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Topic: Stiga Infinity VPS V
Posted By: nikk64
Subject: Stiga Infinity VPS V
Date Posted: 04/02/2013 at 8:28am
New product reached the market since 05. 2013. A new technology, and very likely a new high in price. The Infinity VPS V - with Diamond Touch (OFF) with the brand new VPS technology (Veneer Precision System) is built with two hand-selected middle veneers that are treated with a unique and exact heating and cooling process with precisely measured time and temperature. The Diamond Touch technology gives the outer veneers extra hardness and the surface an incredibly smooth finish and combined with the VPS technology the result is an offensive lightweight blade with outstanding solid touch and feeling. Infinity VPS V gives you the possibility to master the key elements in today's modern game: aggressive receives which help you gain the upper hand at an early stage, and the possibility to follow up with powerful and aggressive topspin shots. Developed together with top players from the Chinese National Team, the Infinity VPS V suits the more offensive minded player with powerful topspin strokes! Speed: 100 Control: 70 Veneers: 5 Type: Off Approx weight: 85 g Available in all STIGA grips: Classic (Straight), Legend (Concave), Master (Concave narrow), Winner (Anatomic), Champ (Conic) and Pen. |
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Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 04/02/2013 at 12:10pm
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Amazing! Stiga invented hot water. Again. ------------- Life is too short for defensive play. https://twitter.com/spinnier_com" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/spinnier_com https://fb.me/spinnier" rel="nofollow - fb.me/spinnier |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 04/02/2013 at 12:47pm
| I am wondering why Stiga is so in love with very hard blades. |
Posted By: chandro
Date Posted: 04/02/2013 at 2:50pm
| i hope it is a looping blade that is closer to clipper than the hardwood series. |
Posted By: Stavros
Date Posted: 04/03/2013 at 2:07am
It will be closer to Clipper than the hardwood series. It is lighter than Clipper. ------------- InfinityVPS - D80 - D05 |
chandro wrote:Posted By: TopSpinNinja
Date Posted: 04/03/2013 at 4:23am
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The price will be around 50-55 euro the blade however will be positioned between OC Nct Carbon & Clipper I will have it next week, and will do some reviews if someone needed The official start is 05.05.13 |
Posted By: chandro
Date Posted: 04/03/2013 at 12:01pm
| tabletennis11 costs it 72 euros. |
Posted By: TopSpinNinja
Date Posted: 05/08/2013 at 4:04am
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I spend with this blade 3 session -2 hours each. I will use clipper & Oc for comparrison,rubbers i used for the test was Aurus Sound FH & BH Infinity blade is Stiff,quite stiff, whatever the top ply to me look like the NCT to glue rubbers no problem at all Speed a notch slower than original clipper,good close to the table and mid distance more than 2.5 metres i start feel lack of speed good feel for the ball,aurus sound really "hug" the ball and catapult it with tons of spin The blade is good for loopers ,blockers and choppers i didnt found it good enought for flats (where clipper shines). My personal view is that stiga perform this blade to feel the gap between OC and rw v (and the price gap also ) :) Overall the control is good i will rate it 8.5 (but this is probably because of the rubbers) Speed is something very personal but to me it it seems like 8 to 8.2 and lets say clipper is 8.4-5 A person who want a upgrade from OC probably should give a try but its far more away from rw and eb finish is tupical for stiga-Bad and rough my blade weight 84.6 grs,which is not bad for legend handle |
Posted By: chandro
Date Posted: 05/08/2013 at 6:20am
| do you think that blocking is better than clipper? |
Posted By: TopSpinNinja
Date Posted: 05/08/2013 at 9:12am
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I can block with anything ,but in general stiffer blades block better which lead to an answer NO :) |
Posted By: speaquinox
Date Posted: 05/08/2013 at 3:00pm
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So how does it feel? Hard/soft? Catapult?Dwell? I hate hardwood series that have hard and dead feel. ------------- Innerforce ALC, Glayzer / Rozena |
Posted By: TopSpinNinja
Date Posted: 05/08/2013 at 3:27pm
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for me its medium feel- catapult like clipper
dwell-hm, aurus sound its pretty dwelly blade is good for loopers,but depends what your level is some people can execute 30 drills other can do 3 :) |
Posted By: parhelia9
Date Posted: 08/06/2013 at 8:35am
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does it head heavy ? ------------- return to XIOM amadues (little mozart) FH :XIOM TAU I BH :Cornilleau Pulse Racer |
Posted By: TiagoF97
Date Posted: 11/17/2013 at 1:24pm
| It is worthy to buy Stiga Infinity VPS V with Yasaka Ma Lin Extra Offensive at the moment? |
Posted By: mrdoodzki
Date Posted: 01/28/2014 at 10:09am
i glued bf m2 on my borrowed infinity vps and i played with it during tonight's tt session. wow no all-wood blade ever felt sweeter than this! it's even better than dhs pg7...i encourage you guys to try this blade. its worth every penny....now i understand why fzd uses this  ------------- Blade -- Stiga Clipper FH -- DHS Hurricane 3 BH -- Japtec Experience HAPPINESS is....sometimes no words, just the sound of a ball |
