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Donic BlueFire M2 and M3 review |
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Lestat
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I can play just as well with both, what I'm talking about is a situation where the ball goes way out of its projected trajectory for a given stroke, give or take a small technical miscalculation from my part. It doesn't happen constantly but when it does, it leaves me standing there in disbelief. Have you had M2 on your main setup? If not, I suppose you can't really relate. MX-P is an excellent rubber but these days I only rank rubbers as playable or not playable, and suitable or not suitable for a certain blade. Other than that they all have their strengths and weaknesses. So, if it's playable and suitable, I can get used to it. MX-P falls short at imparting spin on slow strokes, but that is most apparent when compared to Tenergy. In addition to that, it's a very fast rubber - and I mean pro-level fast, regardless if one can play with it or not. It compensates with outstanding control but that is not to say it's better than M2 at a non-pro level. Both are playable rubbers, I happen to like how M2 pairs with my Viscaria.
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slevin
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Perhaps I've misunderstood you, but: Ball flying up while looping does not seem to be a sign of bottoming out. In fact, going a step down in sponge thickness could be a recommended cure to such a symptom.
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seguso
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m2 has a lot of catapult, counterlooping at the table is difficult. you could try m3 on fh. I too might give it a try.
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pg5x - mxd fh & bh - 2015 video
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Lestat
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Yeah, it's not the slow opening loop but the hard (semi) kill loop. That requires double the impact of a slow loop, as you have to overcome heavy underspin from your previous loop + impart forward thrust. Occasionally it doesn't want to dip and I don't make errors of that magnitude on my fh. It should maybe go past the table but not that high. MX-P for instance is a lot more linear in that sense. Never mind, I'll keep an eye on it.
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seguso
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I tried m3 max on fh yesterday, on clipper wood. Previously I was using m2 2.0.
on that blade, m3 is great for counterloop, but has problems lifting backspin. Too much dwell time. Also the power to finish is barely enough. And there is a generalized spin loss (except in counterloop) with respect to m2. I think the reason is that m3 on that blade is just too soft and has too much dwell time; and this is killing spin for some reason. The backspin lifting problem, and the spin loss, might disappear with 2.0, but then I am skeptical about the power. It could work though. I think with a harder blade, such as clipper CR, m3 could be a very good choice on fh. In fact I tried a few loops with m3 on cr, and the dwell time was just right (whereas m2 had too little dwell). So if you use a hard and fast blade, try m3, but not max. Edited by seguso - 06/06/2013 at 3:20am |
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LUCKYLOOP
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player87
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Could you please advise which rubber to put on Maze
I am thinking of For FH Donic Bluefire M2 Nittaku Flyat sping Donic baracuda and BH Donic s2 or baracuda Nittaku Flyat soft xiom vega euro df |
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tmham
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Baracuda is great for both BH and FH if you want control on spinny opening loops and flicks. Decent amount of speed for both wings could allow you to kill from mid-far distance on FH, but i suspect you would need solid BH technique to play away from the table with BH. I don't find it ideal for blocking on my FH but it could just be my technique, I find rubbers like MXP and Bluefire M1 great for active/passive blocks my FH and BH.
I currently have baracuda on my ALC blade (like maze) for FH, plays well for me, but everyone is different (I'm somewhat more backhand oriented) Edited by tmham - 07/03/2016 at 6:30pm |
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player87
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Thank you for your advise. As for BH power loops it is not about me. I am just mastering bh slow loops over the table. Need more control in close to the table game. As for forehand I would like to have a possibility to easily start attacking on back spin chops both just low speed top spin and ability to kill from short distance. Bluefire M1 will be too fast for me. I am more of looping player instead of drives and active blocks. Btw how baracuda is playing with new plastic balls? Also very interested in new Nittaku Flyatt spin for forehand and Nittaku Flyatt soft for backhand. Anybody played? |
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7homuz
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Opened a brand new sheet of M2, applied LKT water based glue on the blade and rubber, let it dry, but.... it's been an hour and it's still gooey on the M2 sponge. The glue worked okay on other rubbers I've glued lately, has anyone had this problem with gluing the M2? I'm guessing there might be a layer of oil or booster on the sponge that is not compatible with the glue?
Haven't put it on the blade yet because it just doesn't feel right.
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Blade:Darker 7P-2A
Forehand: Donic Bluefire M2 MAX Backhand: Palio CK531A 0.6 |
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bard romance
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damn, this exact thing happened to me with both m1 and m2. i thought it was my glue...glad i switched away from bluefire.
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SmackDAT
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Wow that's weird - I found with M1/M2 the sponge soaks a lot of glue - keep stroking the glue into the sponge and make sure the pores absorb all of the glue (ideally with the first layer), and then put another layer over that and it should be fine.
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7homuz
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Had it under the fan for 4 hours yesterday and was still super gooey. Cleaned it all off, let it dry for a few hours, and retried. Still super gooey. Cleaned it all off again and used a cleaner (unfortunately some VOC... luckily I won't be playing any contests within the next two months), cleaned off all the glue extremely thoroughly and let it sit overnight. This morning the sponge was clean, no expansion, no tack, wiped it down with some more towels just in case. Applied two layers of glue, much better but still detecting a tiny bit of gooey-ness i.e. won't completely set. Yesterday I tried the glue on another rubber again just to be sure it's not the glue and it glued fine. Anyway, I'm going to wait to see if it gets a bit better and see if it can stick to the blade to play. Hopefully it's okay as the goo is very very mild this time around, and I really don't want to put any more cleaners in contact with the sponge again as it's surely not going to do the sponge any good.
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Blade:Darker 7P-2A
Forehand: Donic Bluefire M2 MAX Backhand: Palio CK531A 0.6 |
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7homuz
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Believe it or not the glue is becoming more gooey. what... the... heck.... should have stayed with Tenergy :P
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Blade:Darker 7P-2A
Forehand: Donic Bluefire M2 MAX Backhand: Palio CK531A 0.6 |
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