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I just reconfirmed with Yinhe. A different signature this time within the same email thread.
I certainly feel it different. Bes said okc guys thought better. They'd been using blue box, as had I. |
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Not words from taobao seller's mouth to be exact but probably some excerpts from official announcement perhaps. I see many sellers post the same info in their listing but no mention of where they are from. Anyway I believe only Yinhe themself can give out such detail scientific figures.
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Taobao price of a box of 6 red S40+ is 45RMB andl blue is 30RMB so they are really costing 1.5x more in their home land.
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they're not 1.5x. They're a cost of 4.0 rmb vs 3.4
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1.5x for 10% more
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Because of course Taobao sellers are the ultimate authority and are famous for their truthfulness and reliability.
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Words from a taobao seller. The S in S40+ means Super. It is the fourth generation of seamless ball. Durability increase by 10%. Heat resistance increase by 15 degree which means it can resist heat better during transportation by sea. For now only contracted agents oversea can stock and sell the red stars, and although it is freely available in China, the supply is quite limited at this time.
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Rereading the email, she said they were lighter. Lighter might mean smaller diameter but not necessarily I guess.
If they were to pick out the lighter ones from the batch and sell them for a little more, I probably wouldn't mind paying for them.
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Well,maybe not as bad as "sinister." I keep in mind that good companies like Nittaku actually stocked and sold some rather horrible seamed 40+ balls from China and kept a straight face while doing so. That was sinister. ;^) Counter help isn't necessarily any more reliable than official company communications. So you could well be right. I have digital calipers and will order some of the red balls and compare them. I hope your info is what turns out to be correct. If so, it may show a trend toward makers converging on a narrower range of ball characteristics. |
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If it was just that, it would be pretty sinister to charge an extra 20% for them. I don't have calipers or anything. My eyes aren't that good I suppose to use a ruler. Nor do I have sensitive enough scales.
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That's interesting. Yinhe had a table at the Nationals and I asked the guy there about the red and blue boxes. He said that they were the same ball, but that the red box balls were simply designated for the U.S. market while the blue were overseas. Have you measured any of the red and blue boxed balls? I should have bought some while I was there. Edited by wturber - 07/17/2016 at 1:27am |
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Last night the Yinhe lady confirmed my deduction. They are made smaller within the acceptable range than the blue box version, requiring a little closer spec.
I really like them, and players in several clubs raved over them. One 2000 guy in San Louis Obispo club really did.
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yes, they have different stamps on the balls as well. I feel that the red box ones play as though they're the same weight but they have a slightly smaller diameter. They penetrate the air better and play more like a heavy cell or hardball type cell. They seem to not arc or bounce as high.
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Is there a difference between the red and blue boxes? |
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the one I have is the 9991
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YINHE W 6
- Black, 2,2mm, fh - Red, 2,2mm, bh |
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YINHE W 6
- Black, 2,2mm, fh - Red, 2,2mm, bh |
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Beside the one star ball, I think he means this one too  BTW, taobao has the new S40+ balls on sale but it is expensive (1.5x)
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Balls? I have the 1 star. Not sure if it's the same one. Boxes of 100 and 6
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Thank u, EggHead n Cole !!!
Cole, have u tried the 2 STARS or the PROVINCIAL 1 STAR ? |
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YINHE W 6
- Black, 2,2mm, fh - Red, 2,2mm, bh |
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That's it
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Is it the one? I saw it in the other forum.  |
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they are seamless. I took a pic but it's too big to upload, and don't have time to mess with resizing
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Patiently waiting.. need to order new, but will wait to see if should change from the "regular" Yinhe's.
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Hi, everyone ! Cole, these RED BOX BALLS are SEAMLESS ? Can u post a photo of the box, please ? thank u :) |
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- Black, 2,2mm, fh - Red, 2,2mm, bh |
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Man, hope not.
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I got a few from you this morning to test myself. Hopefully, they won't be expanded in the hot sun while shipping and I can review them later this week.
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They may be just a little smaller than the others.
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Hmm, Yinhe said the red S40+ is the fourth generation of the seamless ball, may be just all smoke and mirrors
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I just tried the new yinhe red box S40+ tonight. I was afraid they were just rebranded for a higher priced market, but they really are better. I can't testify to their durability because I never broke the other ones. But they clearly were quicker through the air and took spin better. They even compared favorably, right out of the box, with the old ones I had that had several hours of play on them.
The bounce is a little lower, which I don't prefer, but I can't have everything. Or it's the one thing I did like about the other plastic balls. If you like the slower tennis feel of the blue box kind, you probably won't prefer these. if you long for the cell ball, you probably will prefer these.
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