Posted By: tabten5
Date Posted: 01/28/2014 at 12:14pm
...aside from the fact he http://www.tabletennisdaily.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?7346-FZD-is-not-using-Infinity-VPS-!" rel="nofollow - uses a Viscaria with Infinity handle , you mean?! ------------- T05 2.1 | VISCARIA | T64 1.9 |
Posted By: the_theologian
Date Posted: 01/28/2014 at 12:27pm
did you read the whole thread? and specifically, did you open the picture of FZD with his blade? (vs the controversial pics which don't even show an infinity handle)  ------------- Appelgren Allplay ST / Vega Europe max |
Posted By: the_theologian
Date Posted: 01/28/2014 at 12:32pm
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we need a snopes for table tennis to filter out such nonsense ------------- Appelgren Allplay ST / Vega Europe max |
Posted By: V-Griper
Date Posted: 01/28/2014 at 1:02pm
I was just about to post the same response when I saw you beat me to it.  ------------- DHS 301 Xiom Vega 7pro FH/BH |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 01/28/2014 at 1:48pm
IMHO, the blade in this picture is not a Viscaria. It does not look like the Viscaria that I have in my hand right now. |
Posted By: puppy412
Date Posted: 01/28/2014 at 2:16pm
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Posted By: tabten5
Date Posted: 01/28/2014 at 2:46pm
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Yes, of course I read the whole thread. In my view, FZD is very unlikely to have switched to an Infinity - it bears no similarity to a Viscaria. The thread linked to is inconclusive, with views both ways. You will note, I'm sure, the civility and courtesy demonstrated there. Perhaps it's something some members here can learn from. ------------- T05 2.1 | VISCARIA | T64 1.9 |
Posted By: jonyer1980
Date Posted: 01/28/2014 at 3:36pm
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I wonder how´s Infinity compared to Acoustic in terms of Speed, feeling control. ------------- Rosewood V FL Nittaku Fastarc G1-FH Stiga DNA Pro-S MAX BH Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices. Raw power without control means nothing |
Posted By: the_theologian
Date Posted: 01/28/2014 at 3:43pm
The thread is inconclusive? There is not even the slightest shred of evidence that FZD uses a Viscaria with Infinity VPS handle in that thread. First of all, the ambiguous photo which opens the thread is not an Infinity handle. Second, there's no evidence that the paddle belongs to FZD. Third, the photo I zoomed in on, where we actually see FZD, is most obviously not a Viscaria. tabten5, you're right, I lacked civility in my response. I tend to get irritated by the propagation of internet hoaxes. And I'm really surprised that you, a member I've always found to be sensible and helpful, would quote something as if it's fact, with a link to a totally ridiculous thread. ------------- Appelgren Allplay ST / Vega Europe max |
Posted By: the_theologian
Date Posted: 01/28/2014 at 4:01pm
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Doing a google search of the images, I see that a similar thread can be found on a Vietnamese, Japanase, and Chinese forum. Each time, the isolated photos are shown without ever having such a paddle in FZD's hands.
edited to add: I'm more than willing to believe in a handle-swap conspiracy... but only when it's presented with credibility ------------- Appelgren Allplay ST / Vega Europe max |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 01/28/2014 at 4:59pm
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I get where Theologian is coming from completely, and I suppose we are all a bit uncivil sometimes (I know I am guilty on occasion). Let me give one example of how stuff like this sometimes gets started. Recently, in a thread about the new ZJK blades, a frequent poster here (who is not a moderator) and who likes to review blades that he is selling wrote this: "The different with Viscaria, both 93 gr, it has more feel, more whipping effect, more solid feel. I just wonder if Zhang Jike is using ZJK ALC with Viscaria Handle at the past. Now Butterfly really make ZJK ALC for public." Next thing you know, his "just wonder" will somehow become an accepted fact, at least in some places, no matter how irrational it is. Why would Btfly have ZJK put Viscaria handles on a blade they are selling for more money? Wouldn't they rather sell $150-350 fancy new ZJK blades as opposed to $105 Viscarias? Does it strike anyone that they are that bad at marketing their stuff? In fact, are they not actually quite good at marketing? (By the way, the fancy new ZJK blades are not bad, this same poster did outline some of the ways they are actually different from Viscaria, so the thread had value. However, it is quite obvious that ZJK himself is not using any of them, as recently as earlier this week. So why even hint otherwise?). I've never seen an Infinity blade, so can't say what FZD's current blade is, but I am pretty sure what it isn't. |
Posted By: ejmaster
Date Posted: 01/28/2014 at 5:04pm
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Fzd blade is infinity. That layering from the picture is infinity. Not Viscaria. I got several hd blade pictures from latest tournaments and they all seem infinity. Besides i do not think Fzd is going to lie in his interviews about using an Infinity. -------------  EJ Club. MM T05(fh)/Srvfx(bh);  InfVps,LSW,Viscaria,RwV,TBAlc,PG7,yextsc,yeo. EJmaster wood.
