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    Posted: 06/01/2019 at 12:34pm
Originally posted by pingpungpeng pingpungpeng wrote:

Originally posted by mykonos96 mykonos96 wrote:

Originally posted by pingpungpeng pingpungpeng wrote:

even if you pay 500 dollars for a real authentic h3 used by ma long himself..... it's gonna be a piece of crap.
cause h3 is a piece of crap worth 10 dollars.
what makes it invincible is the boosting they do to it.

Why the other players cant play like ma long if the answer is the boosting?

you mean from the chinese team?
because they all boost, so then it comes to personal skill.

You said that boosting is what makes ma long great. National H3 has diffrent pip structure I ve seen the pics on a russian forum and took a 20 x zoom of a  torn out nat H3 from bercy worl
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I think what people need to tell themselves is that by acquiring a more expensive and "better" gear, it doesn't necessarily lead to higher performance. 

People seem to have this misconception that getting better gears give you higher +strength and dexterity like what you achieve in an RPG. The reality is this couldn't be farther from truth and in real life it's more like you are trying to use an equipment that's meant for level 80 when you are at 20. You really shouldn't be using it. 
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Originally posted by mykonos96 mykonos96 wrote:

Originally posted by pingpungpeng pingpungpeng wrote:

even if you pay 500 dollars for a real authentic h3 used by ma long himself..... it's gonna be a piece of crap.
cause h3 is a piece of crap worth 10 dollars.
what makes it invincible is the boosting they do to it.

Why the other players cant play like ma long if the answer is the boosting?

you mean from the chinese team?
because they all boost, so then it comes to personal skill.
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Originally posted by pingpungpeng pingpungpeng wrote:

even if you pay 500 dollars for a real authentic h3 used by ma long himself..... it's gonna be a piece of crap.
cause h3 is a piece of crap worth 10 dollars.
what makes it invincible is the boosting they do to it.

Why the other players cant play like ma long if the answer is the boosting?


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even if you pay 500 dollars for a real authentic h3 used by ma long himself..... it's gonna be a piece of crap.
cause h3 is a piece of crap worth 10 dollars.
what makes it invincible is the boosting they do to it.


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Originally posted by kurokami kurokami wrote:

i think it's this guy. i remember seeing "di hu" in my gmail contacts after he pm'd me

How would gmail contacts be tied to forum PM? Unless you mean he emailed. Shouldn’t post that profile anyways, not sure why the witch hunt. 
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Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:

Everyone claims and states "I've got authentic NT blue sponge H3 from a reputable coach". However, if they actually accidentally have a sheet of real H3, they will say "this one definitely is a fake one, I know that!".

I think real H3 has a special smell
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Originally posted by cole_ely cole_ely wrote:

Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:

Everyone claims and states "I've got authentic NT blue sponge H3 from a reputable coach". However, if they actually accidentally have a sheet of real H3, they will say "this one definitely is a fake one, I know that!".

The Nat team stuff I got was very hard sponge. All these fake ones feel Euro.

Hard sponge doesn't mean it is National Team rubber.
There is no real "pro", "prov" or "NT" H3 in the market.
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Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:

Everyone claims and states "I've got authentic NT blue sponge H3 from a reputable coach". However, if they actually accidentally have a sheet of real H3, they will say "this one definitely is a fake one, I know that!".

The Nat team stuff I got was very hard sponge. All these fake ones feel Euro.
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Everyone claims and states "I've got authentic NT blue sponge H3 from a reputable coach". However, if they actually accidentally have a sheet of real H3, they will say "this one definitely is a fake one, I know that!".
There is no real "pro", "prov" or "NT" H3 in the market.
Falco is not a booster
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i think it's this guy. i remember seeing "di hu" in my gmail contacts after he pm'd me
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Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:

No surprised that this guy couldn't get anything.
If he is telling the truth, that mean the rest of us are all lying.

JWTTC closed, and Jiaqi's shop had some clearance sale. I was speaking to her about her stock of H3 national blue sponge. She had over 20 pieces left over at that time, and I was interested in ordering a few in. As I am reselling and need to add USA to RSA cost, and her cost already including cost to get from China to USA etc, it just didn't work out.

So Jiaqi also lying? and selling fakes? lol

Plus, we not even talking about blue sponge only. A guy (who hides behind a user name) claiming that any national version is fake, said his uncle. - i'm sure official lining/dhs store is also lying :)

Like I asked already - share info about the uncle and where he works, which city he is in etc. I can always find out to see if such person reall exists - fair, don't you think?

Any ways, for US buyers, I think the best is for you to contact local Chinese coaches, especially ones that spend time in provincial teams.
They should be able to order in and resell to you - like what Jiaqi did.

AFAIK its very hard to get true national H3 even chinese playing for singapore HK overseas .nat h3 has a diffrent pip structure that makes harder to play when you dont have strenght in your body
The only way I know is trying to contact CNT chinese.coaches at a major tournament I know some guys who bought from zhou yu coach at bercy worlds and they say nat h3 is a diffrent animal very flat arc like short pips
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   ITTF PROHIBITS THE EXCLUSIVE VERSIONs OF RUBBER AND SPONGE.    

   For a long while, ITTF vigorously insisted that a "level playing field" shouls be assured for all the international players worldwide. This is to enable all players to get any of standard equipments from an open market, just from a local retailer. This is why ITTF would only allow permission for those table tennis products that intended for an open market. (mass commercial products). No special/exclusive versions of rubbers is permitted..   

Every world's major TT manufacturer would zilously observing this ITTF requirement of "no exclusiveness", exept for China rubber manufacturer of DHS.
DHS national blue sponge is a special treated edition of the standard commercial sponge, thus it is actually an outlaw product as now forbidden for international competitions.     

