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Baal
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I didn't measure.
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Hi Baal,
do you still know the exact handle thickness and wideness of your 2 special ST Viscaria blades ? The wideness of old Viscaria ST handle is the biggest I have seen. It is too wide for normal big hands, also too wide for Timo Boll's hand. That's why butterfly came out with a new blade called Spirit ST. In the catalogue of the year around 2000 when this blade came out- there is short a lyric about the handle optimization. But butterfly will never tell the real dimensions. Spirit ST and ALC ST handle is somehow for smaller hands optimal- it seems to me that it was not build for normal average sized hands. |
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Baal
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There can't be many of those floating around. In fact, I had two made just like it, back when Btfly would still make custom blades to order. It turns out, I didn't like them and sold them for just under what they cost me to have them made (~$250 each). The guy who bought them turned around and put them on Ebay for 600 pounds sterling, each.
At first I thought this might be one of those blades but the ones I had were serial number series P and the on that kakapo links to are N. Here is a picture of my old custom ST blades. I am pretty sure I would have liked the ones you guys made with Stiga and Banda handles better! The ST handles on my custom blades were very uncomfortable and very disappointing, and (it turns out) nothing like the ST handles on the original Viscara ST (something that really angered me). |
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windysummer1
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where is this website from? US or UK?
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king_pong
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Very nice. Almost as nice as with Banda Dacota handle --
Dacota Viscaria Edited by king_pong - 09/21/2017 at 1:23am |
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The conversion is easy. |
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Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)
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Baal
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Simon, you are right, and he (or it) has repeatedly broken the rule about coming into other people's for sale threads to try to sell his own stuff. All within about a two minute period.
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Simon_plays
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The poster above him is the more serious spammer (Leon Truon, linking to those very dodgy websites). I think timoboll86 must have something to do with him.
If you look at those for sale websites (ending in 11), they are almost certainly fake and need to be reported.
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Baal
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timoboll86 is almost certainly a bot (or someone acting just like one) Every single post it just made is meaningless, or nearly so, a few words, and was made within a 30 sec period. How do you post on about eight different threads within 30 secs?
History now. |
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timoboll86
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Viscaria ST is very expensive now
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leon Truong
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Hi friend
Sale off butterfly blades on www.worldsports11.com www.tabletennispro11.com |
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Trice
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Seriously? I thought it was just the other way around. |
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unstopabl3
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Is it really worth paying extra for a fish scale wood design viscaria??? Does it play better than the simple one? Anybody knows about this? Here is a link: http://ttnpp.com/store/home/818-butterfly-viscaria--7.html#/weight-91_92g BTW is viscaria faster than TBS if two blades have same weight? Edited by unstopabl3 - 07/03/2015 at 9:12am |
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aunhh
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It like Viscaria custom made
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aunhh
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I ordered Viscaria custom made from Japan. Custom: weight: 87gram, handle FL, good wood- fish scale
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aunhh
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I ordered Viscaria custom made from Japan. Custom: weight: 87gram, handle FL, good wood- fish scale
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I have owned 6 Vis blades and still keep and use 3 of them. They are all slightly different mainly due to their weights. Attracted by the hype of Vis custom blade, I ordered one in Jan with Butterflyonline.com. But unfortunately I have not received my special order yet because they could not find the right materials to satisfy my weight requirement of 93 grams.
I personally prefer Vis to TBS (tried 3 of them), TB ALC (4 of them), TB T5000 (1) MM (2), and other less popular Butterfly blades after I switched from Stiga to Butterfly blades 3 years ago to better match Tenergies. |
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Baal
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It is a thing of beauty How is if different from regular ones that you buy from Btfly? Is the wood different? The weight? I once had a custom made one with a different handle. |
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aunhh
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This is my Viscaria custom made. I have ordered from Japan https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1424592011184146&set=pcb.1424592571184090&type=1&theater
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benspin
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This is the picture of my custom blades.
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asifgunz
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Talk about hording xp ^
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Baal
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I own about 6 viscarias. And I can tell my two favorites from the others easily but none of them are custom. |
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Baal
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Entirely a matter of taste. Some people prefer blades head heavy. |
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frogger
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Viscaria are head heavy. Weight distribution not as good as TBS. Fact. |
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Ray
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Well, TBH, I wouldn't buy the custom Viscaria or old black metal butterfy tag one under any circumstances. The same applies to the (S)ZLC blades. I thought if someone wants to waste 360usd, it'd be better spent on the brand new custom made Viscaria ST instead of used ordinary one with black tag. Black metal tag Vis, big deal. Even ZJK has a newer one. Or even better advice: buy cheaper blade and the difference up to 360usd donate to the Nepal or people in Africa. Make someone else happy, it will make you feel better, too. Also, I'm not nostalgic, sentimental or collector so I don't care about '60s or '70s Stigas either. Besides, I still have my grandfather's table tennis set I believe from the '40s. Are you interested in Ferrari 166 Inter Spider of TT blades? Offtopic regarding Shelby Cobra: maybe Jay Leno cares about that oldtimer. I'm drooling over 911 Turbo Cabriolet, 650C Spider and GranCabrio MC. And, of course, selling triple priced Accord or Avensis is obviously possible in table tennis as we are witnessing. |
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panany
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for sure not placebo^^
i know table tennis... im good player in france... not very very good ... but not bad too...^^ i dont know my ranking in USA i dont know what my level is in USA.. if someone know french ranking and usa ranking im curious know :) i can feel if 1 blade better than another ^^ and for sure custom viscaria very different than other viscaria :)
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kolevtt
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Not more than $10... |
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pgpg
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Would you be able to tell them apart in a blind test, i.e. without actually knowing that you are playing with a 'custom' one? Just wondering how much benefit here might be coming from pure placebo.
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panany
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haha i dont know this shop i never buy in this shop... just i know viscaria custom really better than commercial version... before in my club 1 chinese training with me.. and she get 1 blade viscaria custom in national team chinese... then i have try 1 time and custom model are really more fast and better feeling than commercial version
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LOOPMEISTER
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Buy a TB ALC ST or TBS ST instead. Same blade, way cheaper. The difference people feel between a Viscaria, TBS, and TB ALC are the same differences they would feel if they tried multiple samples of the same blade. |
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