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Posted By: tabten5
Date Posted: 01/28/2014 at 5:37pm
The suspicion has existed before that thread, especially given the frequency of new sponsor handles (Liqin, Ovtcharov, etc, etc.) Logically, it's unlikely that FZD changed the blade he grew up with to one that is so different in most aspects (head size, handle, thickness, plies, feel, weight, speed, and so on.) Without any pictures, I would remain suspicious (as many others do). I'm not suggesting that thread provides evidence which would apply in a courtroom, and rest assured my original reply was meant tongue-in-cheek. The short answer is that nobody here knows what he is using; it could be anything (including the Infinity.) ------------- T05 2.1 | VISCARIA | T64 1.9 |
Posted By: piligrim
Date Posted: 01/28/2014 at 6:20pm
maybe he just wanted to test it and to write review :) |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 01/28/2014 at 6:32pm
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So which of the frequent commenters here is actually Fan Zhendong? It would be funny if it was Igorponger. Yes. |
Posted By: mrdoodzki
Date Posted: 01/28/2014 at 8:20pm
wow i didn't know there was an issue like this. i always thought fzd definitely used infinity vps, same with xu xin with his nct blade  ------------- Blade -- Stiga Clipper FH -- DHS Hurricane 3 BH -- Japtec Experience HAPPINESS is....sometimes no words, just the sound of a ball |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 01/28/2014 at 8:33pm
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FZD uses infinityvps and the 2nd layer of spruce is evident on the pic, if it was a viscaria the 2nd layer would have been different. i have seen other better pics and it is infinity for sure that is aside from a stiga insider who is a reliable source than just people who speculates here and yes, that stiga insider also told me about non-stiga rubbers being used by their players so the notion that because stiga sponsors these players, the equipment they are using are not stiga and are just marketing hype ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: the_theologian
Date Posted: 01/28/2014 at 9:06pm
there's not an issue ------------- Appelgren Allplay ST / Vega Europe max |
Posted By: the_theologian
Date Posted: 01/28/2014 at 9:09pm
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edit: disregard. who cares.
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Posted By: jonyer1980
Date Posted: 03/03/2014 at 3:48am
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Can you tell me the width lenght of the blade? ------------- Rosewood V FL Nittaku Fastarc G1-FH Stiga DNA Pro-S MAX BH Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices. Raw power without control means nothing |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 03/03/2014 at 4:54am
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compact head size, smaller than butterfly ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: tt-panopticum
Date Posted: 03/03/2014 at 8:09am
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Hi, width : 149.5mm length: 155.0mm Best regards |
Posted By: dabeda
Date Posted: 03/04/2014 at 12:05am
| VPS vs Maplewood 5 vs Rosewood XO ?.. anyone can compare ? |
Posted By: vutiendat1337
Date Posted: 03/14/2014 at 3:38am
Hmmm, I am sure Ma Long would have something to say about switching from composite to all-wood blades.
Just because you establish a logical reasoning doesn't mean it is valid. ------------- bty petr korbel st fh: donic bluefire red bh: dawei iqul black USATT:1811 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=40320&title=feedbackvutiendat1337" rel="nofollow - Feedback me |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 03/14/2014 at 8:44am
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speed = maplewood 5 < vps < rosewood 5 xo ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: jonyer1980
Date Posted: 03/14/2014 at 1:21pm
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I ordered an Infinity V FL master yesterday to replace my seasoned Acoustic. I´ll let you know my personal review when it arrives. I really hope all this hype about the blade will be proved and fit my game, since I was lacking the awesome feeling of Violin since i upgraded to Acoustic. ------------- Rosewood V FL Nittaku Fastarc G1-FH Stiga DNA Pro-S MAX BH Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices. Raw power without control means nothing |
Posted By: TonyL
Date Posted: 03/15/2014 at 5:09am
That'd be great. I'm hoping to order one at a later time!
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Posted By: Mickael
Date Posted: 03/15/2014 at 7:58am
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Nothing compares to the feeling of violin, i don't want to discourage you but you will hate the infinity it is kind of dead compared to violin, hope i am wrong but sure i am not! ------------- Butterfly Fransizka ZLC FL Butterfly Dignics 05 2.1 FH Butterfly Tenergy 05 1.9 BH |
Posted By: ejmaster
Date Posted: 03/15/2014 at 8:05am
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I agree with Mickael. Very different blades. Violin has lot more vibration and feeling. ------------- EJ Club. MM T05(fh)/Srvfx(bh); InfVps,LSW,Viscaria,RwV,TBAlc,PG7,yextsc,yeo. EJmaster wood.
