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AndySmith 
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Undefeatable logic, obviously. Once 80fx is out, no doubt I'll be looking for something in that gap between it and 05fx. And so on, in sequence, until my inevitable bankruptcy.
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assiduous
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Posted: 11/14/2013 at 2:18pm |
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is there a single top 100 player that uses any kind of FX?
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AndySmith
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Posted: 11/14/2013 at 2:26pm |
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Me. I'm easily top 100 on my street.
Rumours are Zhang Zike and Yan An are using 05fx these days... |
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Posted: 11/14/2013 at 2:37pm |
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AcudaDave
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Posted: 11/14/2013 at 2:45pm |
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See Matt...that's the problem...Eugene is above 2200. He would probably play great with just about any decent rubber. The people I talked with that tried T80 said it had a lack of spin and just didn't do anything great that the other Tenergy rubbers do. Anyway...that's just what they told me.
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Baal
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Posted: 11/14/2013 at 2:45pm |
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T80 is gaining popularity as a BH rubber among some high level players. I saw a lot of players a lot better than 2000-2200 using it on BH on my last trip to Germany about a year ago. I tried it after seeing that and I like it a lot on that side,have been using it since then, but don't like it very much on FH. It is a bit deader than T05, but it can still generate plenty of spin. The only way to know how it would behave in FX is to try it. As with any rubber. (Better information comes from trying it than "talking to a few guys"). I am not optimistic about the outcome of FX on a T80 topsheet, though.
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AndySmith
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Posted: 11/14/2013 at 2:52pm |
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It has good spin. It lacks the big arc of 05, but has better close game handling. Lacks a bit of 05 attacking potential, gives a little short game control in return.
If people like 05, and are happy with (or just used to) it's spin sensitivity, then they won't see the point if 80 at all |
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slevin
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Posted: 11/14/2013 at 2:53pm |
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Yes. But since he's semi-pro, his sports career depends on optimization. I'm pretty sure he's not just agnostic on rubber choice given that he has more incentive and more at stake (than we do) to select the best possible one for his game.
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Posted: 11/14/2013 at 3:12pm |
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For some time now Kreanga has been playing with 05-FX on his backhand. But his backhand is really really bad, so no need to pay attention to that  |
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Posted: 11/14/2013 at 7:16pm |
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Posted: 11/14/2013 at 7:49pm |
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Now I have no doubt... T80 FX is coming to town...
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Posted: 11/14/2013 at 8:50pm |
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Ha! There is no way you can have power or mid distance game on 3000 level with that sponge! It sux, although in its defense its probably the best soft sponge on the market. All others totally blow : ). Still, soft sponges are like trying to kill somebody with a pillow.
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Posted: 11/15/2013 at 12:33am |
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You can put a hammer behind the pillow. I'd use the Photino or Iolite Neo for fire power with the T80-FX. |
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To answer an earlier question, Mizutani uses T80 on his BH.
Either Yan An or ZJK, Kai Zhang, Kreanga, people with great backhands and use 05FX.
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Well ZJK and Yan An don't play that much BH from mid-distance et don't play that much with power on the BH either (relatively to their level) so no problem for them. Also there is a chance that a pro using FX sponge selects a not so soft sponge just a bit softer than the usual Tenergy sponge.
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Posted: 11/15/2013 at 5:00am |
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No doubt Butterfly will continue to cash in on the Tenergy name, making a variant for every possible style of play. I predict there will be a Short Pimple Tenergy within 2 years time.
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AndySmith
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You have a long-established, strange mental block about soft sponges. You can get plenty of power with them. They just behave differently than harder sponges, and have their good and bad qualities, like anything. Personally, I don't care in the slightest what the top 100 are using. I only care what works for me, and I've used soft sponges on the BH side for a long time. I hit hard and flat, and they suit me.
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Posted: 11/15/2013 at 5:24am |
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In modern TT, the best game is to prevent an attack from opponent while you spend as less effort as good, IMHO.
And Tenergy 05FX does it very well, esp in Chinese BH new style. The ball drops off so close to the net and kick down quickly, causes no time for a FH loop-drive at BH side. Tenergy 64 is good but it brings the ball a bit longer and easier for op to do a loop kill. |
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There is no real "pro", "prov" or "NT" H3 in the market.
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In fairness, they are less guilty of this than most other manufacturers. How many forms of Xiom Omega exist? And Hexer? And Boost? And Calibra? What is the difference between Evolution and Aurus, really?
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Posted: 11/16/2013 at 2:39am |
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Yes very true.
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You are correct in other cases but Evo and Aurus are quite different rubbers imho. Evo has distinctly more pronounced kick and is heavier if I am not mistaken. |
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Posted: 11/17/2013 at 10:43am |
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Yes but Evo and Aurus are more similar than T25 and T64
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... from the "best" to "total crap"
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It's all or nothing. You have to admire his conviction. |
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That's the libertarian in him - most of us see shades of grey, he sees things as black or white.
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lol. do libertarians go from one extreme to the other on the same issue?
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That's a very silly generalization and we should leave politics out of this forum.
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who are you directing this towards?
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Sorry, I meant to quote NextLevel
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