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Butterfly Solcion, any comments? |
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mastaplann
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Posted: 04/15/2007 at 9:41am |
found this new rubber, but never heard its performance.
any comments to users of this rubber?
thanks.
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IceDefence
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Hi this Solcion is not gonna be buyable until tis summer so there are no comments yet , Sorry
But I would like to play with it
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lildudejds
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im predicting it won't be anything that special.
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AMonteiro
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let's see if any top player will use this... I don't think so
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Jolan
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Butterfly new marketing is "ion..." Ishlion + solcion = budget explosion.
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teonk
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You can get Butterfly Solcion from Iruiru.com now even though it does not appears in the English version of the website. You can email them to say you want to order it and they will tell you what to do.
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IceDefence
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Is there any place where you can get SOLCION other than www.iruiru.com
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Wawaicetea123
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its gonna have a reallly strong glue effect its density is 28 !!!!!
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teonk
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According to an article in Butterfly Japanese edtion website, Solcion is supposed to have a very soft sponge, and is designed for non-professional players to make it easier to play. Because it is soft, it is more mistake tolerant than more powerful sponges like bryce, etc.
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teonk
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I have ordered 2 sheets of Solcion from iruiru for 4000 JPY each.
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Ksix
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4k yen each? thats how much bryce is...those things better be good... write a review after you get them :)
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yogi_bear
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another overpriced overhyped rubber thats gonna be bought by thousands of people thinking they will become top 100
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KongLinghuiSP
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now yogi_bear, be nice....people prefer expensive equipment over cheap chinese one for a lot of reasons.
i, for example, use sriver. i can find a lot of cheap chinese rubbers that plays like sriver, but the fact is chinese rubbers are not as consistent as a lot of more expensive brands. a sheet can be very different to the next.
i have tried a lot of rubbers in my days, i used mostly butterfly, bryce, Catapult, Sriver....you named it, i have tried it. i have yet found the quality of these rubbers differs, what you buy is what you get. i would rather pay a little extra for that.
of course, some people with no problem with money can buy whatever the hell they want and think that would make them a better player. someday, those people will learn that skill, not equipment is what they need.
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yogi_bear
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KLSP, im not referring to chinese rubbers.. all im saying is that butterfly rubbers are way overpriced and there are lots of euro and jap rubbers with the same level of performance but a lot cheaper
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Wawaicetea123
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can iruiru ship to usa or can anyone help me get the timo bol spirit cs penhold?
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Jolan
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Agree ! Even butterfly can contest butterfly. I still believe that a sheet of sriver EL heavily glued isn't noticeabily slower than a sheet of bryce glued. At least for us, mortals. A pro would make the difference but not me.
That said I also understand KLSP who sticks to BTY products due to their very consistent quality. And who knows, Solcion might really be the solution...?
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non3
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I disagree with the statement that heavily glued EL isn't noticeably slower than a comparably glued up bryce. I think anyone who swings hard, regardless of level (to an extent) can tell that the bryce is noticeably faster.
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ttman
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actually max el really glued up compared to 2.1 bryce really glued up there is not much of a difference
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Wawaicetea123
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you tellem scotty
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creeder06
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i agree with who ever said that butterfly stuff is over priced it is the nike of TT you are paying more for the name and because they sponsor more people
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if table tennis is to sports, what star wars is to movies, then you must be chewbacca.
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Madbrazilian
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you play with the sheets of solcion yet? How is it?
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teonk
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I have received 2 sheets of Solcion at home, but I am currently overseas and will not be able to try them till next week. |
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Wawaicetea123
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be sure ot write a reveiw
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kim_taek_soo
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One of my freind's uncles is a product tester for butterfly. Hes already got some Solcion. Butterfly's theory for this rubber is to help developing players learn to use jap rubber without speedglue. Its soft enough for controll shots, and it's basically just a glorified controll rubber at an outrageous price. Whoever it was that said that butterfly is the nike of table tennis, i agree, most of their products are overpriced and you really, really, should not buy butterfly products until you've played with a $16 sheet of chinese rubber for a while. Don't assume that because its the most expensive that it will be the best. Just assume that it will be more consistent in quality. |
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teonk
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I tried out the Solcion today on a Carbo Balsa x5 blade. It is a rubber with extremely good control. Helps to have more rallies.It may not have the killing power of Bryce, but makes playing table tennis more enjoyable. I will use solcion from now on since I am not a professinal, but merely enjoyes playing table tennis.
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mafia
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Someone in Taiwan forum already tried this rubber and given good comment. He also provided with some pic, here is the link to the pic |
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murrayblhrc
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does anyone know any other websites where I can buy solcion. I live in the U.S. and have tried www.iruiru.com, but my card would not process for some reason, although it is working fine. thanks
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Ksix
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As far as I know it is only out in asia and all other sites I know of that have it are in japanese. You'll have to wait or figure out a way to get your credit card working @ iru...btw I highly doubt it is worth the price... |
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teonk
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Solcion has a very soft sponge (28). Bryce is 34 while Sriver is 38. At the same time it has Butterfly High Tension technology in the rubber and sponge, which gives it reasonable power. The soft sponge improves the control and makes playing less error prone.
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