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Posted By: jonyer1980
Date Posted: 03/15/2014 at 8:52am
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I know its hard to get that sweet feeling but i noticed Violin lacked a bit of raw power once you step back off the table and needed lot of power and didn't go so well with Chinese rubbers. On the other hand Acoustic has nothing to do with violin, it was fine for me on my FH but too bouncy for my BH and well as blocking or short game. ------------- Rosewood V FL Nittaku Fastarc G1-FH Stiga DNA Pro-S MAX BH Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices. Raw power without control means nothing |
Posted By: mrdoodzki
Date Posted: 03/15/2014 at 11:23am
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ive been using infinity vps for a month now. as far as i can tell this is the fastest all-wood blade ive used, as fast as my previous blade which was tibhar rapid carbon. its vibration, as you would get from most all wood blades, really gives you a good feel with the ball. i recommend people use this with the latest tensor rubbers, and maybe the tenergys too. the rubbers that i have used with the vps were bryce, bluefire m2, desto f2, h3 national blue sponge, and acuda s1. vps really sucked with bryce, it was really....dead. desto f2 was ok, i just felt the rubber was too slow on vps. same with h3 national blue sponge, although it did bite the ball better, being tacky and having more dwell time because of vps's allwood characteristic. acuda s1 is good on vps, but im not liking the "cracking" sounds acuda s1 makes because it then bottoms out. now comes bluefire m2, this is were i felt vps really shined. the ball had a really good arch with bfm2 + vps and it rarely bottoms out... ------------- Blade -- Stiga Clipper FH -- DHS Hurricane 3 BH -- Japtec Experience HAPPINESS is....sometimes no words, just the sound of a ball |
Posted By: vutiendat1337
Date Posted: 03/15/2014 at 11:32am
How would you compare it to Korbel or Clipper? ------------- bty petr korbel st fh: donic bluefire red bh: dawei iqul black USATT:1811 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=40320&title=feedbackvutiendat1337" rel="nofollow - Feedback me |
Posted By: mrdoodzki
Date Posted: 03/15/2014 at 12:13pm
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ive used neither of them. sorry. ive done a couple of hits with other all wood blades. i dont remember most of them. what i do remember is with the stiga master classic and stiga cr classic, and also yasaka extra carbon and also a few other carbon and allwood blades that vibrate a lot. i can tell you vps is faster than any of the ones i've used or atleast have hit a couple of balls with. the only blades faster than vps are sardius and the t-11 ------------- Blade -- Stiga Clipper FH -- DHS Hurricane 3 BH -- Japtec Experience HAPPINESS is....sometimes no words, just the sound of a ball |
Posted By: jonyer1980
Date Posted: 03/15/2014 at 12:44pm
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I really doubt it could be faster that Clipper&neither par with it. Considering the total thickness as well as the ply construction i think it can be closer to a a Korber in terms of speed. ------------- Rosewood V FL Nittaku Fastarc G1-FH Stiga DNA Pro-S MAX BH Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices. Raw power without control means nothing |
Posted By: speaquinox
Date Posted: 03/16/2014 at 8:08am
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I owned VPS for a while. It is OFF- or OFF at most. Nowhere close to being a fast blade. ------------- Innerforce ALC, Glayzer / Rozena |
Posted By: ejmaster
Date Posted: 03/16/2014 at 9:17am
Agreed +1. And mine was a good weight one. Do not know what blade is mrdoodzki talking about. A MM or a Viscaria are quite more powerful and faster blades than the vps. Also a clipper cr. Fast close to a korbel. Imo the vps is all+-off-. It needs arm power. ------------- EJ Club. MM T05(fh)/Srvfx(bh); InfVps,LSW,Viscaria,RwV,TBAlc,PG7,yextsc,yeo. EJmaster wood.
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Posted By: mrdoodzki
Date Posted: 03/16/2014 at 10:12am
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then i guess ive been using slower blades since i really feel that vps is fast. [EMAIL= ][/EMAIL] in any case, i'm really liking the quality of my shots with vps as compared to my previous blades ------------- Blade -- Stiga Clipper FH -- DHS Hurricane 3 BH -- Japtec Experience HAPPINESS is....sometimes no words, just the sound of a ball |
Posted By: harldhzx
Date Posted: 03/16/2014 at 11:26am
| Agree with above. VPS is quite fast compared to, say, Rosewood XO but noticably slower than BTY composites. It is rather stiff which makes a transition from composite to it quite easy. You get more control with less power but overall similar feel. |
Posted By: vutiendat1337
Date Posted: 03/16/2014 at 12:59pm
Makes sense since Clipper is 7-ply, Infinity should not be faster. I am a 5-ply blade fan ^__^ Played with Korbel for the last year and thinking of a trying something "new" lol ------------- bty petr korbel st fh: donic bluefire red bh: dawei iqul black USATT:1811 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=40320&title=feedbackvutiendat1337" rel="nofollow - Feedback me |