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I have tried H3 Neo provincial blue sponge and H3 Neo national blue sponge I got from eBay, both 39/2.10mm, you can definitely tell the difference, the national gets better shots and if wasn't the big price difference, I would definitely use the commercial version of national blue sponge.
To me, if it is $75, then I think it is worth it since plenty of people pay that much for T05. But H3 has way more gears than Tenergy.
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Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

Originally posted by mrdoodzki mrdoodzki wrote:

timo hu is no dead horse..i checked qualizon's post and he is still active in the forum, specifically in the sale section like a few days ago...im so tempted to pressure him in his private msg to say something in this thread or simply troll him lol


Don't do it.  Seriously!


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this is my 2cents on how to identify fakes

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"So perhaps the thread moving forward should focus on where to get the real thing and how to know if it is real.  Or maybe that topic deserves its own thread and this one should just be locked.  I am open to suggestion."

The best thing would be links to sellers with legit H3 Blue Sponge. And sellers to avoid.
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Originally posted by mrdoodzki mrdoodzki wrote:

timo hu is no dead horse..i checked qualizon's post and he is still active in the forum, specifically in the sale section like a few days ago...im so tempted to pressure him in his private msg to say something in this thread or simply troll him lol


Don't do it.  Seriously!
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Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:

No surprised that this guy couldn't get anything.
If he is telling the truth, that mean the rest of us are all lying.

JWTTC closed, and Jiaqi's shop had some clearance sale. I was speaking to her about her stock of H3 national blue sponge. She had over 20 pieces left over at that time, and I was interested in ordering a few in. As I am reselling and need to add USA to RSA cost, and her cost already including cost to get from China to USA etc, it just didn't work out.

So Jiaqi also lying? and selling fakes? lol

Plus, we not even talking about blue sponge only. A guy (who hides behind a user name) claiming that any national version is fake, said his uncle. - i'm sure official lining/dhs store is also lying :)

Like I asked already - share info about the uncle and where he works, which city he is in etc. I can always find out to see if such person reall exists - fair, don't you think?

Any ways, for US buyers, I think the best is for you to contact local Chinese coaches, especially ones that spend time in provincial teams.
They should be able to order in and resell to you - like what Jiaqi did.

Where is here shop located? Any links? How can I contact her. :D And how much does one cost from her? :D
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timo hu is no dead horse..i checked qualizon's post and he is still active in the forum, specifically in the sale section like a few days ago...im so tempted to pressure him in his private msg to say something in this thread or simply troll him lol
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Anyway, the conclusion is clear.  Not all DHS National Hurricane 3 is fake.  This poster, Timo Hu, has been completely discredited and has lost whatever face he may have had.  He will clearly never show the photos he claimed to have.  So it's over.  Someone was wrong on the internet and then behaved badly Shocked 

Perhaps it's now time to stop beating on that very dead horse, unless people feel compelled to continue until its carcass is turned to dust.

So perhaps the thread moving forward should focus on where to get the real thing and how to know if it is real.  Or maybe that topic deserves its own thread and this one should just be locked.  I am open to suggestion.
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No surprised that this guy couldn't get anything.
If he is telling the truth, that mean the rest of us are all lying.

JWTTC closed, and Jiaqi's shop had some clearance sale. I was speaking to her about her stock of H3 national blue sponge. She had over 20 pieces left over at that time, and I was interested in ordering a few in. As I am reselling and need to add USA to RSA cost, and her cost already including cost to get from China to USA etc, it just didn't work out.

So Jiaqi also lying? and selling fakes? lol

Plus, we not even talking about blue sponge only. A guy (who hides behind a user name) claiming that any national version is fake, said his uncle. - i'm sure official lining/dhs store is also lying :)

Like I asked already - share info about the uncle and where he works, which city he is in etc. I can always find out to see if such person reall exists - fair, don't you think?

Any ways, for US buyers, I think the best is for you to contact local Chinese coaches, especially ones that spend time in provincial teams.
They should be able to order in and resell to you - like what Jiaqi did.
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Originally posted by Timo1978 Timo1978 wrote:

Mr."Who" who knows everything is indeed fake. First he claimed to catch the mobile of his uncle to get the pics since he knew his uncle would refuse to give them and now he stated he asked at his uncle to get them .He is just a troll.


agreed +1

like I said earlier:

"To me, this person (Timo Hu) sounds like a bitter customer of one of these "pass down" dealers that got ripped off because he did not enjoy the product he received after paying 100+ USD for it."

Can we close this thread?
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Mr."Who" who knows everything is indeed fake. First he claimed to catch the mobile of his uncle to get the pics since he knew his uncle would refuse to give them and now he stated he asked at his uncle to get them .He is just a troll.
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Timo Hu is a fake. I have friends that were at the checking point of the rackets at Paris for the World Championships. There was no H3 with tenergy sponge. It's a fake.
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He actually has a post in the sales section and I asked him where is the picture on that thread, and he simply get away by saying his uncle won't give him the picture.



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Originally posted by mrdoodzki mrdoodzki wrote:

its august already, the month we have all been waiting for!! lol
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Forget about it.  Timo Hu is gone, nowhere to be found.
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Originally posted by mrdoodzki mrdoodzki wrote:

august has ended and still nothing.... is it safe to conclude that he was bluffing?


OK, you've made your point.  It is pretty obvious the guy was wrong.  Sometimes people are wrong on the internet. It may soon be time to lock this thread. 
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Timo wrote somewhere here that his uncle told him "no" about those pictures. Saga is not continued Ouch
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august has ended and still nothing.... is it safe to conclude that he was bluffing?
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