for close to the table play, but once you step back a few from the table you´ll feel the  lacks of power. 

Spin: I think i can generate even more spin than my acoustic, at least i believe it  can bite the ball even better . Brushing looping and services are a breeze, loaded with tons of spin.

Control: This is a control based blade, with typical great feeling trademark of Stiga. You can do anything, but if you´re looking for raw speed, then it´s not your blade. It shines on services, as well as service returns, chops, dropshots flicks on the table. Ball placement is great, you can drive easily  with  incredible accuracy. 

I´ll give a more detailed review in a future since i these are my first impressions.



Looks like i was right at the end, yup?

Edited by jonyer1980 - 05/29/2014 at 10:37am
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I´m also struggling with 05 FX on the BH because of its bouncy nature. I feel more confident with my seasoned Goldarc with is a bit harder, not as spinny but has more control.

I think  softer rubber can´t fit well on infinity as a BH rubber.


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I replace T64 to T80 on backhand side of Infinity VPS, it's much better. Not so bouncy, more control more balance between speed and control.
Probably T05 has more spin than T80, but for me T80 is more controlable.
My friend said my shot with Infinity is more controlable than W968.
Will stick to Infinity for a while now.
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Originally posted by ejmaster ejmaster wrote:

jonyer i play with t05 in fh with the infinity and it plays very well.
One can do it all easy with that matching.
No complicated life with t05.
Yeah t05 matches so well with vps on fh. It's the only rubber I would put on fh. Other rubbers are either too bouncy, or not enough power with vps on the fh for me.
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Originally posted by flamingmdn flamingmdn wrote:

Tibhar Evolution MX-P fits perfectly on FH, even better for me than T05.

It doesn't exists yet better than t05.
t05 is like being at home.

Edited by ejmaster - 05/11/2014 at 12:36pm
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Tibhar Evolution MX-P fits perfectly on FH, even better for me than T05.
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Yep, you're right, perhaps im hesitating too much. Maybe mine its a bit light. Ill try with a thin layer of Falco TL. Maybe my old BF m1 or m1 turbo will also fit with it.
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jonyer i play with t05 in fh with the infinity and it plays very well.
One can do it all easy with that matching.
No complicated life with t05.
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Definitely i´ll stick with Infinity V for this incoming season. Im going to  discard RW5 since it´s ok with h3-50 on FH but too bouncy and lively with 05fx on BH. 

Infinity V is another different concept, much better balanced blade,  more flexible with better feeling for touch shots, blocks and passive game with accuracy on my BH, but the FH loops aren´t as powerful as rw5 and need to put more efford on FH topspin.

The main issue is that I feel h3-50 is not powerful enough on the blade, so i´ll keep searching something tacky and harder. Would any H3 harder sponge tuned will be as fast as 05 on FH?  
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Stiga silver sticker are supposed to be made for chinese market with better built&quality than Stiga blade that are sold in Europe.
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silver sticker version is more expensive than blue one, why?

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