Posted By: jonyer1980
Date Posted: 03/19/2014 at 12:38pm
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Mine arrived today morning. In fact, quality& finishing has improved from those rough old Stiga Series, although it´s still far away from top-notch BYT-DARKER-Nittaku blade. I don´t consider to sand the handle, it´s ok. Since I don´t have enough time to try it, i´ll make a brief review once i could tried a few sessions. Ive only took a ball with the bare blade, and it´s not bouncier than my Acoustic, nearly the same. Knuckle test knock also sounds a different pitch from my Acoustic, maybe a bit more grave, somehow more compact, harder. Thickness are also so close, maybe Infinity only a tad thicker. I´ll begin testing it with 05 FH 05FX BH, but i don´t think i can´t match with Chinese boosted on FH, since looks like powerful enough ------------- Rosewood V FL Nittaku Fastarc G1-FH Stiga DNA Pro-S MAX BH Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices. Raw power without control means nothing |
Posted By: tt-panopticum
Date Posted: 03/19/2014 at 1:04pm
I only have one Acoustic, but that's 5.85mm - all my Infinity are 6.15-6.20mm The Infinity "official" spec of "5.9mm" is wrong - at least to my experience of 5 different Infinity. |
Posted By: jonyer1980
Date Posted: 03/19/2014 at 6:35pm
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Yes, you´re right. It´s maybe 0.2-0.3mm thicker ------------- Rosewood V FL Nittaku Fastarc G1-FH Stiga DNA Pro-S MAX BH Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices. Raw power without control means nothing |
Posted By: bayttplayer
Date Posted: 03/19/2014 at 6:50pm
no...VPS is slow in mid power but very fast in max power. Look at those powerful shot from FZD.. ------------- Innerforce-ZLC FL + H3 + T80 |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 03/19/2014 at 9:22pm
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its off- to off at most but mostly off- ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: jonyer1980
Date Posted: 03/22/2014 at 12:28pm
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Well, at last i could try Infinity V this morning and now i´ve got a closer idea about how it performs. First of all, I don´t want to dissapoint FZD supporters but i really really doubt he´s in fact playing with Infinity V, in spite he´s got amazing technique, footwork, power etc... FZD he´s for sure between 5 best gifted pro players all over the world, but he´s still a humang being, so would swear that it´s almost imposible to get that super speed with INF-V playing with chinese ultraboosted rubbers. Maybe he plays with infinity handles on something like clipper, how knows. Unless i can prove it& and see it with my own eyes, I think he´s lying about his equipment. As Yogi mentioned, i would rate this blade as OFF- mainly. Mine was 83gr, 05fh 05fx bh. I´ve been playing Acoustic for a few years so i´ll try to compare both. There´s less vibration than acouctic, but it´s not as stiff and hard as clipper or hardwood series. Speed: I don´t think it´s faster than my former Acoustic, perhaps a tad slower. It´s somewhere between Primorac Off- / Korbel Euro version (oval plastic tag). It´s great for close to the table play, but once you step back a few from the table you´ll feel the lacks of power. Spin: I think i can generate even more spin than my acoustic, at least i believe it can bite the ball even better . Brushing looping and services are a breeze, loaded with tons of spin. Control: This is a control based blade, with typical great feeling trademark of Stiga. You can do anything, but if you´re looking for raw speed, then it´s not your blade. It shines on services, as well as service returns, chops, dropshots flicks on the table. Ball placement is great, you can drive easily with incredible accuracy. I´ll give a more detailed review in a future since i these are my first impressions.
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Posted By: vutiendat1337
Date Posted: 03/22/2014 at 6:08pm
Just because it's not as fast a carbon / composite blades? There are a lot of pros who use 5-ply woods like Korbel off. I don't see that argument having real grounds on whether FZD uses it Infinity or not. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't and it's just infinity handles, nor I am claiming I know what he's using. ------------- bty petr korbel st fh: donic bluefire red bh: dawei iqul black USATT:1811 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=40320&title=feedbackvutiendat1337" rel="nofollow - Feedback me |
Posted By: ejmaster
Date Posted: 03/22/2014 at 7:20pm
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Fzd is using the infinity. It is quite clear in the pictures. Not just the handle but the layering. I have been using it for months. A 87 gr weight sample and it has all the performance to play at any level. It allows more arm power. Fzd also talked about selecting the weight. The infinity is a perfect off- blade to play at top level. ------------- EJ Club. MM T05(fh)/Srvfx(bh); InfVps,LSW,Viscaria,RwV,TBAlc,PG7,yextsc,yeo. EJmaster wood.
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Posted By: kurokami
Date Posted: 03/23/2014 at 2:01am
+1. yea, i don't see the extra layers in any of his pics. http://www.stadiumastro.com/DesktopModules/Packflashpublish/resources/handlers/imageResize.ashx?image=~/Portals/0/ArticleImages/Table%20Tennis//zhendongfan_117ey5psvu5bg18gv4d57tqvy8.jpg" rel="nofollow - http://www.stadiumastro.com/DesktopModules/Packflashpublish/resources/handlers/imageResize.ashx?image=~/Portals/0/ArticleImages/Table%20Tennis//zhendongfan_117ey5psvu5bg18gv4d57tqvy8.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7369/10905111343_32f887bfe8_o.jpg" rel="nofollow - http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7369/10905111343_32f887bfe8_o.jpg it's not the clearest, but there was no shade difference unlike here: http://www.golfpost.de/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/timo-boll.jpg" rel="nofollow - http://www.golfpost.de/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/timo-boll.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5b/Mondial_Ping_-_Mens_Singles_-_Round_4_-_Ma_Long-Koki_Niwa_-_11.jpg" rel="nofollow - http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5b/Mondial_Ping_-_Men's_Singles_-_Round_4_-_Ma_Long-Koki_Niwa_-_11.jpg http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/yan-chn-number-world-serve-liebherr-world-table-tennis-championships-may-may-paris-fra-33570520.jpg
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Posted By: kurokami
Date Posted: 03/23/2014 at 2:36am
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hahaha i was listening to 2014 china trials. whoever was casting called fan zhendong "little fatty" ------------- Viscaria H3N/T05 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=65345&KW=&title=feedback-kurokami |
Posted By: jonyer1980
Date Posted: 03/23/2014 at 4:14am
Maybe mine´s too light for 83. Even my Acoustic 79gr was faster than INF-V. According to the pics, his blade looks quite thin, not as thick as typical clipper so whatever he´s using for boosting his rubbers must have a very strong effect.. I´ve been trying to tune it with Falco tempo long and never could get that amount of speed on any chinese rubber ------------- Rosewood V FL Nittaku Fastarc G1-FH Stiga DNA Pro-S MAX BH Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices. Raw power without control means nothing |
Posted By: vutiendat1337
Date Posted: 03/23/2014 at 4:19am
Well, he looks like a bull. That strength must manifest somewhere ;) there is your explanation  ------------- bty petr korbel st fh: donic bluefire red bh: dawei iqul black USATT:1811 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=40320&title=feedbackvutiendat1337" rel="nofollow - Feedback me |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 03/23/2014 at 10:18am
That's his CNT nickname. It's usually translated as "Chubby". ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: ejmaster
Date Posted: 03/23/2014 at 11:00am
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Page 1 this thread there is a pretty clear image from the_theologian with fzd infinity blade layering. There are more images. That is the infinity blade 5 ply layering with the burnt spruce 2nd ply. ------------- EJ Club. MM T05(fh)/Srvfx(bh); InfVps,LSW,Viscaria,RwV,TBAlc,PG7,yextsc,yeo. EJmaster wood.
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Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 03/23/2014 at 11:07am
So you're comparing yourself to a world class player ?? ------------- Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)林德成 HardBat:Hock 3-Ply /Dr Evil |
Posted By: jonyer1980
Date Posted: 03/23/2014 at 12:48pm
Where am I comparing to fzd? Can you read properly? There are thousands amateurs that CAN easily make run the ball faster than any pro, just like my bro who's 193m&95kg. Its not a matter of technique its just only raw strength. So simple. ------------- Rosewood V FL Nittaku Fastarc G1-FH Stiga DNA Pro-S MAX BH Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices. Raw power without control means nothing |
Posted By: jonyer1980
Date Posted: 03/23/2014 at 12:49pm
Where am I comparing to fzd? Can you read properly? There are thousands amateurs that CAN easily make run the ball faster than any pro, just like my bro who's 193m&95kg. Its not a matter of technique its just only raw strength. So simple. ------------- Rosewood V FL Nittaku Fastarc G1-FH Stiga DNA Pro-S MAX BH Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices. Raw power without control means nothing |
Posted By: tiehwen
Date Posted: 03/23/2014 at 12:53pm
Have you, ah Lam, started stockpiling these VPS V already for flipping to make $$$$ for your retirement? How does this play vs your favourite Viscaria or TBS or even Photino? ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17089" rel="nofollow - I love & am inspired by Malala Yousufzai's "True & Tough" LIFE STORY |
Posted By: kurokami
Date Posted: 03/23/2014 at 1:51pm
 just wow. hao shuai is not a big guy. seeing him play at NA teams, no one's shot thus far was even close in speed. and we have 6'4" football players, weight lifters, ppl even taller and heavier than your bro. strength matters, but not as much as you think. seeing world class pros in person, u can really appreciate their speed. overhead cam angles on videos don't do any justice. ------------- Viscaria H3N/T05 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=65345&KW=&title=feedback-kurokami |
Posted By: jonyer1980
Date Posted: 03/23/2014 at 3:35pm
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I have had the opportunity to watch´em live at 10 metres close to me when La General was playing ECL´S during a few years. I could see Vladi, Timo, Dima, Süss, Primorac, Gardos, Chen Qi, Machado, Juanito... what really surprise me was their footwork, capacity to read the game and anticipation to their opponents, and well as their skill to hit the ball always with perfect body balance, but once again, i´ve seen many amateurs (not me) that can hit same or even harder. Back to Topic i think any bluefire (M1/m2) will suit better that 05 if you don´t want to tune it. ------------- Rosewood V FL Nittaku Fastarc G1-FH Stiga DNA Pro-S MAX BH Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices. Raw power without control means nothing |
Posted By: bayttplayer
Date Posted: 03/24/2014 at 1:13pm
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I got a 83 gram, but feel has plenty of power, not sure how it characterizes as a off - blade. It has very hard ourter layer and soft inside, therefore it needs some power kick the ball into blade. Is slow in mid power but very fast in full power. I think infinity is design for high level player. Well, i'm not a high level player but I can see the point why FZD pick this blade. With infinty, it is really with infinity support, it doesn't lock of your power, speed is linear reflect to your power. very controllable loop with low arc, that is exactly what pros looking for. This blade might not fit 90% of us, but I think FZD is using it. ------------- Innerforce-ZLC FL + H3 + T80 |
Posted By: peter79
Date Posted: 03/24/2014 at 11:46pm
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I bought the china version from this site, can choose weight, I choose the 91 gr... http://www.buychina.com/items/stiga-stiga-card-stiga-infinity-vps-v-diamond-5-fan-zhendong-selected-in-kind-zvvomsrrkqn ------------- Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr H3 National Orange 40 deg 2.2 Baracuda Max 182 Gr |
Posted By: aroonkl
Date Posted: 03/25/2014 at 12:13am
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I'm not sure where are you coming from as this blade has plenty of power. You might really use to slow blade. I would rate it the same as others at off-. It is no where near ALC composite. FZD referred in the interview as he has to use self-power. Which means it lacks top-gear and he has to compensate by his strength. I would bet if he switches to ALC or super-ALC things, we will see the balls fly. Not sure about his overall game though.
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Posted By: bayttplayer
Date Posted: 03/25/2014 at 12:55am
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come on.. if so, I think this blade not for you. as what I mention, it require minimal power to kick the ball into blade before you see the effect, but after that speed will linear reflect to power you put. I play with ALC, Viscaria too, yes is much fast for blocking and action in slow, but full power loop not as fast as infinity. All pros has to use self-power, compare with now you think FZD can makes the ball even faster but switches to ALC? No, carbon blade lacks top-gear but not wood. that's why many pros use wood blade like WLQ who play away from table.
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Posted By: aroonkl
Date Posted: 03/25/2014 at 5:27am
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My main blade is slower than V. But I have and play with V, ALC and Innerforce zlf. Carbon blade lacks top gear but not wood? That is funny. You mean 5W+ Carbon has less top gear than the same 5W. So Ma Lin carbon is has less top gear than Ma Lin regular version. Also as Acoustic carbon is slower than normal Acoustic. Primoc Carbon and ..........  All pro has self power for sure. But find the FZD.'s interview and read yourself. He believes he lost some power but gain quality of his balls from using pure wood instead of composite.
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Posted By: almanian
Date Posted: 03/25/2014 at 5:35am
| imo, he's using a vps handle with different blade |
Posted By: peter79
Date Posted: 03/25/2014 at 6:01am
http://s307.photobucket.com/user/peternmelly/media/T2l2O3XptXXXXXXXXX_14542560.jpg.html" rel="nofollow"> http://s307.photobucket.com/user/peternmelly/media/T2Viq1XtdaXXXXXXXX_14542560.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  Mine will arrive in 2 weeks, perfect weight  ------------- Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr H3 National Orange 40 deg 2.2 Baracuda Max 182 Gr |
Posted By: TonyL
Date Posted: 03/25/2014 at 6:02am
What's the difference between buying from the Chinese Stiga Supplier other than being able to choose the weight? |
Posted By: peter79
Date Posted: 03/25/2014 at 6:08am
well I buy clipper cr with paper sticker and compare it with Stiga china version. both has the same weight 90 gr, the chinese market version has better finish and better feel, more solid... ------------- Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr H3 National Orange 40 deg 2.2 Baracuda Max 182 Gr |
Posted By: CornelTT
Date Posted: 03/25/2014 at 6:19am
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I think Infinity VPS/Intesity NCT are not comparable to Viscaria. I played both Infinity/Intensity for about 4 months and now I turned back to my Viscaria. The differrence is huge. I find my Viscaria better in all aspects: control, speed, spin, close or far from the table. Viscaria is very versatile compared to these two blades. Intensity is very good for topspin close to the table but lacks power when it comes to blocks. Infinity has good control and spin close to the table (not better than Viscaria anyway) but once you make a step from the table you feel it lacks power. I consider Infinity and Intensity are in essence topspin + control blades for a close to the table game. But Viscaria is better in all aspects: excelent feeling and control, alows you to play a very complex tennis (topspin, blocks, pushes, chops...etc anything you want, close or far from the table). It is a complete blade for all amateur to top proffesional players. ------------- former tester and collector, now just player |
Posted By: bayttplayer
Date Posted: 03/25/2014 at 1:32pm
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well, obvious wood more easy to bend than carbon, right? carbon blade faster when ball just kick in the carbon layer but after that the change is small. Let say you put 70% of your power, you will get 80 speed on carbon and 70 on wood. but if you put 90% of your power the effect might be something like 90 on carbon 95 on wood. for infinity, it designed with very hard outer layer if the outer layer bends a lot it can store huge energy. just because most of us for most of time not able to do so. I agree this blade not fitting most of us, well, not the best blade for me either. But I can see why pros pick this blade, they don't have off- shots.... me.. I have no problem with FH, ball go deep, long dwell time very fast and controlable , but BH not able to do so. This blade is for player with fast stroke, someone like Truong and Liang Yonghui with fast stroke will work. Acutually, I gave my infinity to Liang Yonghui to try. I can fell the ball super fast, but spin not as much as his viscaria somehow. http://216.119.100.169/history/rating/History/Phistory.asp?Pid=75418" rel="nofollow -
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Posted By: aroonkl
Date Posted: 03/26/2014 at 2:04am
| Go ask Liang. His answer might wake you up. |
Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 03/26/2014 at 2:23am
Good explanation. Unfortunately most 2-nd-ply composite blades lack feel and top-gear power. They even create the impression of hollow powerlessness when hitting hard. |
Posted By: peter79
Date Posted: 03/26/2014 at 5:28am
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I manage to get 92.97 gr and 94 gr ( with plastic sticker ) The sticker it self is about 2 gr. So real weight is 90 and 92 gr. This blade can be slow or fast because this is all wood blade, it depends on the weight. I have tried 88 gr and 92 gr DHS 506, the 88 gr is softer and slower. ------------- Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr H3 National Orange 40 deg 2.2 Baracuda Max 182 Gr |
Posted By: typn
Date Posted: 03/26/2014 at 6:01am
is there a "pro" version of this blade (with silver stamp like this)?  ------------- Blade -- DHS Long V FH -- DHS H3 BH -- DHS TG3-60 |
Posted By: peter79
Date Posted: 03/26/2014 at 7:33am
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The silver sticker is China domestic market version... ------------- Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr H3 National Orange 40 deg 2.2 Baracuda Max 182 Gr |
Posted By: peter79
Date Posted: 03/26/2014 at 7:35am
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Here is the link for the silver sticker... http://www.buychina.com/items/ying-love-stiga-stiga-card-stiga-infinity-vps-v-diamond-5-fan-zhendong-with-authentic-licensed-tqqommrmlpk ------------- Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr H3 National Orange 40 deg 2.2 Baracuda Max 182 Gr |
Posted By: bayttplayer
Date Posted: 03/26/2014 at 1:36pm
I did, he don't like the spin, that's what I hesitate contiue to use this blade also. It may not be a good blade for him too. ------------- Innerforce-ZLC FL + H3 + T80 |
Posted By: peter79
Date Posted: 04/18/2014 at 10:46pm
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Infinity VPS has arrived, since mine is 92.6 gr, it's almost as fast as W968... I will do the testing to compare it with W968. I use same rubber on both blades so it's a fair comparison. http://s307.photobucket.com/user/peternmelly/media/20140417_184139.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s307.photobucket.com/user/peternmelly/media/20140417_184903.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s307.photobucket.com/user/peternmelly/media/20140417_184836.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s307.photobucket.com/user/peternmelly/media/20140417_201311.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s307.photobucket.com/user/peternmelly/media/20140418_212940.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s307.photobucket.com/user/peternmelly/media/20140419_081139.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  ------------- Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr H3 National Orange 40 deg 2.2 Baracuda Max 182 Gr |
Posted By: pryde
Date Posted: 04/18/2014 at 11:09pm
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Posted By: J.P. Gatien
Date Posted: 04/19/2014 at 3:42am
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@Peter If you want to sell the 90g VPS, throw me a msg. cheers
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Posted By: ejmaster
Date Posted: 04/19/2014 at 10:01am
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Nice infinity vps samples peter79. These are good deal. ------------- EJ Club. MM T05(fh)/Srvfx(bh); InfVps,LSW,Viscaria,RwV,TBAlc,PG7,yextsc,yeo. EJmaster wood.
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Posted By: peter79
Date Posted: 04/20/2014 at 9:06am
It's my friend's, you may request the weight at buychina.com... ------------- Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr H3 National Orange 40 deg 2.2 Baracuda Max 182 Gr |
Posted By: peter79
Date Posted: 04/20/2014 at 9:08am
Thanks ejmaster I just wonder if FZD's Infinity has the same head size as the commercial one... The head size of VPS is smaller than Violin... But I put H3 National Blue sponge and T 64 it feels just right. If bigger head size, it will be very head heavy. ------------- Andro Wanokiwami AO Offensive 83 gr H3 National Orange 40 deg 2.2 Baracuda Max 182 Gr |
Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 04/20/2014 at 10:23am
| I wonder will Stiga ever make the original OC with Koto, implementing all modern technologies... |
Posted By: ejmaster
Date Posted: 04/20/2014 at 1:47pm
This would be great. ------------- EJ Club. MM T05(fh)/Srvfx(bh); InfVps,LSW,Viscaria,RwV,TBAlc,PG7,yextsc,yeo. EJmaster wood.
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